Answering Josef Said
Mossad involvement in 9-11
City of London Zionists -- a re****t
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Item #1: Answering Josef Said
From: "Josef Said" <phdcan2000@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: "mygroup" <khilafism@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 9:02 PM
Subject: [Terror in America 2001] "Islamophobia" and other made up words
> ... I am afraid you are living in Lah Lah land. First
> of all Islam is not the fastest growing religion. Yes
> Muslims do procreate faster but this is the nature of
> all poor and uneducated people. Secondly there are
> more Muslims leaving Islam than any other religion
> losing their followers. Please wake up and smell the
> coffee.
Josef Said is wrong. There are more converts to Islam
each year than to any other religion. Falung Gung is a
resistance movement, not a religion -- resistance to the
Totalitarian Triad Princeling , the secret allies of Israel
and of the Rockefellers and Rothschilds etc. who are
waging ruthless murderous war against the people of
the United States, without most of them even knowing
that their leader****p represent an enemy bent on
murder, plunder and resettlement of this land.
>
> Now the real reason for Islamophobia is because many
> Muslims are active terrorists. They kill people.
> Aren't you watching the news?
September 11, 2001 was a mass-murder frame-up.
Not one, but several proofs from evidence establish
this fact beyond any possibility of error. Everyone
who sees this is immediately convinced, whether they
have the courage to open their mouths about or not.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911crimefile/message/14
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pentagonconspiracy/message/71
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pentagonconspiracy/message/78
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/9-11-demonstrative-evidence-of-frameup/messages/1
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> Then we have people like you who brazenly deny the
> real cause of Islamophobia and accuse the terrorized
> people of paranoia and misunderstanding, hence adding
> more insults to the injury and give more reasons for
> people to fear Islam and consider it the religion of a
> people incapable of rational thought.
While violence cannot be condoned, it is predictable when
great injustice and misery is inflicted on a population -- as
is the case with the Palestinians, the Lebonese, the Iraqis.
In fact all Moslems have been paragons of patience and
forbearance given the extreme murderous cruelty of the
Israelis. Just consider this statement made by Ariel Sharon
himself
"I don't know something called International Principles. I vow that
I'll burn every Palestinian child (that) will be born in this area.
The Palestinian woman and child is more dangerous than the man,
because the Palestinian childs existence infers that generations will
go on, but the man causes limited danger. I vow that if I was just an
Israeli civilian and I met a Palestinian I would burn him and I would
make him suffer before killing him. With one hit I've killed 750
Palestinians (in Rafah in 1956). I wanted to encourage my soldiers by
raping Arabic girls as the Palestinian women is a slave for Jews, and
we do whatever we want to her and nobody tells us what we shall do
but we tell others what they shall do."
--Ariel Sharon, current Prime Minister, In an interview
with General Ouze Merham, 1956
> The threat of Islam does not come
> from its alleged and bogus fast rate of growth but
> from your terrorist brethrens, your holy book of
> terror and your barefaced denial.
Islam has administered better than western governments.
Compare the standard of living of India under the
Moslems to the standard of living after the British
East India (Jewish City of London owned) took over.
The Moslems built the Taj Mahal, the Jews gave them
brutal slavery and inferiority.
>
> You accuse the Westerners of being prejudiced against
> Islam and being rancorous for the defeat of the
> crusaders.
This is certainly not true, I agree. But we must remember
that the revival of leaning that ended the dark ages was
the work of Moslems (like Averoes) introducing
Greek and Roman philosophy to Europe. Look at a
clock, the 60 minute hour and the 60 second minute
are Arabic. The numerals are Arabic. Algebra would
be impossible without the zero, an Arabic invention --
the very word algebra is Arabic for an Arabic discovery.
Compare the architecture of the Moselms with that of
Europe. The Arab civilization gave us science and
universities. Jews gave us the Oedipus Complex,
the Atomic Bomb, compound interest, and the
communist revolutions.
> It is this absurd and mindless thinking
> that is frightening. What prejudice are you talking
> about when Muslims can even run for political offices
> in these so called "Christian" countries and they
> enjoy all the benefits that other citizens have?
Only whores are allowed to run for office in the
US. Take a look. the turnstyle only passes sinners.
Moslems are disqualified. Clarke, Lieberman,
Kerry are Jews (Kerry faking Catholicism to get
elected in Massachusetts)
> Compare that to the plight of the Christians and other
> minorities in Islamic countries. What rights do they
> have? ...None!
Not true. Everyone is protected against murder and
theft -- but also against the crime and ****ographic
gutter life that the Zionist super rich inflict upon the
people of "Christian" countries.
>
> You talk about the loss of crusaders? Sir, the
> "Christians" have won! They won long time ago. The
> very fact that you have left your poor and
> Islam-devastated country and have come to their doors
> to seek a better life is proof enough that they have
> won.
Listen to this Jew talking as if "Christians" are the ones
fighting the Moslems -- when in fact behaviorally
enslaved dumbed-down Americans with no religion
at all are made to murder innocent Moslems (remember,
the Zionists did 9-11) because the Zionist super rich
have set them up to do so.
Christianity in America hardly exists -- the Jews
have bought the denominations, and the result is
the "Religious Right" and the holiness of George W. Bush,
the Caligula.
> What have the Muslims won? Are they
> technologically more advanced?
They have contributed more than the Jews.
> Are they better educated?
They are better human beings.
> Are they more democratic?
I would say that the under the Taliban
the Afganistan people had the type of leader****p
and the kinds of laws they wanted.
I would say that under the two-party system,
the US has gotten ripped off of all of our wealth,
we have debt slavery, perpetual war because of
a faked attack perpetrated by the Jewish war-profiteers
and war financiers themselves and the choice of
voting for a skull and bones, war-on-terror, rich,
Zionist person with nothing but distain for the common
man, Kerry or Bush.
>Is the index of
> crime lower in Islamic countries?
Yes.
> Are they happier?
Not when Jews control the Americans like a
kid controls a Nintendo ninja to do their
killing, torturing, plundering of Moslems for
them.
> Sir, people are afraid of Islam
> because your fellow coreligionists are killing them
> not because of what happened centuries ago.
Only the duped are afraid of Islam -- those who
believe that "Muslim fundamentalists armed with
box cutters hijacked four planes and destroyed
both towers of the World Trade Center, getting
Building Number 7 as extra points; and hit the
Pentagon etc.
Josef Said himself demonstrates an unending
unshakable contempt and single-minded
assault on Moslems -- attacking them day
after day -- demonstrating the mental illness
that infects all Zionist Jews -- an illness that,
unless the rest of us faces it and curbs these
human pit bulls, will result in -- not Jewish
domination of the earth, but the ruin and
re-barbarization of the human race -- a
process already far along, thanks to the
Zionists role in the history of the last 100
or 200 years.
> Most of
> them do not even know what happened in crusades. Some
> of them are so deluded that even have issued apologies
> for the crusades.
In the Crusades the Crusaders raped and plundered -- even
Christian countries. And a crusade of children was gotten up,
where the Children were all "delivered" as slaves, by those
or organized this religious movement (involving false prophesies
that Children would free the holy land etc. -- using religion
to feed the markets of *** slavery etc.) The crusades was
where Jews first learned how to make big money by lending
money for big wars -- they've been doing it ever since.
> You are talking nonsense. .
> "Crusades" eh?... "Historic rivalry of Christianity
> against Islam"? You are so depressingly funny!
Christianity does not exist. State religion exists,
regardless of talk of separation of church and state.
Most ministers are informants and mouthpieces
for Zionism and for Israeli tourism.
>
> Mr. Iftikhar Ahmad, for your information, people in
> the West do not care anymore about Christianity,
> crusades and what happened 900 or 400 years ago.
Yes, Josf Said is right -- the Jews have killed real
Christianity in the west. Soft **** and speaking in
tongues is all we have left.
> Unlike Muslims who are stuck in the past, they are
> living in the 21st century and they have their own
> concerns.
The common concern is how to keep the Zionists
from killing decent person and setting up their
sadistic planet of horrors.
> It is not just the Europeans who are
> becoming Islamophobic. Also the Koreans, the Japanese
> and nations that had nothing to do with crusades are
> growing Islamophobic.
The Japanese know that the Jews of Wall Street and
the City of London destroyed their economy -- plundered
the Asian Tiger economies, and built up the Chinese
totalitarians. However they don't like to talk about it, for
fear of their new economic masters.
> There are many who were born
> into Islam and now are Islamophobic. We are all
> becoming Islamophobic because Islam is a religion of
> terror.
Tell us about it, Zionist. Are you familiar with the role of
Bernard Baruch in the perpetration of the wars and economic
disasters of the 20th-century? It is a topic I love to share,
but which no one seems interested in. Why not? Fear of
learning too much?
Muhammad promised to "instill terror in the
> hearts of the unbelievers". (Quran 8:12)
>Your prophet
> has succeeded. Now the world fears Islam. Your
> unwillingness to accept responsibility and blame the
> victims of paranoia makes Islam look even more
> hideous.
Jews are the only people of chronic hate, chronic paranoia,
chronic revenge plotting, chronic false-flag frame-ups.
Josef Said knows this -- which means that he is a
conscious propagandist, knowingly handing us a
line of lies, even as Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Perle, Kissinger
etc. continue the course of our destruction.
> You are the living testament that Islam is an
> insanity that if not contained it will blow up the
> world.
The next major terrorism will be like the last several --
a Mossad ****n Bet CIA MI6 false-flag mass-murder
frame-up.
>
> You accuse Jew and Christian scholars of
> misrepresenting Islam.
Hell yes.
> I am neither Jew nor Christian.
> Yet I declare that they are not misrepresenting Islam.
> I read the Quran, the Hadith and enough of the history
> of Islam to know Islam is not a religion but a
> dangerous cult, created by a controlling and sadistic
> cult leader. I have proven this point without a shadow
> of doubt. I challenge anyone to prove me wrong and I
> will remove this site with an apology. This challenge
> is four years old and I am still waiting.
Islam is a fitting response to the existence of God.
Only those whose neck in in the yoke of sin, will
find it offensive.
I answer you with Thomas Carlyles chapter on Mohammed
which you can obtain here:
http://www.mcgees.net/fragments/primary%20documents/rhetorical%20theory/Carlyle%20Heroes/prophet.htm
>
> You claim: "forcing Islam at the point of the sword
> upon conquered races is one of the most fantastically
> absurd myths that historians have ever repeated."
This is true. Jews lived in the Ottoman Empire and
before that under Arabs, and did so peacefully.
Most Jews converted to Islam of their own choice.
The majority of Jews today are not Jews at all,
but decendents from the Khazars who converted
to Judaism. They are the Talmudic crazies.
And
> you call those who say such thing liars. Tell me which
> history you read? Is Tabari good enough? How Islam
> came to Iran, Egypt, Spain or India? Millions died
> defending their courtiers against marauding Muslims -
Defending their courtiers?
How about the Jewish "Russian Revolution" -- the murder
of the Kulaks .. How about the Jewish instigation of
two world wars, the great depression, the cold war,
the Chinese communist regime, the opium wars against
China -- the biggest slaughter of all time
> 80 millions were massacred only in India.
A warlike people convert to Islam, they do not
end their warlike practices all at once.
But if you look at the Moslem countries, you
see peacefulness. Lebenon was considered
the Switzerland of the mideast -- very high level
of culture and civility there -- until the Israelis
got jealous of their new neighbor and destroyed
their country.
Are you approving of Hinduism, which the Moslems sought
to replace? How clean, how liberating is Islam after
capitivity by Hinduism -- with its caste system, its
brutal practices, horrible -- not the yoga and transcental
meditation known in the US -- but involving mutilation
and suffering -- and total slavery in this life to escape the
cycle of reincarnation etc.
Those
> wretched souls were your own ancestors. This was the
> biggest holocaust. Now you are siding with the
> murderers of your ancestors and say it is just a
> "fantastically absurd myth"? Are you trying to rewrite
> the history? Where do you think these "pure" Islamists
> get their inspiration to bomb, behead and murder
> innocent people? Isn't it all in the examples set by
> Muhammad and his explicit instructions in the Quran?
>
> Ironically, you are calling upon the non-Muslims, not
> to be prejudiced against the Muslims but at the same
> time you threaten that the "Hardening prejudice
> against Islam is creating a dis-affected underclass of
> young Muslims 'time-bombs' likely to explode into
> violence".
That's right. Americans must start refusing to
murder and torture Moslems for the Jews -- and
when they do that, there will be fewer Moslems
subject to aversive treatment that elicits aggression.
> With that kind of statement do you really
> expect people to believe Islam is a religion of peace?
War is product generated by and for usury -- Islam
forbids usury and thereby removes the largest
incentive for modern war.
> So basically what you say is that people must agree
> that Islam is a religion of peace otherwise there
> would be violence! What is deplorable in all this is
> that you think your readers are stupid.
By listening to Josef Said that Islam is evil, Americans
will be encouraged to continue killing and torturing
Moslems. This treatment will of course generate
retaliation -- people so desperate for justice that
they tie bombs to themselves in order to kill their
oppressors. Deny justice and you will see men
become violent to put things right.
>
> You are demanding the westerners to use
> "Judeo-Christian-Islamic" term when they refer to
> their civilization. Shouldn't you first go back to
> your own country of birth and demand that the Jews and
> Christians be recognized as humans before making such
> an outlandish demand?
Our culture owes nothing but misery to the Jews --
even the professionals who serve us today are
just people who have displaced gentiles who would
have done just as well if not a whole lot better. Jews
are not on the top because they are better, but
because they operate in packs to bring down the
good man so they can have his position.
> You have come to the West and
> despise everything the western civilization stands
> for. All you dream of is to destroy it and establish
> your Islamic intolerant way of life.
No. That is the Zionist agenda, not that of
Moslems. Josef Said is projecting his own
motivations upon his victims.
> And now you have
> the audacity to demand that Islam be recognized as a
> contributor to this civilization? What has been the
> contribution of Islam to the western civilization?
Everything -- the introduction of science and philosophy;
the end of dark age feudalism. So who is ignorant of
history, Josef Said? You know know a lot of killing statistic,
but you know nothing of civilization -- if you did you wouldn't
be a Zionist.
>
> You claim that "Islamic values are not only compatible
> with the western values they are almost identical." Do
> the Westerners practice polygamy, wife-beating,
> stoning, hand-chopping, flogging, beheading,
> ****oridectomy or honor-killing?
Let the Jewish dominated ****ography industry be the
answer to that, Mr. Circumcized. I am not aware that
Islam teaches people to beat their wives.
Westerners practice gas chamber, electric chair,
stabbing, gun wounds, beating to death - happens
all the time. Look at Guantanamo -- we are in
not position to talk. Not many hands need to be
chopped off, because, thanks to this law, there
is very little theft in the mideast where this
Islamic law is upheld. (I say this without advocating --
merely noting that it fulfills its deterence purpose.
> What is it that you
> find identical between the western civilization and
> the Islamic barbarity? Is democracy an Islamic value
> adopted by the Westerners? Is the Universal
> Declaration of Human Rights an Islamic concept?
Uinversal rights -- except for detainees -- except for
Palestinians -- see Sharon's statement above.
>
> You say "Western culture is in fact based on Muslim
> culture". Sir, Islam does not have a culture. What you
> mistake as Islamic culture is the culture of the
> civilized countries that Islam subdued.
Islamic culture certainly is very real and pervasive
in the mideast. It was far more civilized than
Christian Civilization or Greco-Roman Civilization
-- and certainly more so than ****ographic
Jewish domination in the 20th century, which
replaced the liberalism of the modern era.
> That culture
> is destroyed now. Is there any reference to Algebra,
> Chemistry, Astronomy, architecture, Medicine of
> philosophy and independent thoughts in the Quran?
Nor is there in the Declaration of Independence -- nevertheless
the central document of a civilization conditions all aspects
of that Civilization -- the Arab culture that generated
ALgebra, Chemistry, Astronomy, beautiful buildings,
Medicine was conditioned by Islam == as Jesus rightly
said -- by their fruits shall ye know them.
Does
> Islam encourage poetry, painting, dance or music?
All of these are dead in US culture -- just commercial
for-profit trash.
Islam does not exist to encourage these things -- but rather
to promote right relation****p of man to God and to
other men before God. IF POETRY, PAINTING,
DANCE OR MUSIC ARE ENCOURAGED, IT WILL
BE THE KINDS OF POETRY, PAINTING, DANCE
AND MUSIC THAT PROMOTES BETTER LIVES
AND A BETTER SOCIETY -- UNLIKE THOSE
WHO JUST INDULGE THE LUSTS, CATERED
BY ****OTOPIA.
> These are the foundations of any culture and Islam has
> nothing to do with them.
Paiting and dance are not foundations of any culture.
Religion is the true foundations, religon and economics.
Rap music, pronography, topless dancing etc. -- these
destroy a culture. Far better to live without them.
> Many of the exponents of
> these sciences and arts were apostates.
You just made that up. Islam in its practices is devoid
of superstition -- it permits science to flouish because
it does not cotnradict science.
The terrorism
> however, is very Islamic. Quran is full of verses that
> advocate murder, decapitation, genocide and terror. So
> you can say "Islamic terrorism" but you can't say
> "Islamic culture".
Now say something about the Talmud?
How about that Old Testament?
> Muhammad was not a prophet. He was a terrorist and a
> psychopath no better than Hitler.
Islam is not a cult of terror. You are.
Islam transforms lives. It makes all men equal
before God.
> If you are not a terrorist why call
> yourself a Muslim?
This question shows your blindness. The Moslems
are not guilty of 9-11. The terrorists do not exist.
Where is the terror? (Remember, 9-11 was a frame-up.)
> ... Once they
> come to know the real "pure" Islam, most of them will
> leave this cult. Then it would be easy to see who is a
> terrorist. This will also weaken the terrorists.
Moslems have nothing to do with terrorism -- the violence
we do get from them is an elicited response to Israeli aggression.
> Where
> do you think the terrorists get their unlimited supply
> of new recruits? The terrorists are these very average
> Muslims who heed to the call of Muhammad and rise to
> fight the disbelievers. Q.8:65,
>
> Islam is not a religion based on logics or reason. It
> is based on lies and on hypes, like the myth of "Islam
> is the fastest growing religion".
Islam is the fastest growing religion in the U.K. and in
most Eurasian countries, if not China.
But the biggest argument against Josef Said is his endless
stream of posts against the Iraqis, against the Palestinians.
That, and the fact that he must know that 9-11 was a
Jewish black-op.
>
> Please remind Mr. Ahmad to respond to this message and
> discuss this matter with your classmates. The
> renaissance of Muslim world depends on the Muslim
> youth.
>
> http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina40622.htm
One omission -- to the great contributors Freud,
Marx and Einstein -- I should add Henry Kissinger,
the man how opened up China to economic integration
with the US (china gets the investment capital, we
get the debt and unemployment and degredation of
our standard of living, our security, our freedom,
our future. Remember, the Zionists are really allies
of the Triad Princelings controlling China -- they
are running the US only as enemy infiltrators and
saboteurs -- the truth about 9-11 makes that obvious.
this truth:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911crimefile/message/14
> =====
> Josef Said
> Moderator http://groups.yahoo.com/group/khilafism
Are you Jewish and offended at the above?
Then why have you been silent in the face of this
overwhelming conclusive solid ready evidence of
the guilt of the Pentagon Neo-con Zionists in the
false-flag attack of 9-11??? What kind of monsters
are you to be silent on this when you now know the
truth -- fact is you secretly hope that Wolfowitz,
Perle, Kissinger and the rest will get away with it,
don't you??
How thankful I am for the Jews who really stand for
humanity and freedom -- the unsilent minority --
the kind who always save mankind from evils like
Zionism -- at least enough to keep humanity a going
concern.
Dick Eastman
Yakima, Wa****ngton
Every man is responsible to every other man.
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Mossad's Link to 9-11
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 08:54:40 -0700 From: Jeff Blankfort
<jblankfort@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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http://www.world-crisis.com/print_format/163_0_1_0/
British Broadsheet Links Mossad to 9/11
Meil Mackay
There was ruin and terror in Manhattan, but, over the Hudson River in New
Jersey, a handful of men were dancing. As the World Trade Centre burned
and
crumpled, the five men celebrated and filmed the worst atrocity ever
committed
on American soil as it played out before their eyes. Who do you think they
were? Palestinians? Saudis? Iraqis, even? Al-Qaeda, surely? Wrong on all
counts. They were Israelis - and at least two of them were Israeli
intelligence agents, working for Mossad, the equivalent of MI6 or the CIA.
Their discovery and arrest that morning is a matter of indisputable fact.
To
those who have investigated just what the Israelis were up to that day,
the
case raises one dreadful possibility: that Israeli intelligence had been
shadowing the al-Qaeda hijackers as they moved from the Middle East
through
Europe and into America where they trained as pilots and prepared to
suicide-bomb the symbolic heart of the United States. And the motive? To
bind
America in blood and mutual suffering to the Israeli cause.
After the attacks on New York and Wa****ngton, the former Israeli Prime
Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, was asked what the terrorist strikes would
mean
for USA-Israeli relations. He said: "It's very good." Then he corrected
himself, adding: "Well, it's not good, but it will generate immediate
sympathy
[for Israel from Americans]." If Israel's closest ally felt the collective
pain of mass civilian deaths at the hands of terrorists, then Israel would
have an unbreakable bond with the world's only hyperpower and an effective
free hand in dealing with the Palestinian terrorists who had been
murdering
its innocent civilians as the second Intifada dragged on throughout 2001.
It's not surprising that the New Jersey housewife who first spotted the
five
Israelis and their white van wants to preserve her anonymity. She's
insisted
that she only be identified as Maria. A neighbour in her apartment
building
had called her just after the first strike on the Twin Towers. Maria
grabbed
a
pair of binoculars and, like millions across the world, she watched the
horror
of the day unfold. As she gazed at the burning towers, she noticed a group
of
men kneeling on the roof of a white van in her parking lot. Here's her
recollection: "They seemed to be taking a movie. They were like happy, you
know . they didn't look shocked to me. I thought it was strange."
Maria jotted down the van's registration and called the police. The FBI
was
alerted and soon there was a state-wide all points bulletin put out for
the
apprehension of the van and its occupants. The cops traced the number,
establi****ng that it belonged to a company called Urban Moving. Police
Chief
John Schmidig said: "We got an alert to be on the lookout for a white
Chevrolet van with New Jersey registration and writing on the side. Three
individuals were seen celebrating in Liberty State Park after the impact.
They
said three people were jumping up and down."
By 4pm on the afternoon of September 11, the van was spotted near New
Jersey's
Giants stadium. A squad car pulled it over and inside were five men in
their
20s. They were hustled out of the car with guns levelled at their heads
and
handcuffed. In the car was $4700 in cash, a couple of foreign pass****ts
and
a
pair of box cutters - the concealed Stanley Knife-type blades used by the
19
hijackers who'd flown jetliners into the World Trade Centre and Pentagon
just
hours before. There were also fresh pictures of the men standing with the
smouldering wreckage of the Twin Towers in the background. One image
showed
a
hand flicking a lighter in front of the devastated buildings, like a fan
at
a
pop concert.
The driver of the van then told the arresting officers: "We are Israeli.
We
are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are
the
problem." His name was Sivan Kurzberg. The other four passengers were
Kurzberg's brother Paul, Yaron Shmuel, Oded Ellner and Omer Marmari. The
men
were dragged off to prison and transferred out of the custody of the FBI's
Criminal Division and into the hands of their Foreign Counterintelligence
Section - the bureau's anti-espionage squad.
A warrant was issued for a search of the Urban Moving premises in
Weehawken
in
New Jersey. Boxes of papers and computers were removed. The FBI questioned
the
firm's Israeli owner, Dominik Otto Suter, but when agents returned to
re-interview him a few days later, he was gone. An employee of Urban
Moving
said his co-workers had laughed about the Manhattan attacks the day they
happened. "I was in tears," the man said. "These guys were joking and that
bothered me. These guys were like, 'Now America knows what we go
through.'"
Vince Cannistraro, former chief of operations for counter-terrorism with
the
CIA, says the red flag went up among investigators when it was discovered
that
some of the Israelis' names were found in a search of the national
intelligence database. Cannistraro says many in the USA intelligence
community
believed that some of the Israelis were working for Mossad and there was
speculation over whether Urban Moving had been "set up or exploited for
the
purpose of launching an intelligence operation against radical Islamists".
This makes it clear that there was no suggestion whatsoever from within
American intelligence that the Israelis were colluding with the 9/11
hijackers
- simply that the possibility remains that they knew the attacks were
going
to
happen, but effectively did nothing to help stop them.
After the owner vanished, the offices of Urban Moving looked as if they'd
been
closed down in a big hurry. Mobile phones were littered about, the office
phones were still connected and the property of at least a dozen clients
were
stacked up in the warehouse. The owner had cleared out his family home in
New
Jersey and returned to Israel.
Two weeks after their arrest, the Israelis were still in detention, held
on
immigration charges. Then a judge ruled that they should be de****ted. But
the
CIA scuppered the deal and the five remained in custody for another two
months. Some went into solitary confinement, all underwent two polygraph
tests
and at least one underwent up to seven lie detector sessions before they
were
eventually de****ted at the end of November 2001. Paul Kurzberg refused to
take
a lie detector test for 10 weeks, but then failed it. His lawyer said he
was
reluctant to take the test as he had once worked for Israeli intelligence
in
another country.
Nevertheless, their lawyer, Ram Horvitz, dismissed the allegations as
"stupid
and ridiculous". Yet USA government sources still maintained that the
Israelis
were collecting information on the fundraising activities of groups like
Hamas
and Islamic Jihad. Mark Regev, of the Israeli embassy in Wa****ngton, would
have none of that and he said the allegations were "simply false". The men
themselves claimed they'd read about the World Trade Centre attacks on the
internet, couldn't see it from their office and went to the parking lot
for
a
better view. Their lawyers and the embassy say their ghoulish and sinister
celebrations as the Twin Towers blazed and thousands died were due to
youthful
foolishness.
Would friends of the USA jump for joy at the murder of thousands of its
citizens?
The respected New York Jewish newspaper, The Forward, re****ted in March
2002,
however, that it had received a briefing on the case of the five Israelis
from
a USA official who was regularly updated by law enforcement agencies. This
is
what he told The Forward: "The assessment was that Urban Moving Systems
was
a
front for the Mossad and operatives employed by it." He added that "the
conclusion of the FBI was that they were spying on local Arabs", but the
men
were released because they "did not know anything about 9/11".
Back in Israel, several of the men discussed what happened on an Israeli
talk
show. One of them made this remarkable comment: "The fact of the matter is
we
are coming from a country that experiences terror daily. Our purpose was
to
document the event." But how can you document an event unless you know it
is
going to happen?
We are now deep in conspiracy theory territory. But there is more than a
little circumstantial evidence to show that Mossad - whose motto is "By
way
of
deception, thou shalt do war" - was spying on Arab extremists in the USA
and
may have known that September 11 was in the offing, yet decided to
withhold
vital information from their American counterparts which could have
prevented
the terror attacks.
Following September 11, 2001, more than 60 Israelis were taken into
custody
under the Patriot Act and immigration laws. One highly placed investigator
told Carl Cameron of Fox News that there were "tie-ins" between the
Israelis
and September 11; the hint was clearly that they'd gathered intelligence
on
the planned attacks but kept it to themselves. The Fox News source refused
to
give details, saying: "Evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is
classified.
I cannot tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It's classified
information." Fox News is not noted for its condemnation of Israel; it's a
ruggedly patriotic news channel owned by Rupert Murdoch and was President
Bush's main cheerleader in the war on terror and the invasion of Iraq.
Another group of around 140 Israelis were detained prior to September 11,
2001, in the USA as part of a widespread investigation into a suspected
espionage ring run by Israel inside the USA. Government documents refer to
the
spy ring as an "organised intelligence-gathering operation" designed to
"penetrate government facilities". Most of those arrested had served in
the
Israeli armed forces - but military service is compulsory in Israel.
Nevertheless, a number had an intelligence background.
The first glimmerings of an Israeli spying exercise in the USA came to
light
in spring 2001, when the FBI sent a warning to other federal agencies
alerting
them to be wary of visitors calling themselves "Israeli art students" and
attempting to bypass security at federal buildings in order to sell
paintings.
A Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) re****t suggested the Israeli calls
"may well be an organised intelligence-gathering activity". Law
enforcement
documents say that the Israelis "targeted and penetrated military bases"
as
well as the DEA, FBI and dozens of government facilities, including secret
offices and the unlisted private homes of law enforcement and intelligence
personnel.
A number of Israelis questioned by the authorities said they were students
from Bezalel Academy of Art and Design, but Pnina Calpen, a spokeswoman
for
the Israeli school, did not recognise the names of any Israelis mentioned
as
studying there in the past 10 years. A federal re****t into the so-called
art
students said many had served in intelligence and electronic signal
intercept
units during their military service.
According to a 61-page re****t, drafted after an investigation by the DEA
and
the USA immigration service, the Israelis were organised into cells of
four
to
six people. The significance of what the Israelis were doing didn't emerge
until after September 11, 2001, when a re****t by a French intelligence
agency
noted "according to the FBI, Arab terrorists and suspected terror cells
lived
in Phoenix, Arizona, as well as in Miami and Hollywood, Florida, from
December
2000 to April 2001 in direct proximity to the Israeli spy cells".
The re****t contended that Mossad agents were spying on Mohammed Atta and
Marwan al-Shehi, two of leaders of the 9/11 hijack teams. The pair had
settled
in Hollywood, Florida, along with three other hijackers, after leaving
Hamburg
- where another Mossad team was operating close by.
Hollywood in Florida is a town of just 25,000 souls. The French
intelligence
re****t says the leader of the Mossad cell in Florida rented apartments
"right
near the apartment of Atta and al-Shehi". More than a third of the Israeli
"art students" claimed residence in Florida. Two other Israelis connected
to
the art ring showed up in Fort Lauderdale. At one time, eight of the
hijackers
lived just north of the town.
Put together, the facts do appear to indicate that Israel knew that 9/11,
or
at least a large-scale terror attack, was about to take place on American
soil, but did nothing to warn the USA. But that's not quite true. In
August
2001, the Israelis handed over a list of terrorist suspects - on it were
the
names of four of the September 11 hijackers. Significantly, however, the
warning said the terrorists were planning an attack "outside the United
States".
The Israeli embassy in Wa****ngton has dismissed claims about the spying
ring
as "simply untrue". The same denials have been issued repeatedly by the
five
Israelis seen high-fiving each other as the World Trade Centre burned in
front
of them. Their lawyer, Ram Horwitz, insisted his clients were not
intelligence
officers. Irit Stoffer, the Israeli foreign minister, said the allegations
were "completely untrue". She said the men were arrested because of "visa
violations", adding: "The FBI investigated those cases because of 9/11."
Jim Margolin, an FBI spokesman in New York, implied that the public would
never know the truth, saying: "If we found evidence of unauthorised
intelligence operations that would be classified material." Yet, Israel
has
long been known, according to USA administration sources, for "conducting
the
most aggressive espionage operations against the USA of any USA ally".
Seventeen years ago, Jonathan Pollard, a civilian working for the American
Navy, was jailed for life for passing secrets to Israel. At first, Israel
claimed Pollard was part of a rogue operation, but the government later
took
responsibility for his work.
It has always been a long-accepted agreement among allies - such as
Britain
and America or America and Israel - that neither country will jail a
"friendly
spy" nor shame the allied country for espionage. Chip Berlet, a senior
analyst
at Boston's Political Research Associates and an expert in intelligence,
says:
"It's a backdoor agreement between allies that says that if one of your
spies
gets caught and didn't do too much harm, he goes home. It goes on all the
time. The official reason is always visa violation."
What we are left with, then, is fact sullied by innuendo. Certainly, it
seems,
Israel was spying within the borders of the United States and it is
equally
certain that the targets were Islamic extremists probably linked to
September
11. But did Israel know in advance that the Twin Towers would be hit and
the
world plunged into a war without end; a war which would give Israel the
power
to strike its enemies almost without limit? That's a conspiracy theory too
far, perhaps. But the unpleasant feeling that, in this age of spin and
secrets, we do not know the full and unadulterated truth won't go away.
Maybe
we can guess, but it's for the history books to discover and decide.
Article courtesy of Scottish-based Herald Newspapers
Published by the World Crisis Web
http://www.world-crisis.com
Wednesday, November 5th, 2003 - 01:26pm GMT
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City of London Zionists -- a re****t
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=1960
Hi there Henry {Makow}.
I live in Stoke Newington in North London here in the UK. I also work in
the
Square Mile in the City of London. I recently read the article you wrote
on
the financial oligarchy in the Windsor Illuminati City of London and how
Zionism is behind the institutions such as the Bank of England and the
Cor****ation of London:
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=1885.
Everything you wrote in that article was 100% correct. The whole of London
has
rapidly become a living hell for hetero***ual men in the past 10 years or
so.
If you do not like 'gay culture' people and the media think there is
something
wrong with you.
In the Square Mile all financial business is dealt with by an Elitist
clique
of White Anglo Saxon Protestant English Aristocratic and Upper Class
people
as
well as very well-to-do Lubovitchnum Chasidic Jewish business men. There
is
a
huge cocaine and alcohol abuse problem in the Square Mile as well. Stock
Brokers are known to openly deal cocaine in such prestigious places as the
Institute of London Underwriters, (ILU), the Stock Exchange and Lloyds of
London. The intensity of homo***uality after hours in the pubs, bars and
clubs
is extraordinary.
Also, most of the Square Miles buildings are of Greco-Roman architectural
design and are adorned with Phoenixes, Molechian Owls, Serpents, Dragons,
Winged Serpents, Gargoyles, Obelisks, Pyramids, Eagles, Magen Davids and
Pentagrams. Here in the heartland of the Windsor Illuminati Scottish Rite
Freemasonry amongst the British Establishment is rife.
The City of London Police are totally corrupted and i have witnessed first
hand how corrupt and 'unlawful' their Police Constables behaviour can be.
Patriarchal or male energy is dominant and the City of London is a
phallocentric, mercantile district that oozes a clearly homo***ual and
homocentric message out into the world. It is interesting to note that the
symbol of the Cor****ation of London is a bipedal Reptilian carrying a
Saint
Georges ****eld. The ****eld has a white background with a red cross. The
white
represents male semen and the red cross represents male blood. It is
interesting also to note that Saint George slayed the Dragon, yet here the
Dragon lives and is so victorious and dominating he carries Saint Georges
own ****eld.
It therefore feels as if the Zionists and the British Establishment are
attempting to program people with the notion that Lucifer is really in
control
over goodness and morality and that greed and the love of money are the
only
truth we are supposed to live by and that homocentric occultic power will
be
used to break down the family unit and healthy, hetero***ual men and
women.
I could be wrong on some of these points but I hope you find them of some
interest. Once again, thank you for giving me such an insight into how our
world is be psychological programmed by the Elitist and Fascist madmen who
call themselves 'leaders of the free world'.
"Bob"
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