All are Churches of the devill.... READ WARHOL Post and you will get a
clue...
"Gordon" <gordonmuir2003google@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> a écrit dans le message de news:
1125752009.530789.236390@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On the I am University website below Dr Joshua David Stone says the
> mission of the I Am University is to unite all religions,all spiritual
> paths,all channelings,all spiritual texts,all spiritual
> teachers,gurus,prophets,all countries,cultures,races and forms of
> psychology and philosophies,this is what Rev.Moons unification movement
> claims to be doing aswell but Dr Joshua Stone does not believe Rev.Moon
> is the Messiah and he says there is not going to be another Messiah.
>
> Im posting this to the spiritualist newsgroups because myself and
> hundreds of other people around the world need communication from the
> ascended masters in the spirit world to see what the correct
> information is concerning these two organisations contradictory claims
> below.
>
> http://www.usasurvival.org/ck7502.shtml
> Article in the Wa****ngton Times says Jesus,Muhammed,Buddha,Con****ious
> and many more say Rev.Moon is the Messiah.
>
> http://www.foreignlands.org/moon
> Chung Pyung Heaven and Earth Training Center,Moonies spiritual
> communication gateway to the spirit world,I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE ALL
> SPIRITUALISTS TO THIS PLACE TO SEE IF THESE CLAIMS ARE TRUE?
> http://eng.cheongpyeong.org/frame.htm
Moonies Heaven and Earth
> Training Center.
>
> http://www.iamuniversity.org
> Why does Rev.Moon say his son Heung Jin Nim is the leader of the entire
> spirit world but the I Am University new age organisation who are in
> contact with the ascended masters say Lord Maitreya is the head of the
> spiritual hierarchy.
>
> click on new cosmic map of the spiritual hierarchy.
>
> The I Am University say Jesus is working with the 6th ray energy for
> the unification
> of all religions which is similiar to what Rev.Moons unification
> movement is doing.
>
> http://familyfed.org
Moonies main website,click on links for other
> states.
>
> Gordon Muir.
>
> Danny and Dianna wrote:
> Here is more information, given by a current
> member to the world. Eric can deny it until he is
> blue in the face, but we know he is a nobody in
> the UC. He dared to call my driver job as a step
> down, even though I was a driver for Rev. Sudo,
> and Rev. Sawada. I had been Director of
> Trans****tation for NY, after being on the MFT for
> years. I took that driving gig at a heart beat.
>
> They first took me to some spiritualists, and
> looked over my hands back and forth, then they
> > > > gave me the job.
> > > >
> > > > How many Doctors does anyone know that can spend
> > > > the day on the internet, always answering ARU????
> > > >
> > > > Just think, you can join the UC, and have the
> > > > close call the members had when they were
> > > > handcuffed inside a building, and the building was
> > > > locked. And the psycho walked around with a gun.
> > > > Sounds familar?
> > > >
> > > > Danny
> > > > --
> > > > And the pregnant woman was chased by the
> > > > Beast, but God gave her wings of an Eagle,
> > > > so she could fly away and hide until it is her
> > > > time.
> > > >
> > > > Unification Sermons and Talks
> > > >
> > > > Reverends Fefferman
> > > >
> > > > Black Heung Jin - The Victory of (All You Need Is)
> > > > Love
> > > >
> > > > Dan Fefferman
> > > >
> > > > A freezing rain had fallen on already icy New
> > > > England roads that night in December as I drove
> > > > the ****vering fundraising team back toward the
> > > > seminary after our three-week stint hawking
> > > > sound-activated mechanical dogs shop-to-shop.
> > > > Suddenly a gust of wind hit the Dodge van
> > > > broadside and blew it into the oncoming traffic
> > > > lane. I fought vainly against the skid for what
> > > > must have been several hundred yards, attempting
> > > > to maneuver the van back to the right. Only the
> > > > lucky fact that no cars were coming from the
> > > > opposite direction prevented a tragedy. I reduced
> > > > my speed fifty percent and crept carefully along
> > > > until we reached a motel. The next day, we arrived
> > > > in Barrytown to hear the tragic news that Rev.
> > > > Moon's faithful teenage son Heung Jin had not been
> > > > so fortunate. His car had slammed into a
> > > > jackknifed truck a few miles down the road toward
> > > > Poughkeepsie. He remained in a coma long enough
> > > > for his parents to return from a speaking tour in
> > > > Korea. Then he died.
> > > >
> > > > At Heung Jin Nim's funeral, or "Seung Hwa"
> > > > (Harmonious Ascension) ceremony, Rev. Moon
> > > > declared that his son's death had not been in
> > > > vain. It was, in fact, a vicarious atonement for
> > > > the sin of the American Unification Movement,
> > > > whose failures had resulted in the unjust
> > > > imprisonment of Rev. Moon for tax evasion in
> > > > Danbury prison. Heung Jin Nim, he declared, now
> > > > sat at the right hand of God in the spiritual
> > > > world together with Jesus. Kings and presidents,
> > > > sages and saints, even Jesus himself had submitted
> > > > themselves to his authority. His ascension into
> > > > the spiritual world had created a turning point in
> > > > the struggle between good and evil. From now on
> > > > God's providence world move foreword rapidly. And
> > > > the spiritual world, centering on Heung Jin Nim,
> > > > would cooperate in an unprecedented way with the
> > > > Unification movement on earth. Heung Jin himself
> > > > would be able to communicate freely between the
> > > > two worlds. Revelations were to be expected. A new
> > > > Church holiday, the Day of the Victory of Love was
> > > > initiated.
> > > >
> > > > The next three years indeed witnessed a flood of
> > > > spiritual communications from "Lord Heung Jin,"
> > > > delivered through numerous U.C. members throughout
> > > > the world and culminating in the "incarnation" of
> > > > Heung Jin Nim in a member from Zimbabwe. The
> > > > publication of a compilation of these revelations
> > > > by HSA-UWC in the new book Victory of Love, marks,
> > > > I believe, a milestone in the Church's history,
> > > > the significance of which I shall explore below.
> > > >
> > > > The book's title derives from the Church Holiday
> > > > initiated to commemorate Heung Jin's sacrifice. It
> > > > is a collection of transcripts of re****ted
> > > > communications from Heung Jin Nim (the term "Nim"
> > > > is a Korean honorific roughly equivalent to "Lord"
> > > > in English).
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps most interesting of all is the inclusion
> > > > of a mere two communications from the Zimbabwean
> > > > source. This spokesman -- no mere channel but an
> > > > actual tem****ary "incarnation" by Heung Jin,
> > > > according to Church officials -- preached for well
> > > > over a year in every major Church center in
> > > > Europe, America, Japan and Korea. He held lengthy
> > > > workshops, heard confessions, meted out penance,
> > > > forgave sins, arranged adoptions for childless
> > > > couples, healed marriages, even solemnized
> > > > divorces. Yet a mere three years later, his
> > > > revelations merit a mere 50 pages out of 264.
> > > >
> > > > I for one consider this a happy decision by the
> > > > editors. They have done the Church a service, in
> > > > one sense, by not admitting to the institutional
> > > > memory such foibles as the infamous "List of Sins"
> > > > each member was required to renounce before
> > > > completing one of the African Heung Jin Nim's
> > > > conferences. It turns out that many of the acts
> > > > for which we were pronounced guilty were not
> > > > really sins after all. Yet thousands of faithful
> > > > Unificationists publicly humiliated themselves in
> > > > renouncing them.
> > > >
> > > > Foremost among these were a list of alleged
> > > > misdeeds apparently resulting from the African
> > > > Heung Jin's penchant for the micromanaging
> > > > members' ***ual lives. Everything from birth
> > > > control to oral *** to the use of any posture
> > > > other than the "missionary position" was
> > > > forbidden. Thankfully, Rev. Moon himself later
> > > > offered a corrective to this mis-guidance, at a
> > > > conference for international missionaries during
> > > > the Seoul Olympics in the summer of 1990 (1988?
> > > > df). Since the speech was never reproduced in the
> > > > U.S., it is im****tant here to quote the relevant
> > > > passages at length:
> > > >
> > > > "Ask all the creations of the universe, your eye,
> > > > your ear, your nose. Which do your lips like
> > > > better, your own lips or your lover's lips? Even
> > > > teeth. They are rough and hard. They usually bite
> > > > food. But that isn't their main purpose. Bite the
> > > > lover!...
> > > > "Did you bite your lover's hips. Did you?!
> > > > [Audience: "Amen!" Laughter.] The most mysterious
> > > > kind of joy or peace will be given when you use
> > > > your mouth or teeth to bite or lick the most
> > > > precious part of your lover...
> > > > "What part of your lover would you like to touch?
> > > > Hair, hands, face, leg, palm or what? When you
> > > > touch your lover's hips or bosom, she might say
> > > > "Oh, I haven't bathed yet. It's smelly." But to me
> > > > it is a perfume. [Laughter] Your laughing means
> > > > you share a common experience. Did you? I did
> > > > experience this!...
> > > > "So freedom -- of hands, ears, lips, eyes, etc.,
> > > > all five senses -- freedom is given. But how to be
> > > > used? To engender True Love and True Freedom. When
> > > > Father looks at you -- your faces, eyes, ears,
> > > > nose -- knowing that nose loves True Love, he
> > > > doesn't feel like saying "you rascal, get out!" He
> > > > feels tenderness toward you, knowing your senses
> > > > love true love."(1)
> > > > Mrs. Moon explained the apparent contradiction
> > > > between Rev. Moon's standard of True Love and
> > > > Heung Jin Nim's list of sins by reminding the
> > > > missionaries that Heung Jin had died at the tender
> > > > age of 17 without ever knowing the bliss of ***ual
> > > > union. Such a "Puritanical" attitude, she
> > > > explained, is appropriate for a teenager, but
> > > > adults understand that God wants blessed couples
> > > > to feel free to express their True Love for one
> > > > another as their hearts direct them. (2)
> > > >
> > > > Yet, while I am grateful to the editors of Victory
> > > > of Love for their choice of which material to
> > > > include, I also believe that the time has come to
> > > > speak openly and directly about the Heung Jin
> > > > phenomenon. In this sense, the book misses the
> > > > mark.
> > > >
> > > > I do not believe we should ignore some of the
> > > > teachings and practices which Heung Jin -- or
> > > > rather, which the "African Brother" in the name of
> > > > Heung Jin -- carried out. Foremost among these was
> > > > the extensive use of violence and intimidation.
> > > >
> > > > The use of violence by the African "Heung Jin" was
> > > > defended by some Church leaders as equivalent to
> > > > acts of penance and contrition in the Catholic
> > > > Church. This rationalization may have had merit,
> > > > if all we were talking of were a slap on the face
> > > > and the imposition of conditions of fasting and
> > > > prayer -- and in most cases, that's all it was.
> > > > But in other cases -- not just isolated cases, but
> > > > nearly everywhere this African Heung Jin
> > > > preached -- acts of serious violence were carried
> > > > out.
> > > >
> > > > In Wa****ngton, D.C. the Church's doors were locked
> > > > to prevent people from leaving. Members, both men
> > > > and women, were handcuffed to radiators. Several
> > > > were beaten strongly, not just slapped. In
> > > > Barrytown, one member's nose was broken; another
> > > > was sent to the hospital with broken ribs. In New
> > > > York, a member was beaten so severely that he
> > > > spent a week in the hospital with severe head and
> > > > body injuries, and later required surgery. In
> > > > Japan, several more members were sent to the
> > > > hospital. "Heung Jin" also walked around armed
> > > > with a pistol and threatened severe punishment,
> > > > including death (to be executed by God, not
> > > > himself) for those who failed to unite with him.
> > > >
> > > > I realize the use of violence has been condoned
> > > > even lately, by Church leaders. Rev. Moon's living
> > > > son Hyun Jin, for example, states that:
> > > >
> > > > 'When Heung Jin Nim came in the black brother's
> > > > body, you thought, "that can't be Heung Jin Nim."
> > > > And some of you were upset about him beating
> > > > you... If I got hit by Heung Jin Nim, I would say
> > > > "great." Physical pain will go away. But the
> > > > failures you have in life could stay with you for
> > > > eternity." '(3)
> > > > The fact remains that if the principle of
> > > > institutionalized violence -- even in the name of
> > > > True Love -- is left unchallenged, we are leaving
> > > > a very dangerous precedent for future generations.
> > > > The violence which the African "Heung Jin" did to
> > > > the members of the Unification Church is a blot on
> > > > Rev. Moon's record which can only be erased, in my
> > > > opinion, by a frank recognition by the True Family
> > > > that it was wrong -- if not in principle at least
> > > > in the actual degree to which it was carried out.
> > > >
> > > > In fact, Rev. Moon himself came close to doing
> > > > this when, in 1990, he dispatched the "African
> > > > Brother" back to Zimbabwe, told "Heung Jin" to
> > > > work from the spiritual world from now on and
> > > > instructed Church leaders that any future
> > > > incarnations or channels would not be legitimate.
> > > >
> > > > The Zimbabsdean's name, incedentally, is Cleopas
> > > > Kundioni. But he did not refrain speaking as Heung
> > > > Jin when he returned to Africa. After Church
> > > > leaders reprimanded him for this and attempted to
> > > > curb his power, he eventually formed a splinter
> > > > group, taking some of the Africa's senior members
> > > > along with him, including my own spiritual son,
> > > > Greogory Novalis. He now re****tedly claims to be
> > > > Heung Jin no longer, but a Christ in his own
> > > > right.
> > > >
> > > > With that history behind us, the publication of
> > > > Victory of Love takes on a new light. It is
> > > > certainly a valuable source book of inspirational
> > > > readings, which succeeded in bring several tears
> > > > to the eye of even this critical reader. But for
> > > > me it is best understood as an expression of the
> > > > spirituality of the channelers. It's authority as
> > > > a collection of actual communications from Heung
> > > > Jin has been forever tainted for me by those dark
> > > > days of fear and confusion when a man of violence
> > > > was loosed upon the Church in Heung Jin's name.
> > > >
> > > > The book is presented as authored by "Heung Jin
> > > > Moon." Yet it includes no example of words or
> > > > writings actually spoken or composed by Heung Jin
> > > > Moon while he lived on earth. Most of the
> > > > communications were received through channeling.
> > > > The chanellers are not identified, except when
> > > > referred to by "Heung Jin" during the
> > > > communication. Even then only initials are given.
> > > > This convention makes the book less useful than it
> > > > could have been. We are able to tentatively
> > > > identify the channeler "J" as probably Jim
> > > > Stephens, who received numerous communications
> > > > from Heung Jin while coordinating seminars for
> > > > Christian clergy in Korea. And the source of the
> > > > last two chapters -- based on abridged texts of
> > > > conferences for "Second-Self Wives and Second Self
> > > > Husbands" -- bears the unmistakable handwriting of
> > > > the Zimbabwean source. But other revelators are
> > > > not easily identifiable.
> > > >
> > > > The use of initials is also carried over when
> > > > "Heung Jin" speaks of or to specific individuals.
> > > > This, too, prevents clarity. Rev. "A," referred to
> > > > as the leader of a 40-Day Training workshop, is
> > > > undoubtedly Rev. Ahn, director of education in New
> > > > York. But is "Rev. K." who appears several times,
> > > > actually Rev. Kamiyama, Rev. Kwak, or one of the
> > > > innumerable Rev. Kim's?
> > > >
> > > > Lest the reader think me ungrateful, I should
> > > > point out that in many ways, Victory of Love
> > > > inspires me and gives me hope for the Church's
> > > > future. It has captured numerous beautiful
> > > > expressions of "Heung Jin's" commitment to True
> > > > Love. It has indicated that the Church apparently
> > > > does not wish to canonize those aspects of the
> > > > African Heung Jin's ministry which I personally
> > > > found abhorrent. And it has clarified that on one
> > > > at least one issue, about which I had been worried
> > > > (see below), I can now rest easy.
> > > >
> > > > My anxiety resulted from the "revelation" which
> > > > had been posted on the Seminary bulletin board
> > > > back in 1986, in which "Heung Jin" instructed
> > > > members never to sing popular songs while
> > > > witnessing, but to sing only Holy Songs. I
> > > > remember my own anguish reading this, for I, just
> > > > two nights previously, had received my own (and
> > > > only) revelation from Heung Jin, in which his
> > > > spirit came to me during the airing of the popular
> > > > song "Love Is a Battlefield" by Pat Benatar. The
> > > > Heung Jin who hated popular songs appeared so
> > > > different from my Heung Jin, who had loved even
> > > > Heavy Metal while alive. I remember telling a
> > > > friend at the time: "This tradition of channeling
> > > > for Heung Jin is going to lead to trouble."
> > > >
> > > > But now that revelation from the Heung Jin who
> > > > hated popular music has been forgotten. In Victory
> > > > of Love, we find instead:
> > > >
> > > > This is the key. It is so simple. Love one
> > > > another. The Beatles have a song they sing, "All
> > > > You Need Is Love." You can sing this song. It can
> > > > become our anthem.(4)
> > > > And to that I say "Amen."
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --------------------------------------------------
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 1. Conference for International Missionaries,
> > > > Summer, 1990. The passages were transcribed by the
> > > > author from a video tape. The translator is Dr. Bo
> > > > Hi Pak. It should be noted that Dr. Pak, in other
> > > > speeches, often uses the word "hips" as a
> > > > euphemism for a woman's ***ual organs.
> > > >
> > > > 2. Re****ted to the author independently by a
> > > > witness, who declined to be identified.
> > > >
> > > > 3. Hyun Jin Moon, "True Parents' Tradition,"
> > > > published transcript from unofficial notes of
> > > > sermon given in Wa****ngton, D.C., May, 17, 1992.
> > > >
> > > > 4. Victory of Love, p. 22.
>
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