On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 05:32:05 -0700, {8-]))) <jay@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>
> AC wrote:
>>JB wrote:
>>> AC wrote:
>
>>They are given plenty of priveleges, such as tax exemptions and welfare
>>and free land and exemptions from many other laws to compensate for
>>that.
>>
>>I don't think that applies in this situation.
>
> Suppose the States take over Iraq
> such as they will if the American people allow it.
> The Iraqis will be given plenty of priveleges,
> etc., and since they will drive cars, ... .
>
It doesn't look to me like the attempted conquest is going
to work.
If it does, it will be because the Iraqis are as corrupt as
the Native Americans who *facilitated* the conquest of
what is now called "America".
>>Eminent Domain, the taking
>>of private property for the public good is essential to this system.
>>There couldn't be a road system without it, for example.
>
> If any Iraqis are in the way of the States,
> Eminent Domain, or is it Manifest Destiny,
> will allow Business to just do about anything,
> It is essential for the American way of life,
> you know, oil and all that.
>
And new markets and re-instating the opium farming that the
Taliban destroyed, taking 200+ billion dollars out of the
economy of the West.
There is now more opium being grown in Afghanistan than there
was before:
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/
> So too
> was it not long ago in the Hemisphere
> which was taken by force.
>
Yes.
>>> The majority of so-called Americans
>>> migrated to this country and are extremely
>>> happy when they compare life to the old world.
>>> This is not the case with everyone however.
>>>
>>
>>We stole this land and destroyed their culture. I know.
>
> You must be very old.
> Maybe you didn't steal anybody's land,
> and maybe you can't get Bush out of Iraq,
> but your children might think about if people
> of other Nations ought to be treated as
> American are treated or as the people of
> the stolen land would prefer, that being,
> for the States to go home.
>
You are assuming that I sup****t America.
Nope. I think they are assholes, and that includes
the native americans who have sold out, which is, as
far as I can tell, all of them.
>>>>These are not people living in the Old Ways. They shop at stores and
use
>>>>rifles and drive cars and wear Levis and watch Television and drink
Coors.
>>>
>>> In other words,
>>> it's perfectly okay
>>> to decimate, kidnap,
>>> and do anything a "country"
>>> might wish to do, and after a
>>> generation or two, it doesn't matter?
>>>
>>
>>No.
>
> End of story.
>
>>But
>
> Except, hmmm.
>
>>the same thing is going now, (in the M.E., for example)
>
> And that makes it okay.
>
You want to play silly and childish argumentative word games,
then you will have to find some one else.
The Native Americans are Americans. They send their men to fight
in American imperialistic wars. They live off Cor****ations that
trash the Planet and exploit helpless peasants around the world.
They trash their OWN lands to make money to buy beer and TVs and
cars and rifles.
Like all Americans, they are criminals, hypocrites, and assholes.
That clear enough?
If you don't like my opionions, feel free to eat ****.
The Rainbow People are Americans too.
Talk is cheap. They get together and have a party in the woods
every once in a while and wear hippy uniforms and have their
own little language, but they live just like other Americans.
The Universe doesn't care what you SAY, it cares what you DO.
<snip>
AC
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