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by "Winter Arcane" <tribearcane@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jan 28, 2005 at 03:06 PM

agsf_57@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
> Winter Arcane wrote:
>> <agsf_57@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>> news:1103701444.506961.203750@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>> Tiny Human Ferret wrote:
>>>> This is bogus, and probably goes against all of evolution. But you
>>>> knew that!
>>>
>>> Actually, I would think that if the man is unable to function
>>> because his needs are not met, then the whole family suffers? The
>>> thread died down anyway.
>>
>> Any parent that would put their needs ahead of those of the children
>> is probably a liability rather than a benefit to the family.  I love
>> my wife intensely, but as far as I'm concerned if it comes down to
>> her or the
>
>> children...she's expendable.
>
> I came across this article from the Feb 15 2005 issue of "Family
> Circle" (don't ask why I was reading that magazine). The article,
> titled "The two of you: 9 secrets of a great marriage" states:
>
> "1. Put Your Spouse First: ...putting each other first is actually one
> of the greatest gifts you can give a child. When spouses focus on
> parenting at the expense of their marriage, their adult emotional
> needs often go unmet, and they run the risk of imposing these needs
> on their kids. When they do, children can end up feeling responsible
> for making their parents happy and blame themselves when they fail.
> When spouses don't give their relation****p priority, not only does
> their marriage suffer, but their children suffer as well."
>
> Regards...

The original poster just said needs, not emotional needs.  If someone has
to 
go hungry, it's going to be me and my wife, not the kids.  Having spent
some 
time homeless and broke due to being screwed by a propective landlord when

we put everything we had into moving across two states, this has been an 
issue my own family has had to face and I can assure you that there was no

discord as my wife and I aren't whiny, selfish people who can't make a few

sacrifices for our children.

What people call emotional needs are actually, for the most part, wants. 
That's a whole different barrel of fish.  I wouldn't know about that
because 
it's not terribly hard to provide for the emotional wants of both my wife 
and my children...but then again, maybe I just have more emotional
resources 
than most people...I don't understand how the serious emotional wants of a

parent and the serious emotional wants of a child can be at odds.  I do 
think that what a parent wants takes precedence over what a child 
wants...that's just a privelege of rank, so to speak...if you sacrifice
your 
spouse's wants for your child's wants, then you're probably spoiling the 
children.

As an aside, just to give an idea of the position I'm speaking from, I've 
been happily married with two awesome children for seven years and have a 
relation****p with my wife that's just as passionate and loving as it was
in 
the beginning. It's going to take an awful lot to convince me that my
"it's 
a parents responsibility to put their children's (actual) needs before
their 
own (actual) needs" philosophy is somehow bad for my children...or even my

relation****p for that matter.  Maybe people need to start having higher 
standards in the people they breed with.

-- 
Winter Arcane (aka Vanuslux) - winterarcane@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 of Tribe Arcane - http://tribearcane.aaapowerhost.com/
Writer of Roth & Earl - http://www.rothandearl.com/
 




 37 Posts in Topic:
Ok
Sheila Marie <ssurla@[  2004-12-11 03:52:54 
Re: Ok
"Jack" <rhri  2004-12-11 17:13:32 
Re: Ok
Sheila Marie <ssurla@[  2004-12-12 23:09:40 
Re: Ok
Tiny Human Ferret <ixn  2004-12-13 11:54:28 
Re: Ok
Sheila Marie <ssurla@[  2004-12-15 01:13:53 
Re: Ok
"Jack" <rhri  2004-12-15 02:58:50 
Re: Ok
Tiny Human Ferret <ixn  2004-12-15 23:36:25 
Re: Ok
Sheila Marie <ssurla@[  2004-12-18 09:34:26 
Re: Ok
Red Drag Diva <fun@[EM  2004-12-18 12:08:31 
Re: Ok
"Jack" <rhri  2004-12-18 19:57:55 
Re: Ok
Sheila Marie <ssurla@[  2004-12-19 07:16:19 
Re: Ok
"Jack" <rhri  2004-12-18 19:55:05 
Re: Ok
Sheila Marie <ssurla@[  2004-12-19 07:19:10 
Re: Ok
"Jack" <rhri  2004-12-15 02:55:25 
Re: Ok
"~Fianna" <k  2004-12-15 16:38:21 
Re: Ok
Sheila Marie <ssurla@[  2004-12-18 09:39:19 
Re: Ok
"Marylittlegoth"  2004-12-17 21:20:17 
Re: Ok
agsf_57@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2004-12-19 17:09:26 
Re: Ok
Tiny Human Ferret <ixn  2004-12-21 08:46:09 
Re: Ok
"agsf_57@[EMAIL PROT  2004-12-21 23:44:04 
Re: Ok
"Winter Arcane"  2005-01-14 09:14:40 
Re: Ok
siani <siani@[EMAIL PR  2005-01-14 17:46:55 
Re: Ok
"Winter Arcane"  2005-01-16 14:59:49 
Re: Ok
siani <siani@[EMAIL PR  2005-01-16 20:29:05 
Re: Ok
Tiny Human Ferret <ixn  2005-01-16 18:50:58 
Re: Ok
"Winter Arcane"  2005-01-28 15:35:32 
Re: Ok
"Jack" <rhri  2005-01-19 01:43:11 
Re: Ok
Greylock_NOTTHESEBITSHERE  2004-12-27 05:57:13 
Re: Ok
"agsf_57@[EMAIL PROT  2005-01-15 10:58:25 
Re: Ok
"~Fianna" <k  2005-01-15 11:16:06 
Re: Ok
"agsf_57@[EMAIL PROT  2005-01-16 20:51:03 
Re: Ok
Tiny Human Ferret <ixn  2005-01-17 18:10:05 
Re: Ok
"agsf_57@[EMAIL PROT  2005-01-19 02:18:48 
Re: Ok
"agsf_57@[EMAIL PROT  2005-01-19 02:21:15 
Re: Ok
"Jack" <rhri  2005-01-19 19:27:58 
Re: Ok
"agsf_57@[EMAIL PROT  2005-01-23 17:05:33 
Re: Ok
"Winter Arcane"  2005-01-28 15:06:13 

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