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US Government lawyers told federal judges that the bush can send the military into any US neighborhood, capture an American citizen and hold him in prison without charge, indefinitely. No Habeas Corpus! as long as the president can detain anyone he wants,

by My Name <no@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 25, 2008 at 07:52 AM

The Christian Science Monitor   May 24, 12:13 PM EDT
US residents in military brigs? Govt says it's war 
By MATT APUZZO Associated Press Writer

WA****NGTON (AP) -- If his cell were at Guantanamo Bay, the 
prisoner would be just one of hundreds of suspected terrorists 
detained offshore, where the U.S. says the Constitution does 
not apply.

But Ali Saleh Kahlah al-Marri is a U.S. resident being held in 
a South Carolina military brig; he is the only enemy combatant 
held on U.S. soil. That makes his case very different.

Al-Marri's capture six years ago might be the Bush 
administration's biggest domestic counterterrorism success 
story. Authorities say he was an al-Qaida sleeper agent living 
in middle America, researching poisonous g***** and plotting a 
cyberattack.

To justify holding him, the government claimed a broad 
interpretation of the president's wartime powers, one that 
goes beyond warrantless wiretapping or monitoring banking 
transactions. Government lawyers told federal judges that the 
president can send the military into any U.S. neighborhood, 
capture a citizen and hold him in prison without charge, 
indefinitely.

There is little middle ground between the two sides in al-
Marri's case, which is before a federal appeals court in 
Virginia. The government says the president needs this power 
to keep the nation safe. Al-Marri's lawyers say that as long 
as the president can detain anyone he wants, nobody is safe.

---

A Qatari national, al-Marri came to the U.S. with his wife and 
five children on Sept. 10, 2001 - one day before the terrorist 
attacks in New York and Wa****ngton. He arrived on a student 
visa seeking a master's degree in computer science from 
Bradley University, a small private school in Peoria, Ill.

The government says he had other plans.

According to court do***ents citing multiple intelligence 
sources, al-Marri spent months in al-Qaida training camps 
during the late 1990s and was schooled in the science of 
poisons. The summer before al-Marri left for the United 
States, he allegedly met with Osama bin Laden and Sept. 11 
mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. The two al-Qaida leaders 
decided al-Marri would make a perfect sleeper agent and rushed 
him into the U.S. before Sept. 11, the government says.

A computer specialist, al-Marri was ordered to wreak havoc on 
the U.S. banking system and serve as a liaison for other al-
Qaida operatives entering this country, according to a court 
do***ent filed by Jeffrey Rapp, a senior member of the Defense 
Intelligence Agency.

According to Rapp, al-Marri received up to $13,000 for his 
trip, plus money to buy a laptop, courtesy of Mustafa Ahmad 
al-Hawsawi, who is suspected of helping finance the Sept. 11 
attacks.

A week after the attacks, Congress unanimously passed the 
Authorization for Use of Military Force. It gave President 
Bush the power to "use all necessary and appropriate force" 
against anyone involved in planning, aiding or carrying out 
the attacks.

The FBI interviewed al-Marri that October and arrested him in 
December as part of the Sept. 11 investigation. He rarely had 
been attending cl***** and was failing in school, the 
government said.

When investigators looked through his computer files, they 
found information on industrial chemical suppliers, sermons by 
bin Laden, how-to guides for making hydrogen cyanide and 
information about chemicals labeled "immediately dangerous to 
life or health," according to Rapp's court filing. Phone calls 
and e-mails linked al-Marri to senior al-Qaida leaders.

In early 2003, he was indicted on charges of credit card fraud 
and lying to the FBI. Like anyone else in the country, he had 
constitutional rights. He could question government witnesses, 
refuse to testify and retain a lawyer.

On June 23, 2003, Bush declared al-Marri an enemy combatant, 
which stripped him of those rights. Bush wrote that al-Marri 
possessed intelligence vital to protect national security. In 
his jail cell in Peoria, however, he could refuse to speak 
with investigators.

A military brig allowed more options. Free from the 
constraints of civilian law, the military could interrogate 
al-Marri without a lawyer, detain him without charge and hold 
him indefinitely. Courts have agreed the president has wide 
latitude to imprison people captured overseas or caught 
fighting against the U.S. That is what the prison at 
Guantanamo Bay in Cuba is for.

But al-Marri was not in Guantanamo Bay.

"The president is not a king and cannot lock people up forever 
in the United States based on his say-so," said Jonathan 
Hafetz, a lawyer who represents al-Marri and other detainees. 
"Today it's Mr. al-Marri. Tomorrow it could be you, a member 
of your family, someone you know. Once you allow the president 
to lock people up for years or even life without trial, 
there's no going back."

Glenn Sulmasy, a national security fellow at Harvard, said the 
issue comes down to whether the nation is at war. Soldiers 
would not need warrants to launch a strike against invading 
troops. So would they need a warrant to raid an al-Qaida safe 
house in a U.S. suburb?

Sulmasy says no. That's how Congress wrote the bill and "if 
they feel concerned about civil liberties, they can tighten up 
the language," he said.

That would require the politically risky move of pu****ng 
legislation to make it harder for the president to detain 
suspected terrorists inside the U.S.

Al-Marri is not the first prisoner who did not fit neatly into 
the definition of enemy combatant.

Two U.S. citizens, Yaser Esam Hamdi and Jose Padilla, were 
held at the same brig as al-Marri. But there are differences. 
Hamdi was captured on an Afghanistan battlefield. Padilla, 
too, fought alongside the Taliban before his capture in the 
United States.

By comparison, al-Marri had not been on the battlefield. He 
was lawfully living in the United States. That raises new 
questions.

Did Congress really intend to give the president the authority 
to lock up suspected terrorists overseas but not those living 
here?

If another Sept. 11-like plot was discovered, could the 
military imprison the would-be hijackers before they stepped 
onto the planes?

Is a foreign battlefield really necessary in a conflict that 
turned downtown Manhattan into ground zero?

Also, if enemy combatants can be detained in the U.S., how 
long can they be held without charge? Without lawyers? Without 
access to the outside world? Forever?

These questions play to two of the biggest fears that have 
dominated public policy debate since Sept. 11: the fear of 
another terrorist attack and the fear the government will use 
that threat to crack down on civil liberties.

"If he is taken to a civilian court in the United States and 
it's been proved he is guilty and it's been proved there's 
evidence to show that he's guilty, you know, he deserves what 
he gets," his brother, Mohammed al-Marri, said in a telephone 
interview Friday from his home in Saudi Arabia. "But he's just 
been taken there with no court, no nothing. That's shame on 
the United States."

Courts have gone back and forth on al-Marri's case as it 
worked its way through the system. The last decision, a 2-1 
ruling by a 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals panel, found 
that the president had crossed the line and al-Marri must be 
returned to the civilian court system. Anything else would 
"alter the constitutional foundations of our Republic," the 
judges said.

The full appeals court is reviewing that decision and a ruling 
is expected soon. During arguments last year, government 
lawyers said the courts should give great deference to the 
president when the nation is at war.

"What you assert is the power of the military to seize a 
person in the United States, including an American citizen, on 
suspicion of being an enemy combatant?" Judge William B. 
Traxler asked.

"Yes, your honor," Justice Department lawyer Gregory Garre 
replied.

The court seemed torn.

One judge questioned why there was such anxiety over the 
policy. After all, there have been no mass roundups of 
citizens and no indications the White House is coming for 
innocent Americans next.

Another judge said the question is not whether the president 
was generous in his use of power; it is whether the power is 
constitutional.

Whatever the decision, the case seems destined for the Supreme 
Court. In the meantime, the first military trials are set to 
begin soon against detainees at Guantanamo Bay. Al-Marri may 
get one, too. Or he may get put back into the civilian court 
system. For now, he waits.

---

On the Net:

Do***ents and information from al-Marri's defense team: 
http://tinyurl.com/6kp58o

http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/ENEMY_COMBATANT?
SITE=MABOC&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2008-05-24-12-
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