"Thaddeus" <nojmail@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> This is a very good interpretation in my opinion and similar to what I
have
> uncovered in my studies of Nostradamus, the Book of revelations, the
book
of
> Daniel, and modern day and ancient prophesies.
>
>
>
> I used to be a big fan of Nosty, but recently have been questioning his
> character. He was a very interesting man to say the least. After
reading
> about religious prophets before Nosty's time that prophesied similar
events
> enigmatically described by Nosty got me thinking. What if Nosty got his
> material from the prophesies of the saints before him?
>
>
>
> It makes a lot of sense that he actually spent time in his secret room
> studying true prophets before him instead of all the hocus pocus stuff.
By hocus pocus to you mean, as I interpret, the intenses means of less
studious and less religious and more evil folk?
For it amongst the aforementioned where the bombers of the nerve should
die
(in my belief).
He
> was very secretive of his methods and claimed to take his secret to his
> grave. He was also pur****ted to have burned some of his work, and maybe
his
> sources. Such a source could have been the Mirabilis liber published in
> 1524, which is a collection of prophesies of religious people before
Nosty
> originally written in Latin.
>
Secret is best, if only the secret can be trusted.
>
>
> I do not believe in astrology, being a scientist and all, and also do
not
> believe in magic clairvoyance by looking at a black mirror or bowl of
water.
Trochee spondee dactyl, the word can be evil, but the word still can be
good
aim, if we learn it to our convolane.
> I do believe in the Holy Spirit however, and so accept Nosty not as a
> prophet, but more as a scholar.
>
Me too, and as a prophet empowered with faith.
>
>
> Anyway, some of the differences that I understand is that of the listed
> Popes by Malachy, that the Popes listed are true Popes. That is, they
are
> the Vicars of Christ and not Anti-Popes that are specifically fallible.
So,
> the last two popes are not necessarily the next two Popes. The next
Pope
> could possibly be very Liberal and cause a huge problem that leads to
> apostasy and schism.
>
The problem of the popes is not of most im****tance. It is what the popes
or
antipopes do to protect the minds, wills and bodies of their m***** that
is
of real im****tance.
>
>
> From what I understand, JPII is supposed to be the fleeing Pope from
this
> attack, possibly a large scale terrorist attack from a large terrorist
cell
> in Italy. He will then be martyred and filmed because the whole world
will
> see it. JPII will dedicate his martyrdom to Mary, and surprise the
> terrorists with a divine vigor and defiance to the terrorists.
>
For he shall yield an understanding unto the people in sense and meaning
and
free them to take action they know is correct. Equity shall prevail says
English law, Equity is of Latin brood and from Empire's upbringing. It
shall
not fail for the bat and the blood are to unite in force strength and
action. And to destroy all iniquity in their path.
>
>
> I would think that this would have to happen soon though, because the
Pope
> definitely does not have much time left. He did do well this Easter
with
> the tough schedule and never ceases to amaze me with spurts of good
health.
> The next Pope seems more likely, but improbable is not necessarily
> impossible. It is very unlikely the Pope will live for another decade
or
> five years for that matter, but it is not impossible.
>
>
Time told
Time tells
and
> Time will tell.
>
>
>
> God bless,
>
> Thaddeus
>
>
Quiet rejoinder
William.
>
> "Johnny Diva" <johnnydiva@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> news:20040324063739.01536.00000002@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >From: snowflake
> >
> > >I thought this (jpII) was supposed to be the last pope according to
> > Nostradamus?
> >
> > No. Some people believe that the Papal lineage is almost finished
because
> of
> > prophecies by an Irish saint named Malachy. While on a pilgrimage to
> Rome, he
> > saw a vision of the next 112 popes and attributed a short enigmatic
latin
> > phrase to describe them. According to his list, we're on Pope #110.
For
> > example, the first on the list was "castle on the Tiber River" and
that
> first
> > Pope was born on the Tiber and his Italian surname was "Castle." Pope
> John
> > Paul I was named "of the half-moon" He was coronated & died on a
> half-moon.
> > Pope John Paul II's epigram is "of the solar eclipse" and he was born
on
a
> > solar eclipse. It is believed by some he will die on an eclipse too.
> >
> > Now here is where the legends of Nostradamus comes into play. The
next
> Pope on
> > Malachy's list (#111) is called "Gloria Olivæ" which means "Glory of
the
> Olive
> > [Branch]" Some people believe this means that 1) this Pope will be
> coronated
> > during a time of peace 2) this Pope will hearld in a short time of
peace
> 3)
> > The Olive Branch will be on his Coat of Arms but sugguest something
ironic
> of
> > his reign (which was the case with many of Malachy's slogans).
> >
> > According to Nostradamus during the final Popes -- there will be a
> conflict in
> > the Conclave over whom to elect. Half the Cardinals will sup****t a
> Spanish
> > [speaking] Cardinal, the other half a French one. There is another
> quatrain
> > which says the winning Pope will be French & suggests this Pope will
be
a
> > Catholic convert. Then, because of the election -- there will be a
> schism.
> > Other quatrains sugguest that Muslims (in a "metal fish") will sack
Rome
> during
> > this Pope's reign and this [French?] Pope will flee back to France -
like
> back
> > in the days of the Avignon Exile. This sacking of Rome will be one of
the
> > starting causes of a world war -- perhaps World War III.
> >
> > If you look at the current demographics of the Church, this is a very
> plausible
> > situation. Many Catholic "experts" believe that since the largest
> populations
> > of Catholics are from Latin American, there is a strong possiblity for
a
> > Spanish [speaking] Cardinal to win the nomination. And these same
> "experts"
> > all have potential lists which contain Latin American Cardinals.
> >
> > However, there is one current French Cardinal which could fit both
> criteria.
> > Cardinal Lustiger of Paris was a Jewish convert who hid in Benedictine
> > monestaries durning WWII. The Benedictine's symbol is the Olive
Branch.
> >
> > Some people also believe the 3rd "Secret" from Fátima has yet to be
> fulfilled.
> > Fátima is a little town in ****tugal, where the Virgin Mary appeared to
3
> > children back in the 1913-14. She told the children 3 future events,
2
of
> > which were told at the time of the vision; but She warned them to keep
the
> > third secret until the right time (She had Lucinda write them down
then
> seal
> > the envelop and give it to the local bishop to pass on to the Pope).
It
> was
> > supposed to be released in the 1960s, but the sole survivor Lucinda
said
> she
> > was informed to wait [It is said when Pope Paul VI read the prophecy,
he
> wept
> > for a few days]. On the 50th Anniversary of Fátima, Pope John Paul II
had
> > Lucinda read the last "secret" at the Beatification of her cousins
(the
> fellow
> > visionaries).
> >
> > Many believe it described the assassination [attempt] of Pope John
Paul
> II.
> > When an arab tried to kill him on the Oct. 13 (the anniversary of the
> Fátima
> > visions) the only reason he wasn't killed was due to him kneeling down
to
> kiss
> > an image of Our Lady of Fátima at the very instant the bullet was
fired.
> After
> > this, John Paul always had a very deep devotion (for obvious reasons)
to
> the
> > Queen of the Rosary (Mary's title from Fátima).
> >
> > This secret says a "bishop in white" will be ambushed by arabs while
> fleeing
> > Rome then killed while kneeling to help a wounded man.
> >
> > A lot of the faithful believe that since the other 2 Prophecies from
> Fátima
> > were very specific (1 - that Germany would rise up 2x to lose a war &
2 -
> > Russia would convert to communism and "spread her errors" around the
> world),
> > the fact that John Paul II wasn't ambushed as described in the vision
> sugguests
> > a future Pope is to suffer this fate.
> >
> > Oh, the last Pope on on Malachy's list (#112) is "Petrus Romanus" or
> "Peter the
> > Roman" No other pope has ever used the name "Peter" -- so it's
believed
> the
> > last Pope would take that title. It is also believed he will either
1)
> bring
> > the Papacy back to Rome after its exile (per Nostradamus's quatrains)
or
> 2)
> > born in Rome.
> >
> > Not that I totally believe in all this, but this is a very likely
scenerio
> I
> > have formulated from my studies of Nostradamus & Catholic mysticism.
Each
> > mystic tradition is like a puzzle piece -- and it's not until you
place
> all the
> > pieces together you can see the full panoramic view.
> >
> > JohnnyDiva
>
>
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