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Re: William Gibson - Pattern Recognition BBC Radio Play

by Robert Rumble <rbrumble@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 25, 2007 at 06:08 PM

Well, some us here check every week or so for new posts, but it's true 
that this group is pretty quiet.

Re: Pattern Recognition, I have it on the top of my "to-be-read" pile 
of fiction, but right now I'm reading a series a books on the history 
of Apple Computer (Revolution in the Valley, iCon, iWoz, The perfect 
thing) so it may be a week or two before I get around to it.

BTW, did you have any luck tracking down that French CP film?  I can't 
find it anywhere.

-B


On 2007-02-18 11:20:41 -0500, Kevin Calder <kevin.calder@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> said:

> Hello no one.
> 
> I finally got around to reading Pattern Recognition, and I thought I'd 
> share my thoughts on it with you, the mysterious semi-present 
> population of alt.cp.
> 
> [spoilers, imho, ymmv e.t.c. y'all know I'm a pomowhore and don't even 
> really believe books can be good\bad e.t.c.]
> 
> To be honest I didn't particularly enjoy it, but I didn't loathe it 
> either, and on both counts I think this is because the whole book is 
> just so damn neutral.  The main character, who's particular mutant 
> super powers and endless open questions make her seem like an unlively 
> joke from *** in the city, just seems like such a dead end.  Actually 
> she embodies nothing as sudden, dramatic or extreme as death.  She is 
> more like a sleep end. Gibson insists on emphasizing 300 times per 
> chapter just how terribly, terribly tired she is and on top of that 
> expends a surprising amount of verbiage detailing her going to bed at 
> every possible op****tunity.  This is certainly realistic, but its just 
> not that interesting and if you set her sitc-mutant power aside, it's 
> the second most remarkable thing about her. Which is a shame.  I mean, 
> a simple "The next day Casey blah blah blah..."  would have sufficed 
> for 9/10 bed times.
> 
> While Gibson lavishes almost unbearable detail on her sleep and 
> sleepyness, disappointingly he also consistently manages to dodge 
> detailing anything more interesting.  There don't seem to be any 
> interesting ideas in this book at all; rich marketing yuppies drinking 
> lattes in starbucks reading their hotmail on their ibooks and getting 
> hilariously mixed up in a big misunderstanding with the Russian mob 
> over some incredibly dubious plan to distribute some kind of dubious 
> 'high art' version of LonelyGirl, it just seemed very bland to me.
> 
> But its nicely written.  WG has certainly worked on his prose, and its 
> slick and spare and economical and all that, but I think this is part 
> of the problem.  I am pretty sure WG is the kind of author who 
> researches ideas for his novels, but once he filters this information 
> through his now very tightly focused Gibsonian 
> 'lens-o-cool-detachedness' everything get stripped down so much that 
> all you get is a few vague (though I expect he hopes profound or 
> sublime) evocations, that he only seems slightly interested in, and 
> even then only in passing.
> 
> I know you don't read Gibson for the exposition, but in the absence of 
> exploration of interesting ideas, I'd really like the novel in question 
> to be something of a page-turner.
> 
> In this respect PR reminds me of the Da Vinci Code, though sadly more 
> like the film than the book, i.e. trivial yet dull, rather than 
> (allegedly) trivial yet compelling.  Actually I didn't read the book, 
> but you've all heard about it so you get the idea.  Why is PR so damn 
> slow, and why in all that slowness does nothing very much happen?  I 
> think Gibson has become too cool to write anything exciting.  Getting 
> excited is pretty much the very opposite of cool detached indifference. 
> Maybe.
> 
> Anyone else feel the same, or totally different, or hate me and the 
> (dead)horse I rode in on, or none of the above, or just plain wish 
> *they* were dead?
> 
> 
> WG:  Can you power up your eyemac and get someone to show you what 
> usenet is so that you can tell me when you are going to reprint a 
> version of Necromancer with no spelling mistakes in it??!?!??
> 
> [Ok, that was a cheapshot.  Please disreguard.]
> 
> [end rant]
> 
> Zip,
 




 8 Posts in Topic:
William Gibson - Pattern Recognition BBC Radio Play
"jd" <jdorri  2007-02-12 07:00:11 
Re: William Gibson - Pattern Recognition BBC Radio Play
"jd" <jdorri  2007-02-12 07:03:01 
Re: William Gibson - Pattern Recognition BBC Radio Play
Kevin Calder <kevin.ca  2007-02-18 16:11:54 
Re: William Gibson - Pattern Recognition BBC Radio Play
Kevin Calder <kevin.ca  2007-02-18 16:20:41 
Re: William Gibson - Pattern Recognition BBC Radio Play
Robert Rumble <rbrumbl  2007-02-25 18:08:27 
Re: William Gibson - Pattern Recognition BBC Radio Play
Joseph Brenner <doom@[  2007-08-04 19:27:45 
Re: William Gibson - Pattern Recognition BBC Radio Play
"jd" <jdorri  2007-02-28 02:29:37 
Re: William Gibson - Pattern Recognition BBC Radio Play
Robert Rumble <rbrumbl  2007-02-28 21:08:18 

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