On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 15:30:29 -0700, {8-]))) <jay@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>
> AC wrote:
>>On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 11:43:59 -0600, Shundahai Network
<shundahai@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>
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>>> As a result of these conditions, the Western Shoshone Nation has
endured
>>> three full scale armed field invasions over the past three years at
the
>>> hands of the US government. These have occured at the same time as
>>> congressional hearings have taken place, which Western Shoshone
defenders
>>> have either been shut out of- or, in order to keep them "occupied" (as
it
>>> were), have suffered with their lands and livelihood under armed U.S.
>>> invasion and constant surveillance.
>>>
>>
>>The Shoshones are as dependent upon the Industrial-Capitalist system as
>>any other Americans, so why should they not be subject to the same
>>laws as other Americans?
>
> Because the no other people
> were treated quite as were the Nations
> living here way back when. A similar question
> could apply to grandchildren of slaves.
>
They are given plenty of priveleges, such as tax exemptions and welfare
and free land and exemptions from many other laws to compensate for
that.
I don't think that applies in this situation. Eminent Domain, the taking
of private property for the public good is essential to this system.
There couldn't be a road system without it, for example.
> The majority of so-called Americans
> migrated to this country and are extremely
> happy when they compare life to the old world.
> This is not the case with everyone however.
>
We stole this land and destroyed their culture. I know.
>>These are not people living in the Old Ways. They shop at stores and use
>>rifles and drive cars and wear Levis and watch Television and drink
Coors.
>
> In other words,
> it's perfectly okay
> to decimate, kidnap,
> and do anything a "country"
> might wish to do, and after a
> generation or two, it doesn't matter?
>
No. But the same thing is going now, (in the M.E., for example)
and is as necessary as eminent domain to the 'health' of
this system, which the Native Americans are dependent on.
THEY are doing it as much as any White Man.
>><snip>
>>
>>I don't understand where you are coming from at all.
>
> Maybe because you are
> not a member of an oppressed nation
> living under foreign rule.
>
They do not even TRY to live in the Old Ways or a version of
them adapted to current realities.
They have sold out and they are one of us now.
"Oppressed nation" my ass. They are welfare
trash with quaint costumes for the tourists.
Apples: Red on the outside and White on the inside.
AC
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