Doug Weller wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:22:53 -0700, in sci.archaeology, Roy Jose Lorr
> wrote:
>
>
>>Doug Weller wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 07:35:55 -0700, in sci.archaeology, Roy Jose Lorr
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Mark Isaak wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 12:40:57 -0700, Linda Lee wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>[...]
>>>>>>Since fear of God (and God's punishment) is the reason many atheists
>>>>>>reject God, yes, a night spent experiencing the supernatural would
>>>>>>probably be a very terrifying night for such people.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>You are greatly ignornant on the subject of atheism. Fear of God's
>>>>>punishment could be a reason for rejecting God, but rejecting God
does
>>>>>not equate to disbelieving in God. In fact, one logically must *not*
be
>>>>>an atheist in order to believe in God enough to fear him.
>>>>>
>>>>>On the other hand, rejection of God can lead, over time, to ignoring
God,
>>>>>which can become a sort of atheism by default.
>>>>>
>>>>>On the third hand, fear of God's punishment is an extremely rare
reason
>>>>>for rejecting God. At least, I have never heard of it happening. A
much
>>>>>more common reason for rejecting God is hatred of God for what he has
>>>>>done. Usually this happens when people who are raised to believe
that
>>>>>God is Good have bad things happen to them, despite their sincere
>>>>>prayers. The God they were promised was demostrably not there. Of
>>>>>course, the problem is more with the promises than with God, but it's
not
>>>>>like "God is good" is a fringe belief.
>>>>>
>>>>>Getting back to atheism, there are three main reasons (that I know
of)
>>>>>why people choose it. The first is similar to the above reason for
>>>>>rejecting God, except more impersonal. The theists say that a God
has
>>>>>certain qualities which people can observe, those qualities are not
>>>>>observed, ergo God does not exist.
>>>>>
>>>>>The second is probably the most common. Quite simply, there is no
reason
>>>>>philosophically to expect a god. Yes, there are plenty of so-called
>>>>>proofs of God, but they were debunked centuries ago. Today, they are
>>>>>only used by the faithless to try to convince themselves.
>>>>>
>>>>>The third reason is the main reason why I became an athiest: the
theists
>>>>>showed me, by their words and actions, that atheism was the morally
>>>>>superior position. Consider, for example, Nomen's quote: "I truly
>>>>>believe someone has to be insane not to believe in God the Creator
..."
>>>>>I simply do not want to be around someone filled with as much bigotry
as
>>>>>he is.
>>>>>
>>>>>Note that I am not saying that these are good reasons, nor am I
trying to
>>>>>convince anyone. I simply offer these observations in hopes that
they
>>>>>help you understand atheists better.
>>>>
>>>>Atheists believe in God. The belief is inherent in the
>>>>human condition... cognizance demands it. There is no
>>>>choice in the matter.
>>>
>>>
>>>What planet does this guy come from?
>>>
>>> The only choice is in choosing to
>>>
>>>
>>>>accept or reject Him. This is a moral decision based on the
>>>>strength of the individual's dependence on their base
>>>>desires. Those who accept God are prone to be discomforted
>>>>by those lower desires and would suppress them when they
>>>>can. Those who reject God tend to feel discomforted when
>>>>they are advised by conscience to put limits on expressing
>>>>those same base desires freely at their own discretion.
>>>>
>>>>Formal religions are based on the natural defense mechanism
>>>>that promotes collectivization of like attitudes toward
>>>>man's imagined perceptions of his own and the world's
>>>>fallibility. Some religions make their deity so much like
>>>>themselves that their adherents see themselves as gods,
>>>>empowered by the convenient but false tenet of Relativism,
>>>>to do as they will regardless of any constraints imposed by
>>>>God's absolute morality. Among the man is god religions is
>>>>the religion of Atheism.
>>>
>>>
>>>That may be part of your belief system, but it isn't correct.
>>
>>Explain this imagined 'incorrectness'?
>
>
> There is no point. You have decided you know THE TRUTH and you
apparently
> haven't even seen the contradictions in your post above.
Point out the 'contradictions' in my post or get of the pot.
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