Not the start, but the beginning of the end.....
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"Thaddeus" <nojmail@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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>...
> This is a very good interpretation in my opinion and similar to what I
have
> uncovered in my studies of Nostradamus, the Book of revelations, the
book of
> Daniel, and modern day and ancient prophesies.
>
>
>
> I used to be a big fan of Nosty, but recently have been questioning his
> character. He was a very interesting man to say the least. After
reading
> about religious prophets before Nosty's time that prophesied similar
events
> enigmatically described by Nosty got me thinking. What if Nosty got his
> material from the prophesies of the saints before him?
>
>
>
> It makes a lot of sense that he actually spent time in his secret room
> studying true prophets before him instead of all the hocus pocus stuff.
He
> was very secretive of his methods and claimed to take his secret to his
> grave. He was also pur****ted to have burned some of his work, and maybe
his
> sources. Such a source could have been the Mirabilis liber published in
> 1524, which is a collection of prophesies of religious people before
Nosty
> originally written in Latin.
>
>
>
> I do not believe in astrology, being a scientist and all, and also do
not
> believe in magic clairvoyance by looking at a black mirror or bowl of
water.
> I do believe in the Holy Spirit however, and so accept Nosty not as a
> prophet, but more as a scholar.
>
>
>
> Anyway, some of the differences that I understand is that of the listed
> Popes by Malachy, that the Popes listed are true Popes. That is, they
are
> the Vicars of Christ and not Anti-Popes that are specifically fallible.
So,
> the last two popes are not necessarily the next two Popes. The next
Pope
> could possibly be very Liberal and cause a huge problem that leads to
> apostasy and schism.
>
>
>
> From what I understand, JPII is supposed to be the fleeing Pope from
this
> attack, possibly a large scale terrorist attack from a large terrorist
cell
> in Italy. He will then be martyred and filmed because the whole world
will
> see it. JPII will dedicate his martyrdom to Mary, and surprise the
> terrorists with a divine vigor and defiance to the terrorists.
>
>
>
> I would think that this would have to happen soon though, because the
Pope
> definitely does not have much time left. He did do well this Easter
with
> the tough schedule and never ceases to amaze me with spurts of good
health.
> The next Pope seems more likely, but improbable is not necessarily
> impossible. It is very unlikely the Pope will live for another decade
or
> five years for that matter, but it is not impossible.
>
>
>
> Time will tell.
>
>
>
> God bless,
>
> Thaddeus
>
>
>
> "Johnny Diva" <johnnydiva@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> news:20040324063739.01536.00000002@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >From: snowflake
>
> > >I thought this (jpII) was supposed to be the last pope according to
> > Nostradamus?
> >
> > No. Some people believe that the Papal lineage is almost finished
because
> of
> > prophecies by an Irish saint named Malachy. While on a pilgrimage to
> Rome, he
> > saw a vision of the next 112 popes and attributed a short enigmatic
latin
> > phrase to describe them. According to his list, we're on Pope #110.
For
> > example, the first on the list was "castle on the Tiber River" and
that
> first
> > Pope was born on the Tiber and his Italian surname was "Castle." Pope
> John
> > Paul I was named "of the half-moon" He was coronated & died on a
> half-moon.
> > Pope John Paul II's epigram is "of the solar eclipse" and he was born
on a
> > solar eclipse. It is believed by some he will die on an eclipse too.
> >
> > Now here is where the legends of Nostradamus comes into play. The
next
> Pope on
> > Malachy's list (#111) is called "Gloria Olivæ" which means "Glory of
the
> Olive
> > [Branch]" Some people believe this means that 1) this Pope will be
> coronated
> > during a time of peace 2) this Pope will hearld in a short time of
peace
> 3)
> > The Olive Branch will be on his Coat of Arms but sugguest something
ironic
> of
> > his reign (which was the case with many of Malachy's slogans).
> >
> > According to Nostradamus during the final Popes -- there will be a
> conflict in
> > the Conclave over whom to elect. Half the Cardinals will sup****t a
> Spanish
> > [speaking] Cardinal, the other half a French one. There is another
> quatrain
> > which says the winning Pope will be French & suggests this Pope will
be a
> > Catholic convert. Then, because of the election -- there will be a
> schism.
> > Other quatrains sugguest that Muslims (in a "metal fish") will sack
Rome
> during
> > this Pope's reign and this [French?] Pope will flee back to France -
like
> back
> > in the days of the Avignon Exile. This sacking of Rome will be one of
the
> > starting causes of a world war -- perhaps World War III.
> >
> > If you look at the current demographics of the Church, this is a very
> plausible
> > situation. Many Catholic "experts" believe that since the largest
> populations
> > of Catholics are from Latin American, there is a strong possiblity for
a
> > Spanish [speaking] Cardinal to win the nomination. And these same
> "experts"
> > all have potential lists which contain Latin American Cardinals.
> >
> > However, there is one current French Cardinal which could fit both
> criteria.
> > Cardinal Lustiger of Paris was a Jewish convert who hid in Benedictine
> > monestaries durning WWII. The Benedictine's symbol is the Olive
Branch.
> >
> > Some people also believe the 3rd "Secret" from Fátima has yet to be
> fulfilled.
> > Fátima is a little town in ****tugal, where the Virgin Mary appeared to
3
> > children back in the 1913-14. She told the children 3 future events,
2 of
> > which were told at the time of the vision; but She warned them to keep
the
> > third secret until the right time (She had Lucinda write them down
then
> seal
> > the envelop and give it to the local bishop to pass on to the Pope).
It
> was
> > supposed to be released in the 1960s, but the sole survivor Lucinda
said
> she
> > was informed to wait [It is said when Pope Paul VI read the prophecy,
he
> wept
> > for a few days]. On the 50th Anniversary of Fátima, Pope John Paul II
had
> > Lucinda read the last "secret" at the Beatification of her cousins
(the
> fellow
> > visionaries).
> >
> > Many believe it described the assassination [attempt] of Pope John
Paul
> II.
> > When an arab tried to kill him on the Oct. 13 (the anniversary of the
> Fátima
> > visions) the only reason he wasn't killed was due to him kneeling down
to
> kiss
> > an image of Our Lady of Fátima at the very instant the bullet was
fired.
> After
> > this, John Paul always had a very deep devotion (for obvious reasons)
to
> the
> > Queen of the Rosary (Mary's title from Fátima).
> >
> > This secret says a "bishop in white" will be ambushed by arabs while
> fleeing
> > Rome then killed while kneeling to help a wounded man.
> >
> > A lot of the faithful believe that since the other 2 Prophecies from
> Fátima
> > were very specific (1 - that Germany would rise up 2x to lose a war &
2 -
> > Russia would convert to communism and "spread her errors" around the
> world),
> > the fact that John Paul II wasn't ambushed as described in the vision
> sugguests
> > a future Pope is to suffer this fate.
> >
> > Oh, the last Pope on on Malachy's list (#112) is "Petrus Romanus" or
> "Peter the
> > Roman" No other pope has ever used the name "Peter" -- so it's
believed
> the
> > last Pope would take that title. It is also believed he will either
1)
> bring
> > the Papacy back to Rome after its exile (per Nostradamus's quatrains)
or
> 2)
> > born in Rome.
> >
> > Not that I totally believe in all this, but this is a very likely
scenerio
> I
> > have formulated from my studies of Nostradamus & Catholic mysticism.
Each
> > mystic tradition is like a puzzle piece -- and it's not until you
place
> all the
> > pieces together you can see the full panoramic view.
> >
> > JohnnyDiva
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