Re: Thumbs Up for Expelled

"Pink Freud" <somewhere@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "Gabriel" <gabriel_baptist@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> On 22 Jul 2008 19:17:03 GMT, Enkidu <fox_rgfszx@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> : Gabriel <gabriel_baptist@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> : > "Rat" and "clearly not a rat" is an obvious concept, and one
>> : > where molecules to man evolutionists claim rats came from
>> : > populations of animals, over generations, that were clearly not
>> : > rats.
>> : >
>> : > But the fact is, such a belief (of any animal) has never once
>> : > been observed in the entire recorded history of the human race,
>> : > such a belief is not testable, and such a belief is not
>> : > verifiable. It's not science; just a belief.
>> :
>> : Not one human has ever seen pluto. Not one. All we've seen are fuzzy
>> : spots that seem to move.
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>> Which is what we call Pluto. Not sure why you want to say just
>> because we see it as a fuzzy spot that equates to it not being
>> observed.
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>> : And even if we grant that there is really
>> : something out there where scientists say Pluto is, we have not seen
it
>> : complete a single orbit in the entire recorded history of the human 
>> race.
>>
>> We have seen planets and moons perform orbits. Knowing that an
>> orbit is possible, and assuming a planet is in orbit, we can
>> calculate the elliptical path of an orbit. Although Pluto's orbit
>> has been shown to be quite different compared to other planets.
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> We have seen animals mutate over generations. Knowing that a mutation is

> possible, and assuming animals are mutating, we can logically derive a 
> theory that explains the diversity of species currently occupying the 
> Earth. A theory which has never been disproved, which can make testable 
> predictions (and frequently does), which has survived for 150-years. For

> 150 years it has weathered a continual barrage of both legitimate
testing 
> from real scientists doing real work, and whining from deluded religious

> folk who can't make evolution by natural selection fit in with their 
> little bronze-age superstition manual.
>
> Given that your email address begins "gabriel_baptist", I'd tentatively 
> suggest that your attempts todiscredit TOE so far are based, not on any 
> sort of scientific argument, but that you happen to fall into the second

> category mentioned above.
>
> I'd suggest you read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Species
> It points out that there are several definitions of what constitutes a 
> "species", but that, at its heart, a "species" is "a basic unit of 
> biological classification". It is a unit of measurement, nothing more.
It 
> effectively measures levels of mutation. The very definition of
"species" 
> points out the holes in your arguments. As does the fact that in this 
> thread you haven't once tried to define the term "species" in terms of 
> anything more complicated than "rat" and "clearly not a rat".
>
> I'd also suggest you read this: 
> http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/speciation.html
> It provides specific examples of speciation.
>
> By the way, saying "It has never been directly observed" and using this
as 
> some kind of argument against evolution is entirely retarded.
> We've tried to show you your logical fallacy by applying it to other 
> things which obviously happened which could not and have not been
directly 
> observed. You seem unable to grasp this. Do you believe that continental

> drift happened? Ice ages? The dinosaurs? None of these things have been 
> directly observed. The argument means NOTHING. You don't *actually see* 
> your fingernails growing. Maybe the fingernail pixie glues extra lengths

> on when you are asleep?
>
> -- 
>

<crickets>

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