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Re: Vegetarianism - encouragement

by hbkta@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (HB) Aug 11, 2004 at 07:08 AM

crewfan_88@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "Glenn \(Christian Mystic\)" <christianmystic@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> > "tlaloc" <tlaloc23nospamhere@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> > > Glenn (Christian Mystic) wrote:
> > >
> > > >> There are lots of self centered vegetarians who
> > > >> do little more than contemplate their navels, and there are meat
> > > >> eaters who make tremendous contributions to the human family.
> > > >> 'What comes out of our mouths is more im****tant that what goes
in.'
> > > >> AABailey
> > > >
> > > > Christ said the same.
> > >
> > > Please be so kind to provide sources and quotations.
> > 
> > Sure,
> > Matt.15:11 "Not that which goes into the mouth defiles a man; but that
which
> > comes out of the mouth, this defiles a man" (read the whole chapter
for
> > context)
> > 
> > > Thanks.
> > 
> > You welcome
> 
> I agree with that scripture in the context that it isn't the highest
> of morality to be vegetarian.  It is a lower goal, but a goal for
> spiritual aspirants nonetheless.  Some people here think
> otherwise....like being vegetarian is the highest of spiritual morals
> or something absurd like that.
> 
> Of course you must also remember the book of Daniel.  Daniel in the
> Bible WAS vegetarian UNLIKE the magicians of Babylon.  He refused to
> eat the meat that was offered to him and the king was amazed to find
> that he (Daniel) was much stronger and healthier as a result of his
> vegetarian diet.  

You could also refer to the Creation story, Adam and Eve and the
Garden of Eden, and see what it is that God supplied for them by to
eat. ie fruits, and leaves

> Also IMO it was his vegetarian diet that saved him
> from the lions den.  The Golden Rule "Do unto others as you would have
> done to you" was what I think saved him from the lions killing him. 
> He didn't eat animals and therefore they didn't eat him....just
> another opinion.
> 
>
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> From the Yoga Sutra:
> 
> When in the presence of one established in nonviolence, there is the
> abandonment of hostility.
> ahimsa-pratistayam tat-samnidhau vira-tyagah 
> 
> http://www.santosha.com/philosophy/sadhana-pada4.html
> 
>
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> 
> Proper diet is one of the 5 fundamental points of Yoga as taught by
> Swami Vishnu-devananda founder/Guru of the International Sivananda
> Yoga Vedanta Centers.
> The yogic diet is a vegetarian one, consisting of pure, simple,
> natural foods which are easily digested and promote health. Simple
> meals aid the digestion and assimilation of foods. Nutritional
> requirements fall under five categories: protein, carbohydrates,
> minerals, fats and vitamins. One should have a certain knowledge of
> dietetics in order to balance the diet. Eating foods first-hand from
> nature, grown in fertile soil (preferably organic, free from chemicals
> and pesticides) will help ensure a better supply of these nutritional
> needs. Processing, refining and overcooking destroy much food value.
> 
> There is a cycle in nature known as the "food cycle" or "food chain".
> The Sun is the source of energy for all life on our planet; it
> nourishes the plants (the top of the food chain) which are then eaten
> by animals (vegetarian), which are then eaten by other animals
> (carnivores). The food at the top of the food chain, being directly
> nourished by the Sun, has the greatest life promoting properties. The
> food value of animal flesh is termed as "second-hand" source of
> nutrition, and is inferior in nature. All natural foods (fruits,
> vegetables, seeds, nuts and grains) have, in varying quantities,
> different pro****tions of these essential nutrients. As source of
> protein, these are easily assimilated by the body. However,
> second-hand sources are often more difficult to digest and are of less
> value to the body's metabolism.
> 
> Many people worry about whether they are getting enough protein, but
> neglect other factors. The quality of the protein is more im****tant
> than the quantity alone. Dairy products, legumes, nuts and seeds
> provide the vegetarian with an adequate supply of protein. The high
> protein requirement still being used by many Health Departments is
> based on antiquated data and has been scientifically disproved many
> times in the laboratory.
> 
> A healthy motto is: "Eat to live, not live to eat". It is best if we
> understand that the purpose of eating is to supply our being with the
> lifeforce,or Prana, the vital life energy. So the greatest nutritional
> plan for the Yoga student is the simple diet of natural fresh foods.
> 
> However, the true Yogic diet is actually even more selective than
> this. The Yogi is concerned with the subtle effect that food has on
> his mind and astral body. He therefore avoids foods which are overly
> stimulating, preferring those which render the mind calm and the
> intellect sharp. One who seriously takes to the path of Yoga would
> avoid ingesting meats, fish, eggs, onions, garlic, coffee, tea (except
> herbal), alcohol and drugs.
> 
> Any change in diet should be made gradually. Start by substituting
> larger ****tions of vegetables, grains, seeds and nuts until finally
> all flesh products have been completely eliminated from the diet.
> The Yogic diet will help you attain a high standard of health, keen
> intellect and serenity of mind. To really understand the Yogic
> approach to diet one has to get familiar with the concept of the 3
> Gunas or qualities of nature.
> 
> http://www.sivananda.org/teachings/diet/diet.html
>
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> 
> Now, I will say that vegetarian diet is ideal, but by no means
> required.  Swami Vivekananda has in his book "Karma Yoga" a story of a
> Butcher in India who was hated by many of the so called "spiritual"
> society there, but he was enlightened and just doing his job and duty
> as he knew how to live.  Therefore, in conclusion, it is good to be
> vegetarian, but by no means necessary for spiritual progress.
 




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Vegetarianism - encouragement
suzi <suzi777@[EMAIL P  2003-10-11 09:56:31 
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"Mike the Kiwi"  2003-10-12 11:15:44 
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halcon7roho@[EMAIL PROTEC  2003-10-13 08:17:45 
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omjaroo <omjaroo@[EMAI  2003-10-17 22:36:31 
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"Dharma" <pa  2003-11-01 22:41:16 
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halcon7roho@[EMAIL PROTEC  2003-11-06 16:32:24 
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halcon7roho@[EMAIL PROTEC  2003-10-18 07:54:30 
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"Dharma" <pa  2003-10-18 21:51:38 
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"Glenn \(Christian M  2004-07-03 20:42:15 
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tlaloc <tlaloc23nospam  2004-07-04 12:31:36 
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calderhome@[EMAIL PROTECT  2004-07-09 16:29:27 
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"Glenn \(Christian M  2004-07-19 22:26:28 
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"Glenn \(Christian M  2004-07-19 21:16:20 
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"Glenn \(Christian M  2004-08-10 16:54:27 
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Crowfoot <suzych@[EMAI  2004-08-13 23:50:50 
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hbkta@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2004-08-11 07:08:53 
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animaux <animaux@[EMAI  2003-10-15 13:15:26 
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"Glenn \(Christian M  2004-11-06 18:02:25 
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Lady Azure <baroness'o  2004-11-06 15:48:05 
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