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Ed <edrhodes@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Sylvia wrote:
> > Ed <edrho...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
<...>
> > "And immediately there fell from his eyes as it had been scales:
> > and he received sight forthwith" Acts 9:18
> >
> > But, it turns out that Ray Haddad is, indeed, a compulsive liar.
..
> > > now, you've just said you like to "relax" by posting delibertly
> > > ambigous statements designed to annoy people.
..
> > "I agree and admit that I use any means to put forth my views."
> >
> > -- Ray Haddad in MW
> >
> > This, Ed, is *not* ambiguous:
> >
> > Ray Haddad has clearly bragged about using salt water to fight a huge
> > mass of burning magnesium below decks after a plane crash on the USS
> > Nimitz. [1] Ed, that is *impossible*, he would have caused a hydrogen
> > explosion... inside a nuclear-powered ****p. That's basic chemistry.
> > Among many other facts he got wrong about that crash (like the year),
> > there were *no* magnesium fires. BUT, Haddad is not just a stupid
liar...
> >
> > Ray Haddad described his supposed fellow ****pmates who died due to the
> > crash in this way:
> >
> > "Those guys were fresh but crispy." [2]
> >
> > That is not "ambiguous", Ed. That is not clever, nor is it "annoying".
> > That is an incredibly vile thing to say about the horrible deaths of
> > REAL US servicemen. That he doesn't even understand *why* it was vile
> > shows that Ray Haddad is totally lacking in any real sense of decency.
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> > > But now, you've just said you like to "relax- by posting
> > > delibertly ambigous statements designed to annoy people."
> > > That's the earmark of a classic troll.
..
> > Well, no. Look at my footnote. Ray Haddad thought he was being *funny*
> > when he said that. *That's* his "form of relaxation"? Was that his big
> > Master Plan? To "annoy" people by making them react to him personally
in
> > disgust?
<...>
> > Ed, you got yourself past the blind acceptance wall of "there must be
> > some explanation for why Ray Haddad *appears* to be lying... it's got
to
> > be the *other* person/people". Congrats. You established that, all the
> > time you have put yourself on the line defending him, Haddad *has*
been
> > deliberately lying, and that he admits that he does so with the
> > intention of upsetting other people--merely for his own amusement.
> >
> > 'K, now, look at how he goes beyond that, look at his reputation for
> > getting really nasty while calling himself a "gentleman".
<...>
> > > I think Silvia is a "psycho hose beast" in her over-reaction to
> > > you,
..
> > Oh, dear...
> >
> > <peering at Ed's eye's>
> >
> > <offering Ed a lovely hankie and pointing with carrot stick>
> >
> > You've got some scales still stuck, right... right there...
<...>
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> No scales stuck anywhere Sylvia. You're the one with the beam stuck in
> your eye
*What* beam, Ed? Cite.
> as you try to pick the mote out of mine.
You said that you still believed Ray Haddad's "delibertly ambigous
statements" claim. I just quoted and cited a couple of examples that
disproves that claim. They prove that Ray Haddad was flat out *lying*.
> Incidently, tropical storm 10 just hit the Florida panhandle. Minor
> storm by any consideration,
Well, no, it wasn't a "minor storm by any consideration" Ed. It was a
mid-weight tropical storm. But, being struck by a tropical storm is
*not* the same as being struck by a hurricane.
> and it managed to uproot trees.
Yes, Ed, I live on the Gulf Coast and I've lived in SE Florida, I'm well
aware of what high winds can to trees with shallow root systems,
especially trees planted in our sand/clay composite soil. So what?
> I notice after people brought up the fact that at least one hurricane
(Dave)
> hit Virgina in the 1970s
No, Ed, that is not a fact. You've been had, Ed. Point out exactly where
you *noticed* where at least one of these "people brought up" something
that convinced you to publicly state that it's a "fact" that Virginia
was struck by a hurricane during the 1970's (a *real* record, Ed--not
quoting Ray Haddad or one of his enablers).
Here, again, is *my* source, Ed (the United States Government's National
Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration's page on Late Twentieth Century
Storms in the State of Virginia). See if you can find proof of a
hurricane striking Virginia during the 1970's there:
http://www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov/research/roth/valate20hur.htm
> and that minor storms are quite capable of
> uprooting trees (which could then damage cars)
That's nice, Ed. That isn't at all what Ray Haddad claimed, now is it?
Or, did you not even bother to see what he claimed?
> you haven't mentioned that part of your diatribe again.
I am not aware of having posted a "diatribe", Ed. Please cite.
> Mind you, I don't think you ever acknowledged you were wrong...
That's because I was *not* wrong, Ed, as I have proved.
> you just never mentioned it again.
I posted about Haddad's claim of supposed hurricane damage to Norfolk
during the 1970's again, Ed. About the tree. This month. In this same
thread. Right here: http://tinyurl.com/2uu3n9
I re-quoted Ray Haddad's bit about the tree:
"When I got back, I discovered a tree had fallen smack
into the middle of my car which was parked over 100
yards from the tree on the base at Norfolk. A clearly
defined path showed where it traversed the parking lot
damaging cars along the way."
--Excerpt, Ray Haddad lies about Saving an Aircraft
Carrier from Hurricane http://tinyurl.com/yo5gwu
And added this comment:
"Note that to rip a huge tree out of the ground and hurl it
the length of a football field, especially with the drag of
'damaging cars along the way' before landing it on top of
his car, Haddad's Fantasy Hurricane would need the
strength of a CAT 5 hurricane: winds at *over* 155 MPH. "
See how that's a *lot* different than your "it managed to uproot trees"
bit, Ed? He wasn't the least bit "ambiguous" in his description, now was
he? Ray Haddad got you to fight his fight again and he made a fool of
you again, Ed.
--
Sylvia
[1] Requiem for the Deluded http://tinyurl.com/2924od
[2]
Miz Eliska: "any ideas on how to get rid of the smoke smell? I soaked
in bubble bath, washed with scented soap, slathered
myself with luscious lotion and I still smell smoke."
Ray Haddad: "Vicks Vapo-Rub (tm) works great."
Mr. Stan: "That's for long-dead, decomposing bodies, you twit."
Ray Haddad: "Isn't that what smoked meat is? Last time I looked
inside my smoker, that chicken, ****k and beef
were long dead and I was aiding the decomposition
by smokin' those babies! Yum!"
[WARNING: Ray Haddad now goes from stupid/gross to mind-boggling
insensitive/disgusting]
Ray Haddad: "[...] I had the grave displeasure of having to remove a
few charred bodies from a military crash on the
flight deck of an aircraft carrier once. Those
guys were fresh but crispy. Vicks made all the
difference."
Mr. Stan: "I didn't read this." http://tinyurl.com/359tkc
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