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Re: Meta post

by "Peter H. Coffin" <hellsop@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 2, 2008 at 09:38 AM

On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 05:19:26 -0700, Troia wrote:
> Peter H. Coffin wrote:
>> On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 06:15:06 -0700, Troia wrote:
> ...
>>> I disagree.  The guy who found out about C13 from a ****tland newspaper

>>> is not going to care about voting on C14, nor are they going to have
any 
>>> awareness unless they've become part of the (sorry) community on-line.

>>> And if that's happened, then why shouldn't they vote on C14?
>
> Re-reading what I wrote, well, I hope that at least those who know me 
> realize the "sorry" was an apology for the word "community" (I'm not 
> fond of the term for on-line stuff, for which I apologize) and NOT NOT 
> NOT any sort of adjective!
>
> Uhhh, red-faced a bit here for not realizing how it may read.

Nah, it's cool -- sussed it.

>> The whole key is, I think, figuring out a way to find out who cares
>> where Convergence is as opposed to where the next Convergence wvent is.
The
>> people whom I think should have the biggest voice in the matter are the
>> ones that really care the least where the event is held, because
they're
>> the ones that are going to go anyway. In an ideal universe, EVERYONE
has
>> to travel four hours to get there.
>
> In an ideal universe, everyone who cared -could- travel four hours to 
> get there.  In my particular universe, it's often not really possible.

I understand that. But... Part of the nature of Convergence is that it's
travelling. The nice thing is that if someone can only go two hours or
whatever, then there's a chance it might be nearby someday. And, by
all means, someone that's part of alt.gothic can certainly factor how
close a bid is into their decision where to vote for. I'm note sure
though, that if the bids are *all* too far to attend, and thus won't be
attended, how much should that person want to have voice in the decision
where? On the other hand, many of the people that do go do travel every
year.

The reason I picked the four hour figure is that it's a reasonable base
for setting someone outside of their normal "home". Someone may fret
about work or how the babysitter is doing, but they're still pretty much
in the moment and place. If "home" is too close, then the temptation to
go there even "just for a while" gets powerful and a good ****tion of
what happens gets missed, and that's not really recommendable especially
for a first time. Dive in, head first.

-- 
"... I've seen Sun monitors on fire off the side of the multimedia lab.
 I've seen NTU lights glitter in the dark near the Mail Gate.
 All these things will be lost in time, like the root partition last week.
 Time to die...". -- Peter Gutmann in the scary.devil.monastery
 




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"Oct'avian" <  2008-05-03 19:37:14 
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