Re: Nostradamus gets it wrong again!

OK DAN.

Address perhaps the most famous prophecy of them all -  X.72


See MARS = MARS. 1999=1999. Difficult to understand?


This one has a specific date ( THE HARDEST THING TO DO WITH A PROPHECY
COMING FROM THE 16th CENTURY!)  and deals with the period in human history
called the SPACE AGE (post 1945).


X.72.... Here is an example of a "perfect match prophecy," with date and
event WHILE revealing the AGE of CIVILIZATION. Not the Stone Age or the
Bronze Age, but the SPACE AGE.


NOSTRADAMUS REVEALS THE AGE OF CIVILIZATION IN THE YEAR 1999
(SPACE AGE).


What Britannica says about the SPACE AGE, "...Post 1945.. It justifies the
description of this period, however, as that of "space age technology."



From: "DM" <dm@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Newsgroups: alt.prophecies.nostradamus
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 4:10 PM
Subject: THE ACTUAL 1999 PROPHECY BY NOSTRADAMUS - X, 72


>
> 1)  What relevant social-historical material can you
> find in the quatrain
> X.72?
>
> Only the last line relates the quatrain to the *entire
> world* and refers to
> *particular* level of global social and historical
> development. Advanced
> technological civilization has created the means to
> travel many millions of
> miles through space.
>
>
> Show me something in the quatrain that reveals the
> type of world we lived in
> during 1999?
>
>
> The quatrain deals with the all-embracing nature of
> technology and science
> in human affairs and their destructive and repressive
> use. It refers to a
> specific stage of human technological and scientific
> development, a phase of
> human civilization called the "SPACE AGE."
>
>
> Is there something unique in that quatrain which links
> it to 1999 and is
> found during no other time in human history?
>
> Space****ps have been sent to Mars for quite a while.
> BUT  IN *ONE* YEAR
> (1999)  *TWO* SPACE****PS WERE DESTROYED *ON* MARS.
> (i.e., The year
> 1999....BEFORE AND AFTER MARS REIGNS WITH GOOD
> FORTUNE). That is a world
> historical novelty.
>
> Other interpretations cannot point to objective
> *concrete reality* and just
> assume that the prophecy contains no social-historical
> *BACKGROUND*.
> Indeed, it would be no prophecy if it could not point
> to the concrete world
> we actually live in.
>
> ".DM.." <diowzaez@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> news:aX4_8.17841$NV1.946891@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > LEST LEMESURIER'S *PERPETUAL NONSENSE* IS THE FINAL WORD ON
NOSTRADAMUS...
> >
> > X.72 WILL BE REPOSTED REGULARLY TO DEMONSTRATE NOSTRADAMUS'  UNRIVALED
> >  PROPHETIC ABILITIES.
> >
> > >
> > > "DM" <dmdmzaz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> > > news:06qG8.17200$Os6.901278@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Century X. Quatrain 72
> > > >
> > > > L'an mil neuf cens nonante neuf sept mois
> > > > Du ciel viendra un grand Roy deffraieur
> > > > Resusciter le grand Roy d'Angolmois.
> > > > *Avant apres Mars regner par bon heur.*
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > THE ACTUAL X.72 PROPHECY BY NOSTRADAMUS:
> > > >
> > > > Century X, Quatrain 72
> > > >
> > > > The year 1999, seventh month,
> > > > From the sky will come a great King of Terror:
> > > > To bring back to life the great King of Angolmois,
> > > > *BEFORE AND AFTER MARS TO REIGN WITH GOOD FORTUNE.*
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > SEE DOUBLE?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > DATE: 1999. PLACE: MARS.
> > > >
> > > > BEFORE AND AFTER = X 2.
> > > >
> > > > THE FIRST PART OF THE PROPHECY IS CLEAR ENOUGH AND DOES NOT
REQUIRE
> > > > *INTERPRETATION*.
> > > >
> > > > THE THIRD LINE SHOWS THAT PROFOUND *MYSTERY* SURROUNDS THE ENTIRE
UNIVERSE.
> > > > HUMAN REASON ONLY TOUCHES THE VERY SURFACE
> > > > OF REALITY. THE TRUE NATURE OF THE UNIVERSE CAN NEVER BE
UNDERSTOOD
OR
> > > > CONTROLLED BY THE MIND. IN OTHER WORDS, THINGS ARE NOT AS THEY
SEEM...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > HENCE THE LAST LINE...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > THE FINAL LINE OF THE PROPHECY IS ABOUT THE DESTRUCTION OF THE
*TWO*
> > > > SPACE****PS ON MARS IN  *1999*.
> > > >
> > > > YOU "MISSED" THE CRITICAL 1999 PROPHECY THAT DEALS WITH THE VERY
LIMITS OF
> > > > HUMAN TECHNOLOGICAL AND SCIENTIFIC DEVELOPMENT AND THEIR ULTIMATE
AND
> > > > CATASTROPHIC FAILURE!
> > > >
> > > > COINCIDENCE? YOU BE THE JUDGE....
> > > >
> > > >
http://www.channel4000.com/sh/news/stories/nat-news-990923-122128.html
> > > >
> > > > Scientists Say It Broke Up Before It Reached Mars
> > > >
> > > >                  PASADENA, Calif. Posted 10:05 a.m.
> > > >                  SEPTEMBER 23, 1999 -- A $125 million
> > > >                  spacecraft designed to be NASA's first
> > > >                  interplanetary weather satellite was presumed
> > > >                  lost on Mars Thursday after it failed to regain
> > > >                  contact with Earth following a critical engine
> > > >                  firing to place it in orbit around the red
planet.
> > > >
> > > >                  A preliminary analysis shows that Mars Climate
> > > >                  Orbiter made too close an approach to the
> > > >                  planet and likely broke into pieces or burned up
in
> > > > the atmosphere, said
> > > >                  operations project manager Richard Cook of NASA's
Jet
> > > > Propulsion
> > > >                  Laboratory (JPL).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
http://www.channel2000.com/sh/news/stories/nat-news-19991205-021219.html
> > > >
> > > >                  PASADENA, Posted 9:12 p.m. EST DECEMBER 4, 1999
--
> > > > For a
> > > >                  second day Saturday, NASA scientists anxiously
waited
> > > > for a signal from
> > > >                  the still-silent Mars Polar Lander, a craft
critics
> > > > say may have been in
> > > >                  trouble even before it left the launch pad 11
months
> > > > ago.
> > > >
> > > >                  Weeks before the $165 million craft
> > > >                  began its descent towards the Red
> > > >                  Planet, questions were being raised
> > > >                  about the mission and whether it might
> > > >                  be doomed by tight budgets and
> > > >                  understaffing.
> > > >
> > > >                  Attempts to detect signals from the
> > > >                  spacecraft were to continue with a
> > > >                  transmission window opening Saturday
> > > >                  night. It has not been heard from since Friday,
when
> > > > it began its fiery
> > > >                  descent toward Mars.



"Dan Pressnell" <dan_pressnell@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "Willy" <willycrawford@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> news:bs2prp$12sk$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > "Dan Pressnell" <dan_pressnell@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > >
> > >"Not Im****tant" <someone@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> > >news:1r_Eb.152596$Vu6.91799@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > >> I can't believe that you waste your time misinterpreting
Nostradamus!
> > >
> > >Isn't that the way to do it?  Why don't you want me using the same
> > >techniques that Nosty-believers use?  Could it be because then it
becomes
> > >clear it's all a bunch of ****?
> > >
> > >Dan
> > >
> > >
> > I'm not a 'believer'. I am curious though.
> > What are these 'techniques' you refer to?
>
> You just take some vague words and apply it to whatever you want to
apply
it
> to.  For example, "king" becomes "terrorist".  "New city" becomes "New
York
> City."  "Great City" becomes London, Paris, Berlin, or whatever you want
it
> to mean.
>
> In other words, you take stuff that, if predicting something, is so
vague
> that NOBODY knows what the prediction is, but then when something
happens,
> you claim that it predicted whatever happened.  Do you know how many
> anti-christs Nosty is supposed to have predicted throughout the years?
> Every bad guy who comes along satisfies his predictions of the
anti-christ,
> it seems.  Now how many times does one prediction come true?
>
> I'm taking the intellectual dishonesty of the supposed scholarly snobs
who
> want to illustrate Nosty's accuracy with such techniques.  And I'm using
the
> same techniques.  You can't measure accuracy without measuring the
misses,
> and you have to use the same standard you use when you measure the
> accuracies.  Anything else, and you are just playing at being smart.
>
> Under the sames standards that the nosty-followers use, Nostradamus is
one
> of the most unsuccessful prophets in the history of the world.
>
> Dan
>
>