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Re: Ray Haddad: Fetal Amateur Magician to Half A Century of Experience as "Professional Magician" (was Re: Ray Haddad's Illusions Aren't Magic)

by Sylvia <sylvia@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Aug 23, 2007 at 02:26 AM

In article <1187657452.657156.236300@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
 mitchell_leary <mitchell_leary@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> Sylvia wrote:
> >  Ray Haddad <rhaddad@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
..
> >           "I've been performing magic professionally for over 40
years"
> >
> >                      -- Ray Haddad in 1999   
http://tinyurl.com/2peg6n
> >
> > Going by your claim that you were drafted into the US Army in 1970 
[1],
> > you, Ray Haddad, would have been (at the very most) in first or second
> > grade when you started performing as a "professional" magician.
<...>
> > So, Haddad, you were, what--a FETUS when you started as an amateur
> > magician? Or, did you develop yer trainin' quickly, starting at, say
age
> > two? Did it interfere with yer potty trainin'? No, never mind--don't
go
> > there--TMI.
<...>
> > And, did Mommy Haddad have to put you down for naps a lot durin' yer
> > professional performances around the world to keep ya from gettin'
> > cranky? This should be recorded for history, doncha know...
<...>
> > > This ought to be fun.
..
> > It's gonna be a whole lot more fun soon, Haddad. Stay tuned.
..
> Sylvia, do you know how old Ray is...

Do tell. I figure Ray Haddad's gotta be at least 247 years old in order 
to have had all of the full careers he's claimed to have had.

> I mean really is?  

Well, yeah, *really*... we get enough lies from Haddad, thanks.

> He's almost 80!  

      <making note>

Thenk yew, that fits claims and observations and it corroborates old 
(Official) MW Gossip Line information nicely.  So, Mitchell, is that a 
well known fact in Usenet magic circles?

> You're arguing with someone 

Oh, I'm not arguin' *with* Haddad. I post cited quotes of him wildly 
contradicting himself. No room for argument there. That's why he's 
desperately throwin' around stupid stalking accusations and mental 
health, Get A Life,  and "Nobody likes her" lames rather than address 
the issue.

> who's probably old enough to be your great grandfather.

      <nodding>

That could explain Haddad's constant confusion/delusions about his past, 
about his present, and about who I am:

Jun 3 2007:  Ray Haddad [re: Miz Sylvia]: " 'girlie' "

       Miz Sylvia:  "Oooooh! 'girlie'!    <chortle!>  Tell us, Haddad,
                           does callin' me stuff like that make ya feel
                           all big and tough? gawd, yer a pathetic
                           coward. Ya gonna email billo again and beg
                           him to defend you from 'girlies'?"  [1]

Aug 4 2007:   Ray Haddad:  '[...] old coot, Sylvia.  [2]

Aug 7 2007:   Ray Haddad [re: Miz Sylvia]:  She's a child, John.

                       Miz Sylvia:  "     <chortle!>   [...]"
 
                     Ray Haddad:  "I suffer children."

                       Miz Sylvia:  "What gall.

                               "<making note to add "Jesus" to
                                (Official) MW List of Haddadian
                                Adventures & Accomplishments>"
                        
> You really need to get yourself a man Sylvia.  

      <eye roll>

Oh, look! Another student of Ray Hadddad's Cowardly Use of *** as a 
Weapon Tactic! How far have you retreated in adapting other Haddadian 
traits? Tell us--does he award you badges? Is there a special secret 
"club" meeting place... mebbe in a tree with a sign that sez "n0 giRliEs 
ALl0Wed "? Oooh! Is there a SECRET knock and a SECRET handshake? Do you 
have to sell cookies door to door?  Wait, let me guess--Haddad sez you 
*must* refer to him as a "mentor", right? Do the guys in the back row 
snicker and call him a "mental", instead? No, really, you can trust 
us--mum's the word.

 > You may not know it but our buddy old Ray is your man of the moment.  

Oh, Haddad is more than that to us in misc.writing--you may not know it 
but your "buddy old Ray" won MW's Stupidest Poster of the Month contest 
so many times that... well, lookit:

    "The Committee has unanimously decided that the Stupidest MW 
       Poster of the Month contest will no longer be held. Instead the
       Committee has decided that, in recognition of his outstanding
       contributions, especially his ongoing stupid posts available for
       public live viewing in the 'Deconstructing MW' thread, a special
       tribute will be awarded.

     "Ladies and Gentlemen, it is my honour and privilege to present 
       to the Stupid Guy Ray Haddad the Lifetime Stupidest MW 
       Poster Award.

      "Ray Haddad, Ladies and Gentlemen, the LIFETIME
        STUPIDEST MW POSTER."

             --   Mr. RJM,  SMWP of the Month Committee Chairman  
                   http://tinyurl.com/2kbw8d

>Flame away 

Personally, I would not refer to quoting Ray Haddad's own words to prove 
him to be the deceitful, manipulating, blackmailing, scruple-less 
control freak that he as "flaming". A flame is more along the lines of:

      "The best sup****t you can give that fellow known as 
        Mitch Leary is to not try and sup****t him at all."

                          --   Ray Haddad   http://tinyurl.com/2ldvvk

> but like the shrinks say, 

      <chortle!>  Oh, dear...

> the thing you hate the most is something you once loved.

Really, Mitchell? Is that what they told you? Were you, perhaps, 
discussing something like this at the time:

     "I suggest that you stop trying to defame me and just accept 
      what I say about myself to be true, since it is. I accept that
      you are a drug using, alcoholic, obese, anarchistic non magician,
      since you said so. Does anyone else have any doubts now? 
      I don't think so."

                            --   Ray Haddad   http://tinyurl.com/2advcz

Or, perhaps it was this:

      "I understand you send a e-mail to almost everyone who takes 
       me on or posts something that you think would  start a war 
       with me.  Why don't you admit you're the phoney in this
       group.  You claim to have served in the U.S. military yet 
       somehow all of your records vanished and they said they've 
       never heard of you.  Several members of this group checked.
       Dishonorable discharge wasn't it Ray? You can't vote or own 
       a gun now.  Then theres the fact that you had to leave the 
       United States in a hurry and moved to Australia.  Did you 
       change your name?  

      "You can make me out to be the phoney, but all someone has 
       to do is start investigating you and they find out who the 
       real phoney is."

                 -- Mitchell Leary  to Ray Haddad 
                     "Ray Haddad's Military Service: Non-Existant"
                     http://tinyurl.com/yub3x9

> I think I smell smoke...holy **** her head just burst into flames!

      <staring>

       "Mitch, if this IS you, what's in that drink of yours 
         today? I've never sent an e-mail to anyone trying to
         sway them away from you, pal."

              --   Ray Haddad to Mitchell Leary re: Mitchells' thread:
                   "Ray Haddad's Military Service: Non-Existant"
                    http://tinyurl.com/ywmdzx

-- 
Sylvia

[1]  "Faux Combat Hero Ray Haddad Admits Fear of 'girlies'!"  
http://tinyurl.com/2ozozw
[2]    http://tinyurl.com/28snqv

    "Mitch,  Ye reap what ye sow, my revealing friend.

   "[...]  You can't have it both ways, Mitch. Either you want 
    and court the respect of the little beggar boys or you want 
    and court the respect of this industry's giants. You decided 
    long ago which you wanted and not you're snivelling about 
    them trying to somehow get back at you. The automatic 
    e-Bay responder warned you. 

    The next move is for e-Bay to contact Lee and Kenton 
    and when they tell their story, your personal details will 
    likely be provided to them.

   "At that point, its probably not too late for an apology 
    and/or a retraction of threats to be issued by the man 
    behind the name of Mitch Leary. Or, is it too late?"

               --  Ray Haddad   http://tinyurl.com/yung97
-------------------------------------------------

    Mr. Sloan:  "As a fraud you're terribly inept."

Ray Haddad:  "Because I'm not a fraud."

    Mr. Sloan:  "Of course you are.  

                       "Exposing your fraudulent claims is almost 
                         a misc.writing cottage industry."

Ray Haddad:  "As I stated, you are not capable of detecting either.

                                -- Ray Haddad insisting that he
                                    *is* a competent fraud, so there!  
                                     http://tinyurl.com/yuoch2
 




 8 Posts in Topic:
Ray Haddad: Fetal Amateur Magician to Half A Century of Experien
Sylvia <sylvia@[EMAIL   2007-08-20 14:49:42 
Re: Ray Haddad: Fetal Amateur Magician to Half A Century of Expe
"Andrw" <ask  2007-08-20 20:55:07 
Re: Ray Haddad: Fetal Amateur Magician to Half A Century of Expe
Jim Flanagan <jflan@[E  2007-08-20 19:11:13 
Re: Ray Haddad: Fetal Amateur Magician to Half A Century of Expe
Sylvia <sylvia@[EMAIL   2007-08-20 19:02:48 
Re: Ray Haddad: Fetal Amateur Magician to Half A Century of Expe
Sylvia <sylvia@[EMAIL   2007-08-22 16:47:13 
Re: Ray Haddad: Fetal Amateur Magician to Half A Century of Expe
mitchell_leary <mitche  2007-08-20 17:50:52 
Re: Ray Haddad: Fetal Amateur Magician to Half A Century of Expe
Sylvia <sylvia@[EMAIL   2007-08-23 02:26:52 
Re: Ray Haddad: Fetal Amateur Magician to Half A Century of Expe
"Koolchicki@[EMAIL P  2007-08-22 19:32:28 

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