Re: The Myth of Evolution `

Roy Jose Lorr wrote:
> Matt Giwer wrote:
>> Roy Jose Lorr wrote:
>>> Atheists believe in God.  The belief is inherent in the human 
>>> condition... cognizance demands it. There is no choice in the matter. 


>>     Can you produce physical evidence of that assertion? Please do so 
>> if you can. Argumentation is not physical evidence.

> Every Atheist obsessed with proving to himself that something (God) he 
> believes does not exist does not exist, is all the evidence necessary.  
> That is the mental disorder that accompanies all Atheists their entire 
> lives.

	Physical evidence is not everything but it is the only thing of interest
to a 
rational person. Physical evidence is not proof and has nothing to do with

proof. For a thing to exist it must leave physical evidence, period. That
is the 
nature of this reality.

>>> The only choice is in choosing to accept or reject Him. 
>>     What happened to HER and THEM? And what use does a god have with a 
>> ***ual identity? It dumber than tits on a boar.

> Irrelevance suits you.

	I am simply asking after this compulsion of yours to insist your
insubstantial 
god has a ***** and testosterone and XY chromosomes. You claimed it very
openly. 
Why?

>>> This is a moral decision based on the strength of the individual's 
>>> dependence on their base desires.   Those who accept God are prone to 
>>> be discomforted by those lower desires and would suppress them when 
>>> they can.  Those who reject God tend to feel discomforted when they 
>>> are advised by conscience to put limits on expressing those same base 
>>> desires freely at their own discretion.

>>     Other than the stuff a few perverts in 3rd c. BC Palestine 
>> invented as sins just what is a "base" desire and why?

> A base desire is on that goes against conscience.

	Conscience is formed by the culture in which one lives. If there really
were 
people who lived by the morality of the Old Testament the civilized people
of 
the world would have destroyed them for their bestiality and their affront
to 
civilization.

	Should you ever read Acts you will discover Christians are prohibited
from 
visiting brothels solely for the risk of ***** with the children they
sold to 
the brothels. Some conscience.

>>> Formal religions are based on the natural defense mechanism that 
>>> promotes collectivization of like attitudes toward man's imagined 
>>> perceptions of his own and the world's fallibility. 

>>     The motion of objects is never fallible.

> The operative word I used is "perception".  Try rereading what I wrote, 
> not what you wish I wrote.

	That which does not occur cannot be perceived.

>>> Some religions make their deity so much like themselves that their 
>>> adherents see themselves as gods, empowered by the convenient but 
>>> false tenet of Relativism, to do as they will regardless of any 
>>> constraints imposed by God's absolute morality.  Among the man is god 
>>> religions is the religion of Atheism.

>>     All educated people know that the Judeans, aka Jews, first appear 
>> in history in the 2nd c. BC. There is no prior mention of them when 
>> there should be. There is no archaeological evidence of biblical 
>> Israel. Thus Israel is in the same category as Camelot and Atlantis. 
>> But you are not educated so you do not know these things.

> More ad hoc irrelevance.

	Those are facts. Deal with them. The Old Testament is an invention like
the 
Book of Mormon, Dianetics and the Koran. Yahweh and his Ashara were in the

region for at least a thousand years. Her temple was in Jerusalem even
after the 
temple of Yahweh was destroyed. She was wor****ped by the Jews/Judeans.
Idols of 
her only disappear after Rome rebuilt Jerusalem into a civilized city with

running water and sanitation.

	Get over it and get on with real life.

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