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Re: Illusions for a show ???

by Ray Haddad <ray@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 23, 2008 at 12:13 PM

On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 20:06:01 -0700 (PDT), I said, "Pick a card, any
card" and Al Hastings <magic4you@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> instead replied:

>On Apr 21, 4:01 pm, Ray Haddad <r...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>>. Also, I truly believe it
>> is one of the last remaining guilds in existence.
>> Mentoring.
>
>Magic is -not- a guild. Cardini, Vernon, Slydini, Houdini, Thurston,
>Blackstone, Kellar..never had mentors.  The romantic idea of secrets
>passed down like heirlooms is just that - an idea.

Sorry, they all had mentors. Every one of them.

>Mentoring for the sake of learning to selling yourself, marketing, and
>maybe character development, i'll agree. No small business can be
>without it. I only wish I had -that- advice when I first started.

Book authors, DVD authors and teachers are all mentors, mate.
Whether you learn magic from any of those sources is being mentored.
The point is that there is no legion of university degrees or
colleges for learning magic. There are exactly 2 that I know of and
neither of them is teaching magic full time.

>Magic as a guild, protecting secrets, old masters - bull ****.  Seek
>and you will find.

But when you find the answer, it came from someone else. A mentor.
Willing or not, the teachers are mentors.

>I love you Ray (in a non-homo way), this is the area were I cannot see
>your argument for this issue.

It's not an argument. Don't turn it into one. I am speaking from all
the experience in the world on the topic.
--
Ray
 




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Andy@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-03 00:01:18 
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Al Hastings <magic4you  2008-04-02 22:22:55 
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Andy <Andy@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-03 09:27:27 
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Andy <Andy@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-03 09:36:10 
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Ray Haddad <ray@[EMAIL  2008-04-03 23:53:20 
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Peter <Peter@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-03 12:21:15 
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Ray Haddad <ray@[EMAIL  2008-04-05 08:08:37 
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Al Hastings <magic4you  2008-04-04 18:35:16 
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louiefoxx@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-04-03 09:54:54 
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Al Hastings <magic4you  2008-04-03 20:09:13 
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MJ <MJsMagic@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-03 20:19:29 
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Al Hastings <magic4you  2008-04-03 20:47:13 
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Al Hastings <magic4you  2008-04-03 20:51:07 
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Lukan <gret@[EMAIL PRO  2008-04-05 09:51:39 
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Lukan <uiop@[EMAIL PRO  2008-04-05 09:47:57 
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"John Morrissy"  2008-04-13 14:28:16 
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louiefoxx@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-04-14 10:15:09 
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Lukan <gremt@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-15 23:49:47 
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Andy   2008-04-16 21:40:34 
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Al Hastings <magic4you  2008-04-18 00:35:42 
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Andy <Andy@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-18 11:37:49 
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Peter <>   2008-04-18 15:53:07 
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Eric Haddix <REMOVE-CA  2008-04-18 18:09:04 
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Ray Haddad <ray@[EMAIL  2008-04-19 06:37:28 
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Andy   2008-04-18 21:01:25 
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Eric Haddix <REMOVE-CA  2008-04-18 22:49:17 
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Ray Haddad <ray@[EMAIL  2008-04-19 15:43:46 
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Andy <Andy@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-20 16:59:23 
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Ray Haddad <ray@[EMAIL  2008-04-19 15:43:05 
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Al Hastings <magic4you  2008-04-22 21:58:41 
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Al Hastings <magic4you  2008-04-22 22:19:10 
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Ray Haddad <ray@[EMAIL  2008-04-23 13:58:54 
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Al Hastings <magic4you  2008-04-22 20:06:01 
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Ray Haddad <ray@[EMAIL  2008-04-23 12:13:04 
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Maxwell Lol <nospam@[E  2008-04-23 05:59:35 
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Al Hastings <magic4you  2008-04-23 04:00:10 
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Al Hastings <magic4you  2008-04-18 19:30:37 
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Andy <Andy@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-20 17:18:08 
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Ray Haddad <ray@[EMAIL  2008-04-21 05:47:37 
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Andy   2008-04-20 22:10:20 
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Jack Poulter <jpoulter  2008-04-20 20:21:51 
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Andy <Andy@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-21 09:34:49 
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Ray Haddad <ray@[EMAIL  2008-04-22 05:01:19 
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Al Hastings <magic4you  2008-04-23 00:55:33 
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Al Hastings <magic4you  2008-04-22 23:51:05 
Re: Illusions for a show ???
Ray Haddad <ray@[EMAIL  2008-04-23 14:58:05 

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