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9-11 Pentagon evidence will bring down the Oligarcy

by "Dick Eastman" <de1949@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 25, 2004 at 10:53 PM

Jim Hoffman praises David Griffin book  for ignoring Pentagon small-plane
evidence thereby giving 9-11truth movement needed credibility, avoiding
(eastmanish) "over-reaching" conclusions, going "all the way" into "the
core
physical evidence issues" of the Pentagon attack which "core," according
to
Hoffman and Griffin,  totally excludes all of the Pentagon evidence
pointing
to the small-plane conclusion.

Would someone tell me why Griffin did not interview me about the Pentagon,
why he has never written me or responded to my evidence mailings to him
over
the last two years?

Why does Hoffman not carry the small-plane evidence?

Either Hoffman has reason for endorsing the blacklisting and slandering
this
evidence or he does not.

How about it Jim  --  is the small-plane finding faultily derived from the
evidence?  Why isn't the Pentagon evidence establi****ng the small-plane
attack part of the "core" of physical evidence issues.

I'd really like to know, Jim.

Yes, Jim  --  as you say,  one the real evidence is purged from the "core"
then people like Amy will venture to discuss the harmless jumble that is
left over  --  so the wheels will turn at last, although the vehicle will
be
up on blocks and going nowhere fast.

Dick Eastman

Yakima



From: "jim hoffman" <j_hoffman@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: May 21, 2004 6:30:11 AM GMT+07:00


I think David Griffin's book is excellent, and that an interview
with him on DN could be a big breakthrough in waking up so many
people who continue to be led down the garden path by Larry Bensky,
David Corn, etc.  First I'll summarize why I like the book and
second why I think this is an im****tant opening.

The book is sober, well-organized, and very well-sourced.
Griffin avoids over-reaching conclusions, arguing points carefully,
and yet 'goes all the way' into the core physical evidence issues
of the WTC demolition and Pentagon attack.  The biggest issue he
doesn't take on directly is the hijacker myth -- though even then
he points out the incompetence of the alleged hijackers of F77.
I think there is a reason he avoids that issue and that topics
like the WTC demolition don't jump out in the TOC -- I think he
designed the book to bring around readers who are conditioned to
reject such 'outlandish ideas'.  The title and his whole approach is
questioning rather than assertive, and the chapters arrive at core
physical evidence issues from an indirect route -- like getting into
the demolitions by starting with the story of Flights 11 and 175.

I also know that when David Griffin was interviewed on Dennis Bernstein's
Flashpoints, he listed a series of unanswered questions that I think
would be difficult to improve on.

I think this book goes a long way to giving our movement what it needs
most -- credibility.  Things that the book doesn't do -- like connecting
dots about criminality beyond the Bush Administration -- will be easier
for others to do with the opening his book affords.   It's already well
on its way to being the most influential book on 9/11/01 to date.

I don't think that Amy Goodman's spiking of 9/11/01 research and findings
to date means that anything she does in the future is tainted, nor that
she could spin a David Griffin interview to make it useless.
There are a number of theories about Amy's position re 9/11/01 to date.
Two of them are:

(1) She is afraid to cover the truth of 9/11/01 for fear of retribution,
     from defunding to things more sinister.

(2) She is afraid to do so because she is afraid it will destroy
     her hard-won credibility.

The dynamics behind both of these will change over time.
As time p*****, more people are willing to look at and discuss the attack
without fear.  In regard to (1) The more extensive the body of work
exposing the attack grows, the less risky it is for a journalist to do
honest re****ting on it.  In regard to (2) I think we are approaching
a turning point where questioning the official story of the attack
will become fa****onable among the standard-bearers of the left.
Griffin, whose careful, well-reasoned approach is much more difficult
for the naysayers to assail, may be the door to credible questioning
of the attack that Amy has been waiting for.

-Jim

========================

Yes, Jim  --  as you say,  one the real evidence is purged from the "core"
then people like Amy will venture to discuss the harmless jumble that
is left over  --  so the wheels will turn at last, although the vehicle
will
be up on blocks and going nowhere fast.

Dick Eastman

An allegory about using the news (and our ac***ulated knowledge of 9-11)
by Dick Eastman

Suppose there was a mine, not of gold or diamonds, but buried puzzle
pieces.
Call this mine the "9-11 Answers mine."
Now suppose that miners in this mine  -- called 9-11 investigators  -- 
are
digging for puzzle pieces --  called  "9-11 evidence" -- in order to
obtain
"wealth" (the solution to identifying what is really ruining the world)
are
proceeding in this way:

When they find a puzzle piece they  blow horns and uncork champaign and
then
toss the finding over their should and after discussing that piece and
what
it means they toss that piece over their shoulders and resume  digging for
additional pieces, which when they find they once again examine and
discuss
and speculate about the significance of the new piece and toss it over
their
shoulder and resume digging.  The keep doing this piece after piece,
finding
one, discussing that one as possibly "the answer" and then tossing it over
their shoulder and resuming their digging digging.

Did I mention the multitude of people in the mine who are not digging, but
are just standing around watching?  These spectators at first were looking
with expectancy at those digging for puzzle pieces, but all they ever see
is
another puzzle piece found, lots of discussion and speculation connected
with it and then the piece thrown over the shoulders of the miners and
then
forgotten.  Now some of these spectators are truly interested int he
question of what is really ruining the world and some could be made
interested if significant findings were made and agreed upon that really
did
show what was ruining the world, and, yes, there were some spectators too
who were actually secretly affiliated with that that that is really
ruining
the world and these latter, knowing quite well that it is they who are
ruining the world and enjoying doing so, constantly ridicule the
significance of each new puzzle piece -- in fact tell the miners that they
have not yet dug up the smoking gun and too keep trying etc.  knowing
perfectly well that the proceedure of continually digging for puzzle
pieces
and throwing them over your shoulder and forgetting about them represents
no
threat to what is ruining the world which of course suits them fine.  Of
course with each new puzzle piece that determines nothing interest and
hope
of the spectators  seeking a solution to determining and proving what is
ruining the world fades, they begin concluding that nothing will ever be
proven.  Many miners simply quit.  Others just focused harding on digging
for new pieces despite the dimini****ng returns.

Now I have not yet mentioned that there  was one small group of miners who
sometimes thought about how the puzzle that had been found and tossed as
soon as they were discovered not to be bona fide smoking guns.  These
miners
were more than usually curious about how the various pieces that had been
found might actually  fit together.  Some of these would look at a puzzle
piece that had just been found and was still a hot topic of discussion and
they would wonder if this particular shape might just have fitted with the
shape of another piece they remember digging up a while back.  Once in a
while, one of these miners would actually turn around to the discard pile
of
puzzle pieces and actually pick one  up and try to fit the new piece with
a
piece that had already been found and discarded.  No one paid any
attention
to these of course, except to notice that their output of finding puzzle
pieces had been cut way down because they have been wasting their time
with
unim****tant stuff that everyone already knows is not "smoking gun
evidence"
(the spectators affiliated with what is ruining the world would be the
ones
to say this, although others would say it too.)  Old pieces are boring,
especially if you are interested in entertaining people with new
discoveries, especially if you somehow are being paid for finding novelty
and selling novelty (which is not the same as discovering what is ruining
the world for the good of everyone in the world.)  It was also not good
for
those who were affiliated with that which was ruining the world and were
paid for defending the status quo by discouraging people doing what might
lead to discovery and proof of what is ruining the world.

Damn, no one is going to read this even this far.  Better cut to the punch
line:

There is such a thing as too much information. There is dimini****ng
returns
that come from gathering more  and more evidence while never doing the
mundane work of looking over the old information that we already have and
seeing what it all adds up to, what big picture is shown  -- because a lot
can be told about a puzzle picture even before the last piece is found and
fitted into place  -- you can tell whether it is a picture of  buildings
or
airplanes or close-ups of people or countryside or kittens etc.

News is worthless without integration with what is already known.

The 9-11 case has been solved event though not all puzzle pieces have been
found.  The evidence in the case of the attack on the Pentagon is not, we
know know, the picture of the kitten we were told it was.

Miners have indeed already discovered and proven , from the puzzle pieces
already found, what is ruining the world.

Here is the assembly of  pieces of the puzzle that establish conclusively
that the attack on the Pentagon was an inside-job false-flag black-op
operation involving attacking jet fighter, a missile, distraction planes,
and a Boeing that overflew the Pentagon rather than cra****ng into it.  If
you get this information and act on its implications by telling people the
truth about what you now know  is really ruining the world we can, no
joke,
save the world for humanity.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TRUTHBAZOOKA/message/5

http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/911/Eastman/m18h05.html

Dick Eastman
Yakima, Wa****ngton


The  Last Word on the 9-11 Commission

Without 9-11 Investigators' Input its Conclusions are but Uninformed
Opinion

by Dick Eastman
Citizen investigator of 9-11

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----



The Commission -- originally planned to be headed by Henry Kissinger who
once said, "It is not a matter of what is true that counts, but a matter
of
what is perceived to be true." -- has never  acknowledged publically the
existence of  citizens with photographic evidence they claim establishes
that 9-11 to have been frame-up.

Al Felzenberg  has been the gatekeeper and triage of all information
directed to the Committee  -- note the Jewish name and realize that the
Bush
administration would not select one of the 45 percent of Jews who oppose
the
current wars of conquest against Moslem nations -- must be held
accountable
for active obstruction of justice, for assisting in a coverup of  evidence
that fingers the true perpetrators.

The Commission, I conclude, and I am confident future impartial history
will
bear me out, has had only two objectives from the beginning:

1.  To consumate the cover-up; and

2. To provide contrived rationale for consolidation of police power into a
Stalinist "NVKD"-type police state, unanswerable to anyone, the operations
and objectives of which are unknown to anyone, and the control of which
remains in the hands of America's power-elite Oligarcy, the proven
perpetrators of 9-11.

Dick Eastman
223 S. 64th Ave.
Yakima, Wa****ngton 98908

---

 Are you also uninformed about the evidence proving 9-11 was a frame-up?
Here is the critical information needed to derive an informed opinion of
what really happened on September 11, 2001:

Consider what  citizen investigators have uncovered regarding the alleged
"attack" on the Pentagon:


1. Pentagon security camera shows
    a.  Too short a plane
    b.  Smoke trail of a missile being fired
    c.  White-hot flash explosion consistent with a missile warhead

2. Photos show wrong crash imprint in the wall

3. Photos show and wrong flash-powder burn darkening the wall

4. Downed lampposts and witnesses each identified a different
     approach path to the Pentagon, the Boeing's and the killer jet's

5. Wrong kind of debris

6. Single piece of right kind of debris shown to have been
    found on the opposite side of the approach path from
    the side of the plane where that particular piece had
    to have come from.

7. Witnesses also

    a. heard a missile

    b. heard a sonic boom prior to blast

    c. smelled burning chordite after the blast

    d. saw a radar blip behaving like a jet-fighter blip

 8. No photos of wreckage from inside consistent with the crash

 9. Evidence of only one engine and one seat , a pilots seat.

10. A distraction plane, ur engine plane making dives over D.C.
    both photographed, videotaped and shown on BBC, and
    re****ted (erroneously) by many wintesses as the actual plane
   "diving at an irrecoverable angle)

11.  The attack was made almost horizontally into the first-floor
      level -- consistent with a countour-hugging jet-fighter attack

12. Normal rescuers were prevented from entering the building
   while only certain people, including Rumsfeld himself, conducted
   (screened) victims from the building

13. Rumsfeld had recently been given exclusive power to
  OK air interceptions -- and yet he was in his office the whole
  time the twin towers were hit, and when the Pentagon was
  hit  he went to oversee "rescue" instead of going to the situation
  room where his interception authority could be given  -- he
  arrived at the situation room at about the time the Pennsylvania
  plane (backup for the Pentagon) was finally shot down.

14. The various drills and practices for an air attack on the Pentagon
   including some kind of simulation on 9-11-01 itself, coupled with
   denials that such an attack had been considered possible.

15. Impossible stories by, for example,  John Judge (regarding
     his amazing stewardess friend who claims to have seen the
     Boeing inside the hole, recognized the plane as the one she
     always flew, recongized her stewardess friend as a victim by
     a photo of her severed arm with the matching "friend****p
     bracelett" they both wore;  that she was passing out
     doughnuts and coffee to the rescue workers with the salvation
     army when the salvation army was nowhere in evidence at the
     scene --  John Judge who is a   professional JFK conspiracy
     theory debunker and discloses that this same stewardess
   &nb sp; friend is also a JFK theory investigator, the same
    John Judge who launched the phony  "People's Investigation
    of   9-11 with a  press conference by stating that the Pentagon
    attack is not something responsible investigators should bother
    investigating  etc. since we "know" the Boeing hit the Pentagon
    and don't want to be a laughing stock etc. -- the People's
    investigation that never once reviewed any of the evidence
    packages I posted  to them --  the same John Judge who to this
    day refuses to debate Dick Eastman on any internet forum and
    whom all --   dare I use the term -- "responsible" 9-11 investigators
    think is  a John Judge who is working for  the coverup, for
    obstruction of justice, and because he does it so badly is himself
    become  one of the proofs of  the frameup along with the known-
    only-to  himself flight attendant who works one of the flights that
    most definitely had to have been regularly monitored by
    US intelligence operatives, probably flight attendents, and
    this one just happened not to take Flight 77 that day by
    happenstance etc.  -- so how about it, Mr. Judge?

16. The deaths of only the CIA's  indepdendent intelligence
    revivals , the Offices of Naval Intelligence  personel, and
    auditors of defense spending contracts etc. alone moved
    into the "newly renovated" section that was hit -- on the side
    where most of the witnesses would be the Arlington Cemetery
    dead or people involved with driving their cars.  Naval Intelligence
    would have independently investigated 9-11 had they lived --
    the investigator that no official has yet conducted -- Wolfowitz
    sure bin Laden had done it  and ready with the solution of invading
    Afganistan on the very first day -- even as they were allegedly taken
    by complete suprise only a few hours  before that determination.


See the evidence  photos and witness testimony confirming all of the above
and further analysis in sup****t of these conclusions by respected men of
science here:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TRUTHBAZOOKA/message/5

and here

http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/911/Eastman/m18h05.html

Dick Eastman
Yakima, Wa****ngton
Every man is responsible to every other man.
 




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9-11 Pentagon evidence will bring down the Oligarcy
"Dick Eastman"   2004-05-25 22:53:49 
Re: 9-11 Pentagon evidence will bring down the Oligarcy
"meport" <jj  2004-05-26 11:13:21 
Re: 9-11 Pentagon evidence will bring down the Oligarcy
"Praetorian" &l  2004-05-26 13:47:46 
Re: 9-11 Pentagon evidence will bring down the Oligarcy
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