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Re: Expensive Lies: Peak Futurism (December 2007)

by Joseph Brenner <doom@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 7, 2008 at 11:32 PM

Charleson Mambo <CharlesonMambo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes:

> I came across a phrase related to what I was trying to say: "consensus
> idea of futurity".
>
> Is there a place for cyberpunk in the oncoming green "consensus idea
> of futurity" that is developing?
>
> Can you imaging ecologically conscious Case and Molly or Hiro and YT?
> Can you imaging a green Chatsubo?

There is a mural by Mona Caron in San Francisco, that depicts a
series of time slices along San Fracisco's market street.
The final panel depicts a possible future:

   http://www.monacaron.com/galleries/msr8/welcome.html

This is a dream of a utopian green city, but note that we have
apparently been through some hard times to get there.  Note the
name of the "After the Deluge Cafe", and the fact that there are
now canals running up to Market street -- it appears that the
ocean water level has risen quite a bit.

Oh: Chris Carlson's novel "After the Deluge" seems to be set
in the same future scenario:

  http://www.processedworld.com/carlsson/deluge/index.html

I have to confess I haven't gotten very far with it, though -- it
has a lot of the problems of most utopian travelogues.
 




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alias <thisareemail@[E  2007-12-15 00:58:16 
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ghost <ghost@[EMAIL PR  2007-12-17 16:17:22 
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Corp-rat <not@[EMAIL P  2007-12-19 12:19:31 
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Charleson Mambo <Charl  2007-12-19 20:42:22 
Expensive Lies: Peak Futurism (December 2007)
Charleson Mambo <Charl  2007-12-19 20:44:50 
Re: Expensive Lies: Peak Futurism (December 2007)
ghost <ghost@[EMAIL PR  2007-12-19 23:25:33 
Re: Expensive Lies: Peak Futurism (December 2007)
Charleson Mambo <Charl  2007-12-19 23:07:04 
Re: Expensive Lies: Peak Futurism (December 2007)
Charleson Mambo <Charl  2008-01-03 20:15:06 
Re: Expensive Lies: Peak Futurism (December 2007)
ghost <ghost@[EMAIL PR  2008-01-03 22:07:14 
Re: Expensive Lies: Peak Futurism (December 2007)
Joseph Brenner <doom@[  2008-03-07 23:32:35 
Re: Expensive Lies: Peak Futurism (December 2007)
TK <tad.kelson@[EMAIL   2008-01-04 22:02:31 
Re: Expensive Lies: Peak Futurism (December 2007)
ghost <ghost@[EMAIL PR  2008-01-04 23:07:40 
Re: Expensive Lies: Peak Futurism (December 2007)
"alias@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-01-05 00:57:50 
Re: Expensive Lies: Peak Futurism (December 2007)
TK <tad.kelson@[EMAIL   2008-01-05 11:52:08 
Re: Expensive Lies: Peak Futurism (December 2007)
Troubadour <gishzida@[  2008-01-09 21:38:51 

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