Re: The Fascist States of America

In message <g5l34b$342$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, Ben wrote:
> §ñühwØ£f wrote:
> > On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 00:49:38 +0100, Ben aided th' terraists with the
> > following claims :
> > 
> >> §ñühw¤£f wrote:
> >>> In message <g5j6dn$cjn$3@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, Ben wrote:
> >>>> §ñühw¤£f wrote:
> >>>>> This is what we've come to: pure fascism.
> >>>>> http://www.alternet.org/rights/86810/
> >>>> And the rest of the world says to the USA:
> >>>>
> >>>> You *really* never saw it coming?
> >>> Most people dont want to believe "that it can happen here".
> >> I thought that was what the second amendment was designed for in the 
> >> first place?
> > 
> > to arm local militias against the british actually :)
> > 
> >> And the excuse for keeping it that gets blasted around all 
> >> the time in America.
> > 
> > Its one of the illusions of personal power that the government likes
its
> > citizens to have. Like the idea that your vote actually counts...
> > www.blackboxvoting.org
> > 
> >  Well to insist that the USA can't turn into a 
> >> fascist nation because of the "American dream" etc. and still throw 
> >> around the Second Amendment which was designed to allow the public to

> >> actively prevent a corrupt government.
> > 
> > Your pistol is no match for a apache helicopter :)
> > 
> >  Yet in the face of corruption, 
> >> the American public whinge and whine and never do anything to fix it.
> >>
> > 
> > if the votes dont actually count and theres no real choice to be had
> > anyway since the candidates are in the pocket of big buisness...how
> > exactly *does* the public hold its selected leaders accoutable?
> > karl Rove continues to defy congress. Result? Nothing.
> > Bush lies us into war, millions of innocents killed. Result?
> > No impeachment.
> >  
> >> Seems a little hypocritical to me.
> > 
> > Seem that you still think "we the people" *have* a voice :)
> > 
> > 
> 
> I don't, not in America anyways. Everyone knows that country has been 
> corrupt to **** for the last hundred years anyway.

The first "gilded age" in america was turn of the century (1900) when
robber
barons arose. The railroad industry was as powerful as the oil industry
today.

> And yeah, I agree 
> with your points on the second amendment and I've pointed them out to 
> Americans a million times and they don't seem to get the point.
>
People dont want to believe bad things about our country :)
If we put all decisions to a vote of the people things would get done very
slowly perhaps but at least most of the rest of the world wouldnt hate us.
 
> America killed itself.

Ignorance is bliss and most people choose happieness :)


--
"I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of freedom of the
people
by gradual and silent encroachments by those in power than by violent and
sudden usurpations.... The means of defense against foreign danger
historically
have become the instruments of tyranny at home."
-James Madison