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Re: Camelot Spoilers

by lclough <clough@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 1, 2007 at 03:14 AM

John W. Kennedy wrote:

> Tim Bruening wrote:
> 
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>> lclough wrote:
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>>> Tim Bruening wrote:
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>>>> lclough wrote:
>>>>
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>>>>> Tim Bruening wrote:
>>>>>
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>>>>>> Why didn't Arthur ban burning at the stake when he was politically
>>>>>> strong?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I suggest that Arthur tell Lancelot to look up Tom and join forces
to
>>>>>> recreate
>>>>>> Camelot.
>>>>>
>>>>> Consider that 1) the musical is based on a novel written in the
>>>>> 20th century; 2) the novel was based on Le Morte d'Arthur, an
>>>>> epic compiled several centuries before that, and 3) the actual
>>>>> events are alleged to take place at the tag end of the Roman
>>>>> Empire.  In such a chronological hodgepodge it is pointless to
>>>>> look for historical accuracy.  In almost every case the creators
>>>>> did what they felt would make for a good story, consistency and
>>>>> historicity be damned.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Now I would like to know why Arthur wasn't asking why his wife has
been
>>>> accused and convicted of treason, or asking what she did to warrant a
>>>> treason charge, or demanding to review the evidence to make sure its
>>>> valid.  I find it unbelievable that Arthur wouldn't be curious as to 
>>>> why
>>>> his wife has suddenly been convicted of treason and sentenced to
death!
>>>>
>>> In that time (i.e. when the novel and epic were set, not the
>>> musical) adultery in the Queen was indeed treason.  The whole
>>> point of the marrying a virgin, your wife being faithful, your
>>> daughters being guarded bit was to ensure that you, the king,
>>> were going to pass your kingdom on to your true genetic son.  If
>>> the Queen commits adultery she is by definition imperilling the
>>> succession, and is lucky to get off merely with being burnt at
>>> the stake.  There are plenty of places on this planet even now
>>> where that rule holds.
>>
>>
>> Interestingly, in the version I saw, Arthur and Guenevere did not have 
>> any
>> children.  Arthur does have a true genetic son: Mordred.  Should 
>> Arthur pass
>> the kingdom on to him?
> 
> 
> Arthur's legitimate son disappeared very early in the evolution of the 
> mythos, and was never given anything to do. 
> 


This son was not by Arthur's marriage to Guinevere, I assume. 
(Arthur is alleged to have had at least a couple sons by one or 
another women previous to marriage.)  The quandary of the 
non-child-bearing queen is a toughie that many monarchs have had 
to wrestle with, Henry VIII being the best known.

Brenda





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---------
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Camelot Spoilers
Tim Bruening <tsbrueni  2007-02-26 15:20:22 
Re: Camelot Spoilers
lclough <clough@[EMAIL  2007-02-27 02:58:33 
Re: Camelot Spoilers
"John W. Kennedy&quo  2007-02-26 22:32:45 
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Tim Bruening <tsbrueni  2007-02-26 20:15:10 
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PAUL GADZIKOWSKI <scar  2007-02-27 09:37:59 
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Tim Bruening <tsbrueni  2007-02-27 21:05:40 
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Judy <judyjudy@[EMAIL   2007-02-28 05:36:06 
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"John W. Kennedy&quo  2007-02-27 11:34:13 
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Tim Bruening <tsbrueni  2007-02-27 21:11:27 
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PAUL GADZIKOWSKI <scar  2007-02-28 06:19:55 
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Tim Bruening <tsbrueni  2007-03-01 19:59:44 
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PAUL GADZIKOWSKI <scar  2007-03-02 07:57:20 
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"John W. Kennedy&quo  2007-03-02 13:34:39 
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Tim Bruening <tsbrueni  2007-03-04 13:38:54 
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"fmomoon" <f  2007-03-04 13:45:36 
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lclough <clough@[EMAIL  2007-03-04 22:21:34 
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PAUL GADZIKOWSKI <scar  2007-03-05 07:12:04 
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"John W. Kennedy&quo  2007-03-05 15:44:59 
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"John W. Kennedy&quo  2007-02-28 21:36:35 
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Tim Bruening <tsbrueni  2007-03-01 20:07:46 
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"John W. Kennedy&quo  2007-03-02 13:44:21 
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Tim Bruening <tsbrueni  2007-03-04 13:41:26 
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"John W. Kennedy&quo  2007-03-05 15:47:37 
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lclough <clough@[EMAIL  2007-02-28 00:14:13 
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Tim Bruening <tsbrueni  2007-02-27 21:22:16 
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lclough <clough@[EMAIL  2007-02-28 23:47:46 
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Tim Bruening <tsbrueni  2007-03-01 20:04:02 
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"solar penguin"  2007-03-02 18:29:07 
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Tim Bruening <tsbrueni  2007-03-04 14:32:14 
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lclough <clough@[EMAIL  2007-03-05 01:05:45 
Re: Camelot Spoilers
"John W. Kennedy&quo  2007-03-02 13:56:16 
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"John W. Kennedy&quo  2007-02-28 21:45:50 
Re: Camelot Spoilers
lclough <clough@[EMAIL  2007-03-01 03:14:19 
Re: Camelot Spoilers
"John W. Kennedy&quo  2007-02-28 22:51:05 
Re: Camelot Spoilers
Tim Bruening <tsbrueni  2007-03-01 00:36:26 
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"John W. Kennedy&quo  2007-03-01 20:15:46 
Re: Camelot Spoilers
Terry Jones <terryjone  2007-02-28 09:03:32 
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Tim Bruening <tsbrueni  2007-03-01 00:40:13 
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Tim Bruening <tsbrueni  2007-03-01 00:41:20 
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"John W. Kennedy&quo  2007-03-01 20:20:51 
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Tim Bruening <tsbrueni  2007-03-01 19:51:04 
Re: Camelot Spoilers
"John W. Kennedy&quo  2007-03-02 13:58:25 
Re: Camelot Spoilers
Tim Bruening <tsbrueni  2007-03-01 00:43:35 
Re: Camelot Spoilers
PAUL GADZIKOWSKI <scar  2007-03-01 07:27:39 
Re: Camelot Spoilers
"John W. Kennedy&quo  2007-03-01 20:25:52 
Re: Camelot Spoilers
lclough <clough@[EMAIL  2007-03-01 23:21:17 
Re: Camelot Spoilers
"John W. Kennedy&quo  2007-03-01 20:22:06 
Re: Camelot Spoilers
"ElBob-O" <r  2007-03-05 17:07:03 

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