"Glenn \(Christian Mystic\)" <christianmystic@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "tlaloc" <tlaloc23nospamhere@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > Glenn (Christian Mystic) wrote:
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> > >> There are lots of self centered vegetarians who
> > >> do little more than contemplate their navels, and there are meat
> > >> eaters who make tremendous contributions to the human family.
> > >> 'What comes out of our mouths is more im****tant that what goes in.'
> > >> AABailey
> > >
> > > Christ said the same.
> >
> > Please be so kind to provide sources and quotations.
>
> Sure,
> Matt.15:11 "Not that which goes into the mouth defiles a man; but that
which
> comes out of the mouth, this defiles a man" (read the whole chapter for
> context)
>
> > Thanks.
>
> You welcome
I agree with that scripture in the context that it isn't the highest
of morality to be vegetarian. It is a lower goal, but a goal for
spiritual aspirants nonetheless. Some people here think
otherwise....like being vegetarian is the highest of spiritual morals
or something absurd like that.
Of course you must also remember the book of Daniel. Daniel in the
Bible WAS vegetarian UNLIKE the magicians of Babylon. He refused to
eat the meat that was offered to him and the king was amazed to find
that he (Daniel) was much stronger and healthier as a result of his
vegetarian diet. Also IMO it was his vegetarian diet that saved him
from the lions den. The Golden Rule "Do unto others as you would have
done to you" was what I think saved him from the lions killing him.
He didn't eat animals and therefore they didn't eat him....just
another opinion.
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From the Yoga Sutra:
When in the presence of one established in nonviolence, there is the
abandonment of hostility.
ahimsa-pratistayam tat-samnidhau vira-tyagah
http://www.santosha.com/philosophy/sadhana-pada4.html
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Proper diet is one of the 5 fundamental points of Yoga as taught by
Swami Vishnu-devananda founder/Guru of the International Sivananda
Yoga Vedanta Centers.
The yogic diet is a vegetarian one, consisting of pure, simple,
natural foods which are easily digested and promote health. Simple
meals aid the digestion and assimilation of foods. Nutritional
requirements fall under five categories: protein, carbohydrates,
minerals, fats and vitamins. One should have a certain knowledge of
dietetics in order to balance the diet. Eating foods first-hand from
nature, grown in fertile soil (preferably organic, free from chemicals
and pesticides) will help ensure a better supply of these nutritional
needs. Processing, refining and overcooking destroy much food value.
There is a cycle in nature known as the "food cycle" or "food chain".
The Sun is the source of energy for all life on our planet; it
nourishes the plants (the top of the food chain) which are then eaten
by animals (vegetarian), which are then eaten by other animals
(carnivores). The food at the top of the food chain, being directly
nourished by the Sun, has the greatest life promoting properties. The
food value of animal flesh is termed as "second-hand" source of
nutrition, and is inferior in nature. All natural foods (fruits,
vegetables, seeds, nuts and grains) have, in varying quantities,
different pro****tions of these essential nutrients. As source of
protein, these are easily assimilated by the body. However,
second-hand sources are often more difficult to digest and are of less
value to the body's metabolism.
Many people worry about whether they are getting enough protein, but
neglect other factors. The quality of the protein is more im****tant
than the quantity alone. Dairy products, legumes, nuts and seeds
provide the vegetarian with an adequate supply of protein. The high
protein requirement still being used by many Health Departments is
based on antiquated data and has been scientifically disproved many
times in the laboratory.
A healthy motto is: "Eat to live, not live to eat". It is best if we
understand that the purpose of eating is to supply our being with the
lifeforce,or Prana, the vital life energy. So the greatest nutritional
plan for the Yoga student is the simple diet of natural fresh foods.
However, the true Yogic diet is actually even more selective than
this. The Yogi is concerned with the subtle effect that food has on
his mind and astral body. He therefore avoids foods which are overly
stimulating, preferring those which render the mind calm and the
intellect sharp. One who seriously takes to the path of Yoga would
avoid ingesting meats, fish, eggs, onions, garlic, coffee, tea (except
herbal), alcohol and drugs.
Any change in diet should be made gradually. Start by substituting
larger ****tions of vegetables, grains, seeds and nuts until finally
all flesh products have been completely eliminated from the diet.
The Yogic diet will help you attain a high standard of health, keen
intellect and serenity of mind. To really understand the Yogic
approach to diet one has to get familiar with the concept of the 3
Gunas or qualities of nature.
http://www.sivananda.org/teachings/diet/diet.html
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Now, I will say that vegetarian diet is ideal, but by no means
required. Swami Vivekananda has in his book "Karma Yoga" a story of a
Butcher in India who was hated by many of the so called "spiritual"
society there, but he was enlightened and just doing his job and duty
as he knew how to live. Therefore, in conclusion, it is good to be
vegetarian, but by no means necessary for spiritual progress.
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