Re: same *** marriage petition (Canada) .

"Melanie" <chovhani@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> If it's beyond their control, yes. But "good" IS a judgement. <

Yes. It is a matter of moral judgement. But so is the suggestion that
moral
judgements are to be avoided. That too is a judgement. :-)

> With the world's population as it is we should be grateful that not
everyone raises a family. <

Amen. But I believe the U. S. and other industrialized nations no longer
have population problems, and are actually a little behind in replacement
births. I think it was attributed to equal op****tunities for women. Our
population increase is due instead to immigration.

> It isn't at the top of everyone's list, even when they have free choice.
However, a homo***ual couple can make excellent parents ... <

Absolutely.

>  ... it would be equally tragic if if a homo***ual ends up believing
they
are hetero***ual, when in fact they are not.  because either way they are
not enjoying knowing their authentic self, and that is the saddest thing I
can think of. <

I agree that self-knowledge is very im****tant. But I don't agree that the
only correct response to a homo***ual orientation is to abstain from
normal
mating. A person seeks to form a normal family for the satisfactions it
brings to life. It brings companion****p, love, children, and
grandchildren,
etc. I believe it is possible for a homo***ual to love someone of the
opposite ***, even if they do not "fall in love" with them. And I believe
that love, rather than "falling in love", is the true basis for any long
term relation****p.

> Therefore what is of paramount im****tantce is the freedom for everyone
to
know who they are without repression or being told they are deluded. <

We both agree that there should be no delusions. There should be
self-knowledge. There should be informed choices. The commitment to love
someone should be a conscious decision, each person knowing the other, and
not a matter where they are swept up in an ocean of hormones, with tides
that rise and fall, and often break on foreign shores.