Doug Weller wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 07:35:55 -0700, in sci.archaeology, Roy Jose Lorr
> wrote:
>
>
>>Mark Isaak wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 12:40:57 -0700, Linda Lee wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>[...]
>>>>Since fear of God (and God's punishment) is the reason many atheists
>>>>reject God, yes, a night spent experiencing the supernatural would
>>>>probably be a very terrifying night for such people.
>>>
>>>
>>>You are greatly ignornant on the subject of atheism. Fear of God's
>>>punishment could be a reason for rejecting God, but rejecting God does
>>>not equate to disbelieving in God. In fact, one logically must *not*
be
>>>an atheist in order to believe in God enough to fear him.
>>>
>>>On the other hand, rejection of God can lead, over time, to ignoring
God,
>>>which can become a sort of atheism by default.
>>>
>>>On the third hand, fear of God's punishment is an extremely rare reason
>>>for rejecting God. At least, I have never heard of it happening. A
much
>>>more common reason for rejecting God is hatred of God for what he has
>>>done. Usually this happens when people who are raised to believe that
>>>God is Good have bad things happen to them, despite their sincere
>>>prayers. The God they were promised was demostrably not there. Of
>>>course, the problem is more with the promises than with God, but it's
not
>>>like "God is good" is a fringe belief.
>>>
>>>Getting back to atheism, there are three main reasons (that I know of)
>>>why people choose it. The first is similar to the above reason for
>>>rejecting God, except more impersonal. The theists say that a God has
>>>certain qualities which people can observe, those qualities are not
>>>observed, ergo God does not exist.
>>>
>>>The second is probably the most common. Quite simply, there is no
reason
>>>philosophically to expect a god. Yes, there are plenty of so-called
>>>proofs of God, but they were debunked centuries ago. Today, they are
>>>only used by the faithless to try to convince themselves.
>>>
>>>The third reason is the main reason why I became an athiest: the
theists
>>>showed me, by their words and actions, that atheism was the morally
>>>superior position. Consider, for example, Nomen's quote: "I truly
>>>believe someone has to be insane not to believe in God the Creator ..."
>>>I simply do not want to be around someone filled with as much bigotry
as
>>>he is.
>>>
>>>Note that I am not saying that these are good reasons, nor am I trying
to
>>>convince anyone. I simply offer these observations in hopes that they
>>>help you understand atheists better.
>>
>>Atheists believe in God. The belief is inherent in the
>>human condition... cognizance demands it. There is no
>>choice in the matter.
>
>
> What planet does this guy come from?
>
> The only choice is in choosing to
>
>>accept or reject Him. This is a moral decision based on the
>>strength of the individual's dependence on their base
>>desires. Those who accept God are prone to be discomforted
>>by those lower desires and would suppress them when they
>>can. Those who reject God tend to feel discomforted when
>>they are advised by conscience to put limits on expressing
>>those same base desires freely at their own discretion.
>>
>>Formal religions are based on the natural defense mechanism
>>that promotes collectivization of like attitudes toward
>>man's imagined perceptions of his own and the world's
>>fallibility. Some religions make their deity so much like
>>themselves that their adherents see themselves as gods,
>>empowered by the convenient but false tenet of Relativism,
>>to do as they will regardless of any constraints imposed by
>>God's absolute morality. Among the man is god religions is
>>the religion of Atheism.
>
>
> That may be part of your belief system, but it isn't correct.
Explain this imagined 'incorrectness'?
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