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[GAME OVER, MAN!] Ray Haddad's Usenet Fantasies Crumble: Part I -- The Fall of His Military "Career" Lies (was: Re: The Long Awaited TRUTH About Ray Haddad's "I Bombed Hanoi in 1974" Claim: 'Twas MAGIC!)

by Sylvia <sylvia@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Aug 31, 2007 at 03:34 AM

In article <3dpvc3h3t0dlv0qsbv5jabf0r383hbb96m@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
 Ray Haddad <rhaddad@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> Sylvia  instead replied:

      <UNsnip!>
>>     "[...]  my only child under the age of 29 is living with 
>>      me [...]  still be sending my 29 year old  [...]"
>> 
>>                              -- Ray Haddad   Aug 23 2000   
>>                                   http://tinyurl.com/3ba2uu
>> 
>>    "I lost count after 6 kids and 5 grands."
>> 
>>              -- Ray Haddad  July 21 2003  
>>                  http://tinyurl.com/28zuuu
>> 
>> So, Haddad, that means that yer fifth of six children was born in 
>> 1971...
<...>
>>          "I found myself in the US military after being drafted
>>           in 1970 and off to Vietnam for two tours as a volunteer."
>> 
>>                       -- Ray Haddad    http://tinyurl.com/2usz44
      </UNsnip!>
..
> Clearly, you have no idea about what you are writing.

      <chortle!>

That's *your* writing, Haddad, *your* claims. If you are *not* lying 
about your own children, and you are *not* lying about your "22 year 
military career", then you had five children by the time you were twenty 
years old, four children when you claimed that you lost your student 
deferment and got drafted in 1970...

.... oh, but wait! As a father of four, you could not have been drafted, 
so you, Ray Haddad, LIED about your "22 military career".

*  You never got drafted because that would have been impossible.

*  Your claim of being in the US Navy is based on your claim of being 
drafted in 1970, but you never got drafted... so you never joined the 
Navy or any other branch of the military.

*  Your claim of having been in combat in Vietnam is based on your 
having gotten drafted and joined the US Navy, BUT, Ray Haddad, you were 
never drafted to begin with, so you could not have gone to Vietnam on 
any US Navy aircraft carriers as you claimed.

*  Your (years of) archived claims of having been AWARDED MILITARY 
MEDALS is based on your claim of having fought in combat in Vietnam 
while in the US Navy, after you got drafted in 1970... BUT, you never 
got drafted.

Golly, Ray Haddad, you have been impersonating a US Serviceman--claiming 
to be "senior person", to boot, which means an *officer* in the US Navy. 
You, in writing, have claimed military awards that you never earned or 
received. You have claimed the valor of real United States Navy 
Veterans, some of whom gave up their lives doing what you lied about 
doing.  Yer disgustin' slime, Ray Haddad.

>   Give it up,  moron.

Heh! Sez the Stolen Valor Thief who claimed to have bombed Hanoi in 1974.
 
*  Your claim of spending two months flying over Hanoi on daily bombing 
missions was based on your claim of being in the US Navy, which was 
based on your claim of being drafted in 1970, BUT, Haddad--you were 
NEVER drafted.

      [ This space reserved for Sal towse and John Ashby to insist 
         that that doesn't mean that Ray Hadddad has NEVER stepped 
         foot on the USS Ranger.  ]

*  Your claim of rescuing people during the Fall of Saigon is built on 
your lies of a "22 year military career" that NEVER happened, Haddad, 
because you could NEVER have been drafted to begin with.

*  Your claim of being "ordered, along with an entire battle group plus 
some helicopters and some special forces troops to rescue some hostages 
in Iran a couple of decades ago" is built on those same "military 
career" lies of yours, Haddad. You were not "on the USS Nimitz at the 
time" and you do not have "have photos and memories and lost friends to 
prove it", Haddad.

*  Your claim of feeding starving people in Bangladesh is built on those 
same "military career" lies of yours, Haddad.

*  Your claim of having "pulled burned bodies from airplane crashes and 
gathered up pieces of same after a crash on the flight deck of the USS 
Nimitz in 1980" and then taking "a break between body recovery for a 
burger or two", and of valiantly putting out a magnesium fire (with *sea 
water*, yet) below decks of that ****p was a total pile of ridiculous 
lies, AND they were all built on those same "military career" lies of 
yours, Haddad.

*  Your claim of having "a direct involvement in both attacks on Libya 
having been stationed on USS Nimitz at the time" is built on those same 
"military career" lies of yours, Haddad.

* Your claim of crying along with the widows and mothers of servicemen 
killed in action when you supposedly broke the news to them as part of 
your duties as a Navy Officer is built on those same "military career" 
lies of yours, Haddad.

*  You did not tour with Bob Hope/USO Christmas shows as a magician on 
time off from being in the military because you were never drafted to 
begin with, Haddad. 

*  You did not dodge and kill snipers in Vietnam, Haddad. 

*  You did not stare into the eyes of men trying to kill you in combat 
in Vietnam, Haddad. 

*  You did not happen to run into an actress dressed only in a silk robe 
while mortar shells fell around you in Vietnam, Haddad. 

*  You did not have lunch with Senator McCain and give him a tour of the 
USS Nimitz, Haddad. 

*  You did not perform Magic Shows for orphans while in combat zones in 
the jungles of Vietnam, Haddad. 

*  You did not save an aircraft carrier from a hurricane, Haddad. 

*  You do not have a "service record in paper form [that] was about 400 
pages" when you retired from the Navy because you never got drafted to 
begin with, Haddad.

*  You did not "fire modified Phonix Missiles", Haddad.

*  You were never in "naval aviation", Haddad.

*  You were never in Memphis "for a year to learn electronics the US 
Navy way", Haddad.

*  You were never "trained on the computers and remote guidance systems 
for missiles and bomb directing computers on the RA-5C Vigilante, the 
A3D Skywarrior and A4 Skyhawk", Haddad.

*  You never "learned the F-14 system and became an instructor for the 
US Navy teaching many men and women how to do all that good stuff like 
keeping the world free by using and maintaining superior technology", 
Haddad.

*  You never "had Admiral Zumwalt's son" in your unit because you never 
belonged to a unit, Haddad.

* You have never "been to Canada as an OFFICIAL representative of the 
United States government" on "diplomatic orders", Haddad.

*  You have never served on "tem****ary duty on a Canadian war****p", 
Haddad.

*  You were never in "a photo recon squadron" or part of the "RVAH-13 - 
The Bats", Haddad.

*  You never did *any* of the things you claimed to have done in yer 
Stupid Military Career LIES, Haddad, because:


       "Your whole '22 year military career' is a farce."

                              --  Miz Sylvia  March 28  2007


      <running around Haddad and chanting>

           LIAR!  LIAR!  LIAR!
   BUSTED! BUSTED!  BUSTED! 


      "I worked for Chuck Martinez Magicians' World in San Diego 
       at their Escondido shop (which I managed) in 1974-75 and was 
       paid at whatever the prevailing minimum wage was at the time."
 
               -- Ray Haddad, San Diego Minimum Wage Store Clerk
                   http://tinyurl.com/23pbwd
  
      <UNsnip!>
>> gawd! You don't even mention yer poor wife and children there--not 
>> even ONCE! Shamey, shamey, Haddad! What the hell are ya tryin' to 
>> pull with "Navy cl*****"? You were NEVER drafted, and nobody just 
>> takes part time cl***** to study to get into the Navy! Was that some 
>> ruse you pulled on poor Mrs. Haddad just so you could ooooh! get 
>> some free magic tricks by working a few hours a day as a minimum 
>> wage clerk when you had a WIFE and FIVE CHILDREN to sup****t?
>> 
>> And, what happened to yer "continuous" 40 year world tour as a 
>> professional magician wot ya claimed ya started when you were 9 
>> years old? OMG! Was that ANOTHER lie, Ray Haddad?!
>> 
>> Oh, the humanity!
      </UNsnip!>

         "Why must it be asked? Who do you think you 
          are to question my service to my country?"

                            -- Ray Haddad, Stolen Valor Thief

ME! I'm ME!  Neener!

        "I just believe that if Kerry raises the issue of 
         his service, he ought to at least stand up to the 
         scrutiny that he invited. "

                    -- Ray Haddad, the Epitome of Hypocrisy

      <running around Haddad and chanting>

           LIAR!  LIAR!  LIAR!
   BUSTED! BUSTED!  BUSTED! 
   
-- 
Sylvia

   "[...] Congress passed 'The Stolen Valor Act of 2005,' which 
     makes it illegal not only to wear unauthorized medals but also 
     to make verbal or WRITTEN CLAIMS of being a recipient of
     military medals."            
                                 -- ABC News http://tinyurl.com/ygo8lu

     "I was a combatant. I earned my medals. You can have them
       when I die, if you want. Until then, I'm very proud of them."

                      -- Ray Haddad, Stolen Valor Thief
                          http://tinyurl.com/2je2sd

         "I earned every medal I was awarded"

                      -- Ray Haddad, Stolen Valor Thief
                           http://tinyurl.com/2qrew9

   "She watches this with amusement, as any good retired 
     military wife would do. [...] She's seen my medals. Touched 
     them, even. She's been with me to see ****pmates of mine. 
     Life is good down under."

                      -- Ray Haddad, Stolen Valor Thief
                          http://tinyurl.com/3dtea9

    "It's not as easy as you think to volunteer for combat duty. 
     I was asked, and I stepped up to the plate without hesitation."

                      -- Ray Haddad, Stolen Valor Thief
                          http://tinyurl.com/39hjeo

   "That and my 22 years of voluntary and honorable military service
     to the United States of America doing my bit to preserve your
     freedoms allows me to call myself a patriot. Each year for all of
     those 22 years, I swore an oath to uphold, protect and defend
     the Constitution of the United States of America, so help me
      God. I did my bit."

                      -- Ray Haddad, Stolen Valor Thief
                           http://tinyurl.com/2wgv5w


      "I fought a real enemy in a real war and had real
       snipers shooting at me. I survived and many of them
       didn't. For your sake, leave it at that. I'd hate to
       see you getting into a lather over my combat record.
       What war were you in, Alan?"

                    -- Ray Haddad, Stolen Valor Thief
                        http://tinyurl.com/3co89m
 




 24 Posts in Topic:
[GAME OVER, MAN!] Ray Haddad's Usenet Fantasies Crumble: Part
Sylvia <sylvia@[EMAIL   2007-08-31 03:34:25 
Re: [GAME OVER, MAN!] Ray Haddad's Usenet Fantasies Crumble: Par
mitchell_leary <mitche  2007-08-31 03:38:11 
Re: [GAME OVER, MAN!] Ray Haddad's Usenet Fantasies Crumble: Par
Sylvia <sylvia@[EMAIL   2007-09-02 18:29:43 
Re: [GAME OVER, MAN!] Ray Haddad's Usenet Fantasies Crumble: Par
Ray Haddad <rhaddad@[E  2007-09-03 07:49:41 
Re: [GAME OVER, MAN!] Ray Haddad's Usenet Fantasies Crumble: Par
Sylvia <sylvia@[EMAIL   2007-09-02 22:34:08 
Re: [GAME OVER, MAN!] Ray Haddad's Usenet Fantasies Crumble: Par
Ray Haddad <rhaddad@[E  2007-09-03 11:41:18 
Re: [GAME OVER, MAN!] Ray Haddad's Usenet Fantasies Crumble:
Ray Haddad <rhaddad@[E  2007-08-31 19:50:30 
Re: [GAME OVER, MAN!] Ray Haddad's Usenet Fantasies Crumble:
Sylvia <sylvia@[EMAIL   2007-09-02 17:05:38 
Re: [GAME OVER, MAN!] Ray Haddad's Usenet Fantasies Crumble:
Ray Haddad <rhaddad@[E  2007-09-03 07:01:13 
Re: Ray Haddad's Usenet Fantasies Crumble: Part I -- The Fall of
Mark Lewis <Scottishso  2007-08-31 04:53:21 
Re: Ray Haddad's Usenet Fantasies Crumble: Part I -- The Fall of
Ray Haddad <rhaddad@[E  2007-08-31 19:59:47 
Re: Ray Haddad's Usenet Fantasies Crumble: Part I -- The Fall of
"Burr" <pitz  2007-09-01 10:38:00 
Re: Ray Haddad's Usenet Fantasies Crumble: Part I -- The Fall of
Sylvia <sylvia@[EMAIL   2007-09-05 13:37:58 
Re: Ray Haddad's Usenet Fantasies Crumble: Part I -- The Fall of
Pies de Arcilla <dearc  2007-08-31 09:00:46 
Re: Ray Haddad's Usenet Fantasies Crumble: Part I -- The Fall of
Ray Haddad <rhaddad@[E  2007-09-01 04:17:54 
Re: Ray Haddad's Usenet Fantasies Crumble: Part I -- The Fall of
Sylvia <sylvia@[EMAIL   2007-09-02 17:55:02 
Re: Ray Haddad's Usenet Fantasies Crumble: Part I -- The Fall of
Sylvia <sylvia@[EMAIL   2007-09-02 17:36:26 
Re: Ray Haddad's Usenet Fantasies Crumble: Part I -- The Fall of
Mark Lewis <Scottishso  2007-09-02 17:05:40 
Re: Ray Haddad's Usenet Fantasies Crumble: Part I -- The Fall of
Ray Haddad <rhaddad@[E  2007-09-03 11:11:50 
Re: Ray Haddad's Usenet Fantasies Crumble: Part I -- The Fall of
"Stan (the Man)"  2007-09-03 13:32:15 
Re: Ray Haddad's Usenet Fantasies Crumble: Part I -- The Fall of
Ray Haddad <rhaddad@[E  2007-09-03 23:10:40 
Re: Ray Haddad's Usenet Fantasies Crumble: Part I -- The Fall of
Sylvia <sylvia@[EMAIL   2007-09-05 20:41:58 
Re: Ray Haddad's Usenet Fantasies Crumble: Part I -- The Fall of
Sylvia <sylvia@[EMAIL   2007-09-05 14:55:02 
Re: Ray Haddad's Usenet Fantasies Crumble: Part I -- The Fall of
Sylvia <sylvia@[EMAIL   2007-09-06 02:01:36 

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