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Re: Cabal decision [was: C14 bids: committees jumping the gun]

by tepesh <tepesh@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 22, 2007 at 02:09 PM

On Apr 22, 9:56 am, Siobhan <n...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On 22 Apr 2007 03:53:06 -0700, tep...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
>
> >I assume you're referencing:
>
> >During this time Bid Proposal Committees may submit their Bid
> >Proposals and preliminary event budgets to Siobhan
> >(converge...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
) for inclusion on the Convergence 14 ballot.
> >After receipt of submission they may post their Bid Proposals to the
> >alt.gothic.* news groups, and open their web sites to the public.
> >Posting to regional mailing lists, weblogs and other mediums is
> >acceptable but not essential.
>
> >Again, this doesn't state anything regarding limitation of posting to
> >alternate venues.  Given that, according to the published rules, the
> >website MUST be on altgothic.com, they didn't launch their website
> >early.  It *does* state, however, that posting to "other mediums is
> >acceptable but not essential".
>
> It is acceptable during the promotion period.
>
> Having a website (or mailing list or whatever) prior to the event to
> measure interest, gather interested people to help put the bid
> together or get info about what people might like to see in a bid -
> all fine. None of those things are promotional activities. Many
> committees have done that, and I have often encouraged and even
> assisted them.
>
> Having a fully-fleshed out bid and using it to generate new voters for
> the event is going beyond the limits of acceptable.
>
> Siobhan


Please show me where the "promotion period" is described.  Please cite
the rule that states that having an offsite bid proposal up before the
submission period is against the rules.

Thus far, the only rules that seem to apply to this are:

>From the 'Convergence 14 Vote Timeline Update'

>Starting on April 14 2007, you must cross post your proposal to
alt.gothic, alt.gothic.fa****on and >alt.gothic.convergence during the
proposal nomination period.

This only states that you must post on those forums during the
nomination period, it does not state you must not announce your bid
prior to that date.

> Proposal web sites MUST be hosted on altgothic.com. No exceptions.

This does not state you are not allowed to have other announcements or
copies of your bid on other sites.  They have a site hosted on
altgothic.com, thus they are in compliance.

>From the 'FAQ' under "Convergence voting: More info" on the
altgothic.com website:

>After receipt of submission they may post their Bid Proposals to the
alt.gothic.* news groups, and
>open their web sites to the public.

Note that since the website MUST be hosted on altgothic.com, they
didn't violate any rule about opening their website to the public
before they'd submitted.

> Posting to regional mailing lists, weblogs and other mediums is
acceptable but not essential.

This doesn't state anything regarding when you can post to other
sources/venues.
 




 23 Posts in Topic:
C14 bids: committees jumping the gun
eilis <eilis@[EMAIL PR  2007-04-20 20:06:03 
Re: C14 bids: committees jumping the gun
clackmannan <clackmann  2007-04-21 07:48:02 
Re: C14 bids: committees jumping the gun
we won't stay dead <an  2007-04-21 10:57:02 
Cabal decision [was: C14 bids: committees jumping the gun]
Siobhan <news@[EMAIL P  2007-04-21 20:03:12 
Re: Cabal decision [was: C14 bids: committees jumping the gun]
tepesh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-04-21 20:06:30 
Re: Cabal decision [was: C14 bids: committees jumping the gun]
"Peter H. Coffin&quo  2007-04-21 22:33:12 
Re: Cabal decision [was: C14 bids: committees jumping the gun]
Micahra <micahra@[EMAI  2007-04-21 22:18:49 
Re: Cabal decision [was: C14 bids: committees jumping the gun]
"Peter H. Coffin&quo  2007-04-22 11:09:02 
Re: Cabal decision [was: C14 bids: committees jumping the gun]
tepesh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-04-22 03:53:06 
Re: Cabal decision [was: C14 bids: committees jumping the gun]
Siobhan <news@[EMAIL P  2007-04-22 10:56:15 
Re: Cabal decision [was: C14 bids: committees jumping the gun]
tepesh <tepesh@[EMAIL   2007-04-22 14:09:36 
Re: Cabal decision [was: C14 bids: committees jumping the gun]
Siobhan <news@[EMAIL P  2007-04-22 18:25:24 
Re: Cabal decision [was: C14 bids: committees jumping the gun]
"Peter H. Coffin&quo  2007-04-22 17:30:56 
Re: Cabal decision [was: C14 bids: committees jumping the gun]
Rafe <rafe@[EMAIL PROT  2007-04-26 07:02:17 
Re: Cabal decision [was: C14 bids: committees jumping the gun]
Macross Actual <grpery  2007-04-23 08:20:20 
Re: Cabal decision [was: C14 bids: committees jumping the gun]
gtrosper@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-04-25 09:04:04 
Re: Cabal decision [was: C14 bids: committees jumping the gun]
"Peter H. Coffin&quo  2007-04-25 11:40:31 
Re: Cabal decision [was: C14 bids: committees jumping the gun]
we won't stay dead <an  2007-04-26 07:45:53 
Re: Cabal decision [was: C14 bids: committees jumping the gun]
"Peter H. Coffin&quo  2007-04-26 10:49:38 
Re: Cabal decision [was: C14 bids: committees jumping the gun]
we won't stay dead <an  2007-04-27 10:53:43 
Re: Cabal decision [was: C14 bids: committees jumping the gun]
"Peter H. Coffin&quo  2007-04-27 15:01:59 
Re: Cabal decision [was: C14 bids: committees jumping the gun]
Axel <axel@[EMAIL PROT  2007-04-28 14:03:47 
Re: Cabal decision [was: C14 bids: committees jumping the gun]
we won't stay dead <an  2007-04-27 21:42:03 

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