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Re: The Long Awaited TRUTH About Ray Haddad's "I Bombed Hanoi in 1974" Claim: 'Twas MAGIC!

by Sylvia <sylvia@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Aug 25, 2007 at 03:05 AM

In article <9mguc3dujdpdfinsd5spme0uob4o1kec2e@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
 Ray Haddad <rhaddad@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

>  Sylvia wrote:

    "[...]  my only child under the age of 29 is living with 
     me [...]  still be sending my 29 year old  [...]"

                             -- Ray Haddad   Aug 23 2000   
                                  http://tinyurl.com/3ba2uu

   "I lost count after 6 kids and 5 grands."

             -- Ray Haddad  July 21 2003  
                 http://tinyurl.com/28zuuu

So, Haddad, that means that yer fifth of six children was born in 1971...

      <blink!>

         "I found myself in the US military after being drafted
          in 1970 and off to Vietnam for two tours as a volunteer."

                      -- Ray Haddad    http://tinyurl.com/2usz44

Gawd, Haddad! You had five children by the time you were 20 years old! 
You were... 14 years old when ya got married? 

      "Millions of students availed themselves of college 
       deferments. I did, too, but after two of them, my 
       luck ran out and I was drafted."

                 -- Ray Haddad   http://tinyurl.com/27cjpl

DUH!  Yer "luck ran out", Haddad? How the hell could you have been 
accepted to any college if ya weren't even bright enough to know that 
you could have had a deferment to begin with *because* of yer children? 
How stupid is that?

Wait a minute... are you LYING again, Ray Haddad?! There's no way you 
would have been drafted! Not ever. And, (supposing you actually were 
accepted despite bein' dumber than a rock) what the heck were ya doin' 
going to college full time when you had a wife and children to sup****t? 
Obviously poor Mrs. Haddad couldn't have been holdin' down a job--not 
with being pregnant most of the time and havin' all those little ones to 
care for.

You tried to pull the same thing here:

    "I worked for Chuck Martinez Magicians' World in San Diego 
     at their Escondido shop (which I managed) in 1974-75 and was 
     paid at whatever the prevailing minimum wage was at the time.

  "I also had a perk of having one of each item sold in the shop 
    given to me as part of becoming adept at demonstrating. This
    amounted to many, many items over the time I worked there. 
    I was a student at a US Navy school in San Diego at the time. 
    Since the shop was closed on Friday and Saturday nights 
    and all day Sunday, it didn't interfere with my performing
    schedule. My Navy cl***** started at 05:30 and ended at
    11:30 so I was able to open the shop at 12:00 daily."

             -- Ray Haddad, San Diego Minimum Wage Store Clerk
                 http://tinyurl.com/23pbwd

gawd! You don't even mention yer poor wife and children there--not even 
ONCE! Shamey, shamey, Haddad! What the hell are ya tryin' to pull with 
"Navy cl*****"? You were NEVER drafted, and nobody just takes part time 
cl***** to study to get into the Navy! Was that some ruse you pulled on 
poor Mrs. Haddad just so you could ooooh! get some free magic tricks by 
working a few hours a day as a minimum wage clerk when you had a WIFE 
and FIVE CHILDREN to sup****t?

And, what happened to yer "continuous" 40 year world tour as a 
professional magician wot ya claimed ya started when you were 9 years 
old? OMG! Was that ANOTHER lie, Ray Haddad?!

Oh, the humanity!

> >We know Haddad claimed his supposed bombing of Hanoi started some 
> >time after August 9 1974 and went on for two months, 
..
> I stated no such thing. 

You are such a lyin' weasel, Haddad.  

      "Did you ever hear of us going back to bomb Vietnam
        in 1974? Probably not. You were too nitwitted to even pick
        up a paper back then. I was in the Vietnam area in 1974
        with USS Ranger which bombed Hanoi after Nixon resigned.
        Look it up. Learn something for a change. "

                                            -- Ray Haddad, Valor Thief
                                             http://tinyurl.com/25r5jx

Nixon announced his resignation the evening of August 8 1974. Gerald 
Ford was sworn in as President the afternoon of August 9 1974.

> I stated that we drew two months of combat
> pay for that period. YOU drew the wrong conclusion.

Keep yer fantasies straight, Haddad.

     "We drew two months of combat pay and flew over Hanoi 
       and Haiphong Harbor daily for a few weeks. We did bomb 
       selected targets. USS Ranger air wing planes were involved."

                                         -- Ray Haddad, Valor Thief
                                             http://tinyurl.com/3xwa94


> Don't give up your day job, Sylvia.

      <laughing!>

You keep saying that, Haddad, but obviously you have no idea what the 
phrase means because (no surprise) once again yer makin' no sense.

Besides, *you're* a fine one to talk about day jobs, Ray Haddad, when 
you were braggin' how you took on a Minimum Wage Store Clerk job just to 
get a few free magic tricks when you had a WIFE and FIVE CHILDREN to 
sup****t! Pathetic, self-centered liar. 

        "Ray, where are you going? Did you get a REAL job yet?"

      "Oh, yeah... I got a part time gig with... with the US Navy! Yeah! 
That's the ticket! They need me for a couple of months to bomb Hanoi... 
daily, even...  I'm *very* im****tant, you know."

      "But, Ray, we're not at war with them anymore! You can't go 
bombing innocent civilians like that!"

      "You just don't understand MILITARY things. Let me worry about it. 
You just take care of those three kids, OK?

      "Five, Ray. We have five children."

      "Uhhh....   WHOOOOSH! Ha! Don't quit your day job!"

      "If only..."

-- 
Sylvia

    "Some sunny day when birds are singing and the sky is a 
      wonderful, bright blue, Ray will post something intelligent. 
      It could happen. 

      "Oh, look. A singing pig."

                              -- Chef Pastorio regarding Ray Haddad 
                                   http://tinyurl.com/2t7q2k

    Ray Haddad:  "Oh, dear. This is what happens when I 
                             torpedo your hatred with logic."

Mr. McClelland:  "Ray, you wouldn't know logic if it bit you in the
                            ass. All you ever do is deny, deny, deny."

                             http://tinyurl.com/2fcvwq
 




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Sylvia <sylvia@[EMAIL   2007-08-22 16:32:17 
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"RJM" <scrat  2007-09-04 11:09:30 
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