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Re: Camelot Spoilers

by lclough <clough@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 1, 2007 at 11:21 PM

Tim Bruening wrote:
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>>Tim Bruening wrote:
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>>>lclough wrote:
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>>>>Tim Bruening wrote:
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>>>>>Spoilers:
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>>>>>Why didn't Arthur ban burning at the stake when he was politically
>>>>>strong?
>>>>>
>>>>>I suggest that Arthur tell Lancelot to look up Tom and join forces to
>>>>>recreate
>>>>>Camelot.
>>>>
>>>>Consider that 1) the musical is based on a novel written in the
>>>>20th century; 2) the novel was based on Le Morte d'Arthur, an
>>>>epic compiled several centuries before that, and 3) the actual
>>>>events are alleged to take place at the tag end of the Roman
>>>>Empire.  In such a chronological hodgepodge it is pointless to
>>>>look for historical accuracy.  In almost every case the creators
>>>>did what they felt would make for a good story, consistency and
>>>>historicity be damned.
>>>
>>>
>>>Now I would like to know why Arthur wasn't asking why his wife has been
>>>accused and convicted of treason, or asking what she did to warrant a
>>>treason charge, or demanding to review the evidence to make sure its
>>>valid.  I find it unbelievable that Arthur wouldn't be curious as to
why
>>>his wife has suddenly been convicted of treason and sentenced to death!
>>>
>>
>>In that time (i.e. when the novel and epic were set, not the
>>musical) adultery in the Queen was indeed treason.  The whole
>>point of the marrying a virgin, your wife being faithful, your
>>daughters being guarded bit was to ensure that you, the king,
>>were going to pass your kingdom on to your true genetic son.  If
>>the Queen commits adultery she is by definition imperilling the
>>succession, and is lucky to get off merely with being burnt at
>>the stake.  There are plenty of places on this planet even now
>>where that rule holds.
> 
> 
> I had thought that Mordred and the rebel knights might have trumped up
> the
> treason charges, so I figured that it might do some good for Arthur to
> contest
> the treason charges.
> 
> To me, treason constitutes aiding and abetting your nation's enemies by
> such means as fighting for them, selling arms to them, and leaking
> national secrets to them.  Adultery does not, by itself, help your
> nation's enemies.


Tch.  It ALL depends on how you define 'nation.'  If l'etat, 
c'est moi, then of course any personal betrayal is treason.  I 
am sure that if you asked Kim Jong-Il he believes it.

Brenda


-- 
---------
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http://www.sff.net/people/Brenda/

Recent short fiction:
FUTURE WA****NGTON (WSFA Press, October '05)
http://www.futurewa****ngton.com

FIRST HEROES (TOR, May '04)
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Camelot Spoilers
Tim Bruening <tsbrueni  2007-02-26 15:20:22 
Re: Camelot Spoilers
lclough <clough@[EMAIL  2007-02-27 02:58:33 
Re: Camelot Spoilers
"John W. Kennedy&quo  2007-02-26 22:32:45 
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Tim Bruening <tsbrueni  2007-02-26 20:15:10 
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PAUL GADZIKOWSKI <scar  2007-02-27 09:37:59 
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Tim Bruening <tsbrueni  2007-02-27 21:05:40 
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Judy <judyjudy@[EMAIL   2007-02-28 05:36:06 
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"John W. Kennedy&quo  2007-02-27 11:34:13 
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Tim Bruening <tsbrueni  2007-02-27 21:11:27 
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PAUL GADZIKOWSKI <scar  2007-02-28 06:19:55 
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Tim Bruening <tsbrueni  2007-03-01 19:59:44 
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PAUL GADZIKOWSKI <scar  2007-03-02 07:57:20 
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"John W. Kennedy&quo  2007-03-02 13:34:39 
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Tim Bruening <tsbrueni  2007-03-04 13:38:54 
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"fmomoon" <f  2007-03-04 13:45:36 
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lclough <clough@[EMAIL  2007-03-04 22:21:34 
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PAUL GADZIKOWSKI <scar  2007-03-05 07:12:04 
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"John W. Kennedy&quo  2007-03-05 15:44:59 
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"John W. Kennedy&quo  2007-02-28 21:36:35 
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Tim Bruening <tsbrueni  2007-03-01 20:07:46 
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"John W. Kennedy&quo  2007-03-02 13:44:21 
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Tim Bruening <tsbrueni  2007-03-04 13:41:26 
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"John W. Kennedy&quo  2007-03-05 15:47:37 
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lclough <clough@[EMAIL  2007-02-28 00:14:13 
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Tim Bruening <tsbrueni  2007-02-27 21:22:16 
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lclough <clough@[EMAIL  2007-02-28 23:47:46 
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Tim Bruening <tsbrueni  2007-03-01 20:04:02 
Re: Camelot Spoilers
"solar penguin"  2007-03-02 18:29:07 
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Tim Bruening <tsbrueni  2007-03-04 14:32:14 
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lclough <clough@[EMAIL  2007-03-05 01:05:45 
Re: Camelot Spoilers
"John W. Kennedy&quo  2007-03-02 13:56:16 
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"John W. Kennedy&quo  2007-02-28 21:45:50 
Re: Camelot Spoilers
lclough <clough@[EMAIL  2007-03-01 03:14:19 
Re: Camelot Spoilers
"John W. Kennedy&quo  2007-02-28 22:51:05 
Re: Camelot Spoilers
Tim Bruening <tsbrueni  2007-03-01 00:36:26 
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"John W. Kennedy&quo  2007-03-01 20:15:46 
Re: Camelot Spoilers
Terry Jones <terryjone  2007-02-28 09:03:32 
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Tim Bruening <tsbrueni  2007-03-01 00:40:13 
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Tim Bruening <tsbrueni  2007-03-01 00:41:20 
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"John W. Kennedy&quo  2007-03-01 20:20:51 
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Tim Bruening <tsbrueni  2007-03-01 19:51:04 
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"John W. Kennedy&quo  2007-03-02 13:58:25 
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Tim Bruening <tsbrueni  2007-03-01 00:43:35 
Re: Camelot Spoilers
PAUL GADZIKOWSKI <scar  2007-03-01 07:27:39 
Re: Camelot Spoilers
"John W. Kennedy&quo  2007-03-01 20:25:52 
Re: Camelot Spoilers
lclough <clough@[EMAIL  2007-03-01 23:21:17 
Re: Camelot Spoilers
"John W. Kennedy&quo  2007-03-01 20:22:06 
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"ElBob-O" <r  2007-03-05 17:07:03 

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