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Re: The Long Awaited TRUTH About Ray Haddad's "I Bombed Hanoi in 1974" Claim: 'Twas MAGIC!

by Sylvia <sylvia@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sep 23, 2007 at 07:23 AM

In article <danrd3d7lki88md2f5sg7ct3e7olfukbhm@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
 Ray Haddad <rhaddad@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> RJM" wrote:
> >"Ray Haddad" <rhaddad@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
> >>  "RJM"wrote:
..
> >>>I suggest that Ray is handling you with the plausibility and
intellectual
> >>>bankruptcy of his example.
..
> >> Just as Sylvia is handling you.

      <stunned!>

> >Really? She rarely addresses me. 

      <strutting back and forth>

Cool! Apparently I'm *that* POWERFUL!

      <strutting forth and back, too, just for good measure>

> >You, though, address me regularly. I see through the plausibility of 
> >your character, and I'm scornful of your intellectual worth, Stupid 
> >Guy.
..
> Yet she manages to get your sup****t. 

      <strutting even *more* proudly>

BWAH HA HA HA HA HA!

      <using best Old Time Announcer's V.O.>

     "Faster than a speeding... hamster! More powerful than a Fourier 
Transform Ion Cyclotron Resonance Mass Spectrometer (if I unplug it)!  
Able to leap tall buildings... well, good-sized hotels... on a Monopoly 
(tm) board... at a single bound  (with a running start)! 

     "   'Look! Up in the sky!'    'It's a Baby Parrot'   'It's a (USS 
Ranger Air Wing) plane!'    'It's...  it's...  Look! Under the coffee 
table! It's The Two-Foot-Two Supreme Ruler of MW!'  "

    "Yes, it's The Supreme Ruler of MW...  petite, kinda sorta strange 
visitor from a creative mind (or the effects of an undigested bit of 
beef)  who came to  misc.writing  with bubkus, but had powers and 
abilities far beyond those of mortal peeps thrust upon her (she mistook 
them for PRESENTS)! The Supreme Ruler, who can reach Across the Pond and 
change the course of Mr. RJM's posting, and who--"

> Does this mean you do it for no reason at all? 

      <staring at Haddad>

      <annoyed>

HELLO? You just endowed me with *more* SUPER POWERs, remember?

      <tugging on Mr. RJM's sleeve>

I'm... I'm *that* POWERFUL, just like Haddad said... right, Mr. RJM?

      <waiting>

Mr. RJM?

         <eyes welling up with tiny tears>

Haddad was *lyin'* again, wasn't he, Mr. RJM? He was just bein' *mean*!

      <(delicately) dabbing at eyes with a lovely linen hankie>

I thought I'd get to keep my POWERS. I thought, mebbe, this time...

      <slipping into song>

  "Maybe this time, I'llllll be lucky
   Maybe this time, they will staaaaay!
   Maybe this time
   For the *first* tiiime--"

> You see, 

dammit, Haddad! You interrupted my crescendo approach!  

> the folk in the magic newsgroups aren't being handled by me, you oaf. 

Scales fallin' off some more eyes over there, Haddad?    Oooh! Magic!

    "Always praise other magicians when speaking to a lay person. [...]

    "Now, before you or anybody else goes off on me for this being 
      my 'opinion,' remember that it is an opinion based on over 40
      years in this business of performing. [...]

     "None of what I said here is optional. You must do that all the
      time in public. "   
                                -- Ray Haddad  http://tinyurl.com/yo2rbd
                                     Subject:  "Dear Miss Manners"

      "What gives you the right to put a magician with 40+ years
        experience in any place at all?     

                                -- Ray Haddad   http://tinyurl.com/2u2qld
                                  Subject:  "You're a silly boy, Ray"

     "My ego doesn't come into play here in the newsgroups, as MS 
       has decided. In fact, it's often just the opposite. [...]

     "My ego is case hardened by 40 years of performing on stage."

                             -- Ray Haddad    http://tinyurl.com/3b5rhv

> They manage to think on their own

      "I do have better than 40 years of experience in this business
       whether you like it or not and if there are some who want to
       learn from it, fine. If you personally don't, that's also fine.
       Just don't argue that I wear my experience like a badge."

             -- Ray Haddad, *waving* his Fake "40+ years" of Experience
                 around like a badge   http://tinyurl.com/2tzfuw

[NOTE:  See  "Ray Haddad's Decades of Experience Magically Shrink Before 
Your Eyes!"  http://tinyurl.com/2xbhtr
]

> without the aid of Sylvia. 
<...>
      <chortle!>  

What some of the Magic Group peeps are postin' to MW about Haddad:

Ray Haddad:  "This is my form of relaxation, to read and post 
                        here, John.  [...]"
..
         Ed:   "Y'know what Ray? I was trying to be on your side.
                   I thought; we're dealing with events from 30+
                   years ago, it's possible that Ray is actually correct
                   but a little mixed up on dates or even simply
                   exaggerating as such. I even posted on one of these
                   threads that maybe you're the cyber equivelant of
                   someone's Grampa, sitting on the ****ch reminicing on
                   how he single handedly 'won the war!' But now, you've
                   just said you like to "relax" by posting delibertly
                   ambigous statements designed to annoy people. That's
                   the earmark of a classic troll. [...]"
-------------------------

Miz Sylvia:  "[...]    <turning to the accused>   Haddad? What say you?"

                    "  'I agree and admit that I use any means to put
                         forth my views.'

                     "        - - Ray Haddad  http://tinyurl.com/2on9sw

                     "   <slamming down petite gavel>

                     " Ray Haddad is GUILTY!  GUILTY!  GUILTY!
                       and *most* deserving of his reputation  
                       'as a ****witted liar'. "

Iam who Iam:  "All right! Sylvia, I have a new hero in magic! "

[  Thread:  "Testimonials on Ray Haddad's Propensity for Lying"  
http://tinyurl.com/25pwac
]
----------------------------------------------

Miz Sylvia:  "So, Haddad, you were, what--a FETUS when you
                      started as an amateur magician? Or, did you
                      develop yer trainin' quickly, starting at, say age
                      two? Did it interfere with yer potty trainin'?
                      No, never mind--don't go there--TMI.  So, do tell
                      us, Haddad, which magic tricks can a fetus handle?"
[...]
       Andrw:  "completely committed to the cause. Andrw "

Jim Flanagan:  "I am finding this *extremely* entertaining!!
                         Thanks for the laughs..."

[Thread:   "Ray Haddad: Fetal Amateur Magician to Half A Century of
Experience as 'Professional Magician' " http://tinyurl.com/265zup
 ]
-------------------------------------------------------

    Miz Sylvia:  "   [  Ray Haddad's "military career" lie of
                                having bombed Hanoi in 1974
                                http://tinyurl.com/3cofem
 ]   "

Maxwell LOL:  "Verified. Checking Ray's profile shows he has
                          posted more than 30 thousand messages. Must
                          have a lot of free time..... "

http://tinyurl.com/32xeha



-- 
Sylvia     <checking Yellow Pages (tm) for SUPER POWER Mongers>

 
Mr. McClelland :  "Hey, if you don't want to be labelled as one of 
                             the gang-****ers, stop gang-****ing."

     Ray Haddad:  "Who gave you the label gun, laddie?"

Mr. McClelland :  "I borrowed yours."
--------------------------------------------------

 * * * An (Official) MW Double-Take/<CHORTLE!> Moment:  * * *

    Josh Hill:  "Alan was criticizing a gang****er, Gekko. You, OTOH,
                      flock to gang****s the way sparrows flock to seed."

Ray Haddad:  "And you can't find anyone to join your gang so you 
                        attempt it alone."
 




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[FOIA] The Long Awaited TRUTH About Ray Haddad's "I Bombed Hano
Sylvia <sylvia@[EMAIL   2007-08-22 16:32:17 
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Sylvia <sylvia@[EMAIL   2007-08-22 21:47:41 
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Sylvia <sylvia@[EMAIL   2007-08-25 03:05:47 
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Ed <edrhodes@[EMAIL PR  2007-09-03 07:46:17 
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Ed <edrhodes@[EMAIL PR  2007-09-05 20:31:20 
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Alan Hope <usenet.iden  2007-09-07 10:03:13 
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Mark Lewis <Scottishso  2007-09-03 14:20:00 
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Ray Haddad <rhaddad@[E  2007-09-04 06:24:56 
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Ed <edrhodes@[EMAIL PR  2007-09-03 21:05:46 
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"RJM" <scrat  2007-09-04 07:32:17 
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Ray Haddad <rhaddad@[E  2007-09-04 16:15:18 
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Josh Hill <usereplyto@  2007-09-04 14:16:52 
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Alan Hope <usenet.iden  2007-09-04 22:57:56 
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"William Cuntsler&qu  2007-09-05 11:55:29 
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Alan Hope <usenet.iden  2007-09-05 18:36:03 
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Josh Hill <usereplyto@  2007-09-05 17:51:34 
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Alan Hope <usenet.iden  2007-09-06 01:35:37 
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Ray Haddad <rhaddad@[E  2007-09-06 08:09:25 
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Alan Hope <usenet.iden  2007-09-07 10:03:39 
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Ray Haddad <rhaddad@[E  2007-09-07 17:24:07 
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Alan Hope <usenet.iden  2007-09-07 22:11:41 
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Ray Haddad <rhaddad@[E  2007-09-08 06:35:34 
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"Stan (the Man)"  2007-09-07 18:45:30 
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Alan Hope <usenet.iden  2007-09-08 01:54:14 
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Ray Haddad <rhaddad@[E  2007-09-08 09:42:59 
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Josh Hill <usereplyto@  2007-09-07 13:31:36 
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Alan Hope <usenet.iden  2007-09-07 22:12:15 
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Josh Hill <usereplyto@  2007-09-07 17:35:06 
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Josh Hill <usereplyto@  2007-09-05 21:29:27 
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"John Ashby" &l  2007-09-06 05:50:29 
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Josh Hill <usereplyto@  2007-09-06 11:22:47 
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John Ashby <J.V.Ashby@  2007-09-06 16:28:23 
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Alan Hope <usenet.iden  2007-09-07 17:12:48 
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Josh Hill <usereplyto@  2007-09-07 14:08:10 
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Alan Hope <usenet.iden  2007-09-07 22:15:15 
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Josh Hill <usereplyto@  2007-09-07 17:42:49 
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Alan Hope <usenet.iden  2007-09-08 15:10:44 
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Josh Hill <usereplyto@  2007-09-08 17:57:39 
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"RJM" <scrat  2007-09-04 21:10:35 
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Josh Hill <usereplyto@  2007-09-05 18:45:31 
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"RJM" <scrat  2007-09-06 16:37:04 
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Josh Hill <usereplyto@  2007-09-06 14:22:05 
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Ed <edrhodes@[EMAIL PR  2007-09-14 21:48:30 
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Ed <edrhodes@[EMAIL PR  2007-09-04 02:09:28 
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"RJM" <scrat  2007-09-04 09:23:49 
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Ray Haddad <rhaddad@[E  2007-09-04 18:56:50 
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"RJM" <scrat  2007-09-04 11:09:30 
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Ray Haddad <rhaddad@[E  2007-09-05 06:35:13 
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"Stan (the Man)"  2007-09-04 23:21:12 
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Ray Haddad <rhaddad@[E  2007-09-05 07:40:51 
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"Stan (the Man)"  2007-09-04 23:52:09 
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"William Cuntsler&qu  2007-09-05 11:57:34 
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"RJM" <scrat  2007-09-05 09:46:07 
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Ray Haddad <rhaddad@[E  2007-09-05 20:59:01 
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"RJM" <scrat  2007-09-05 14:13:12 
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Ray Haddad <rhaddad@[E  2007-09-06 03:36:24 
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"RJM" <scrat  2007-09-06 16:37:04 
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Ray Haddad <rhaddad@[E  2007-09-07 06:55:34 
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Sylvia <sylvia@[EMAIL   2007-09-23 07:23:52 
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Ed <edrhodes@[EMAIL PR  2007-09-04 18:02:53 
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Ray Haddad <rhaddad@[E  2007-09-05 10:43:19 
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"RJM" <scrat  2007-09-05 09:46:07 
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Ed <edrhodes@[EMAIL PR  2007-09-04 18:07:14 
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Ray Haddad <rhaddad@[E  2007-09-05 10:44:05 
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Alan Hope <usenet.iden  2007-09-05 18:35:05 
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Ed <edrhodes@[EMAIL PR  2007-09-05 02:16:22 
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Ed <edrhodes@[EMAIL PR  2007-09-05 10:16:52 
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"RJM" <scrat  2007-09-05 17:23:53 
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Ed <edrhodes@[EMAIL PR  2007-09-05 10:20:17 
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Alan Hope <usenet.iden  2007-09-06 01:24:03 
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Ed <edrhodes@[EMAIL PR  2007-09-05 20:28:54 
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Josh Hill <usereplyto@  2007-09-06 11:28:56 
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Alan Hope <usenet.iden  2007-09-07 17:15:27 
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Josh Hill <usereplyto@  2007-09-07 14:54:35 
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Alan Hope <usenet.iden  2007-09-07 22:25:15 
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Josh Hill <usereplyto@  2007-09-07 18:10:32 
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Alan Hope <usenet.iden  2007-09-08 15:16:22 
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Josh Hill <usereplyto@  2007-09-08 18:48:15 
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Alan Hope <usenet.iden  2007-09-09 19:56:51 
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Josh Hill <usereplyto@  2007-09-09 15:33:47 
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Alan Hope <usenet.iden  2007-09-09 22:21:49 
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Josh Hill <usereplyto@  2007-09-09 16:35:18 
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Alan Hope <usenet.iden  2007-09-09 23:38:29 
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Ray Haddad <rhaddad@[E  2007-09-10 06:31:15 
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Josh Hill <usereplyto@  2007-09-09 23:14:29 
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Josh Hill <usereplyto@  2007-09-09 23:11:00 
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Alan Hope <usenet.iden  2007-09-10 08:56:27 
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Skipper <skipspamless@  2007-09-10 06:11:08 
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Alan Hope <usenet.iden  2007-09-10 17:18:20 
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Josh Hill <usereplyto@  2007-09-10 13:31:39 
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Josh Hill <usereplyto@  2007-09-10 13:07:53 
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Alan Hope <usenet.iden  2007-09-10 20:29:07 
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