Talk About Network



Register and Login
Nick
Password
Register create new account Sign up is FREE and you can post replies, new topics, bookmark posts and more!
Recover lost password


Alternative > Pagan Contacts > Modern Mohammed...
Latest [ Topics | Posts ] Archive Post A New Topic Post a Reply
<< Topic < Post Post 1 of 1 Topic 681 of 691
Post > Topic >>

Modern Mohammedanism has its Mecca at Salt Lake... Clearly the Koran was Joseph Smith's model, so closely followed as to exclude even the poor pretension of originality in his foul 'revelations.' " (The Women of Mormonism, Frances E. Willard, 1882, Introd

by "God Teaching You" <janiceberger@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 6, 2008 at 10:44 PM

Modern Mohammedanism has its Mecca at Salt Lake... Clearly the Koran was 
Joseph Smith's model, so closely followed as to exclude even the poor 
pretension of originality in his foul 'revelations.' " (The Women of 
Mormonism, Frances E. Willard, 1882, Introduction, p. xvi)
a.. "The student of Mormonism will be struck with the similarity of 
experience and claims of Joseph Smith and Mohammed." (The Rocky Mountain 
Saints, T. B. H. Stenhouse 1873, p 2)
a.. "even though we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a
gospel 
contrary to that which we have preached to you, let him be accursed" Gal
1:8

      Muhammad and the angel Gabriel
     Mormons and Muslims share much in their religion!

      Smith and the angel Moroni


Islamic And Mormonism Similarities

Similarities between Joseph Smith and Muhammad:

  1.. The followers of Muhammad and Joseph Smith both killed innocent 
"infidel" on the same date of 9/11. On September 11, 1857, Mormon militia 
massacred about 140 men, women and children under the authority of Brigham

Young. However 17 very young children were spared and adopted into Mormon 
families. They were in fact sold to the highest Mormon family bidder and 
resold and traded many times afterwords. This event is called "The
Mountain 
Meadows" massacre. Mormon leaders engaged in a deliberate rewriting of 
history to deny they were behind the murders. On September 11, 2001 
Muhammad's followers, using the Koran as a guide, sent two airplanes into 
the World Trade Center killing 3000 innocent men, women and children. 
Muslims today have a PhD in rewriting history and preach in the mosques
that 
Jews were actually driving the planes, not Muslim terrorists.
  2.. Both were visited by an angel. Joseph Smith was visited by the angel

"Moroni" and Muhammad by Gabriel. Galatians 1:6-9 says, "I am amazed that 
you are so quickly deserting Him who called you by the grace of Christ,
for 
a different gospel; 7 which is really not another; only there are some who

are disturbing you, and want to distort the gospel of Christ. 8 But even 
though we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary

to that which we have preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have 
said before, so I say again now, if any man is preaching to you a gospel 
contrary to that which you received, let him be accursed."
  3.. Both were given visions.
  4.. Both were told that no true religion existed on the earth. In the 
published account of his life, Joseph Smith related that he became very 
disturbed when he was a youth because of the "strife among the different 
denominations," and this "cry and tumult" led him to ask God "which of all

the sects were right - and which I should join." He was told that he must 
"join none of them, for they were all wrong... that all their creeds were
an 
abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt..."
(Pearl 
of Great Price, Joseph Smith 2:8-19) N. J. Dawood says that Mohammed was 
also concerned with the fact that the Jews and Christians had "divided 
themselves into schismatic sects." In the scriptures given by Mohammed, we

read: "Yet the Sects are divided concerning Jesus.... Truly, the
unbelievers 
are in the grossest error." (The Koran, translated by N. J. Dawood, Surah 
19, p. 34) In Surah 30, page 190, this warning appears: "Do not split up 
your religion into sects, each exulting in its own beliefs." In Surah 3, 
page 398, we read: "The only true faith in Allah's sight is Islam. Those
to 
whom the Scriptures [i.e., Jews and Christians] were given disagreed among

themselves through jealousy only after knowledge had been given them."
  5.. Both were to restore the long lost faith as the one true religion. 
Islam makes claim that Adam and Abraham were Muslims, a claim that is as 
ridiculous as it is undocumented from either history or archaeology.
Mormons 
make the unsubstantiated claim that the church in the first century were 
Mormon.
  6.. Both wrote a book inspired by God.
  7.. Both claimed to be illiterate or uneducated and used this as proof
the 
book was inspired. "How could an illiterate man write the Koran or the
Book 
of Mormon?" Joseph Smith is claimed to have only grade three education.
  8.. Both claimed the Bible was lost, altered, corrupted and unreliable.
  9.. Both claimed their holy book was the most correct and perfect book
on 
earth.
  10.. Both claimed that their new "Bible" was based upon a record stored
in 
heaven. With Islam, it is the "mother book" that resides in heaven with
God. 
With Mormonism, it is the golden Nephi plates that the angel Moroni took 
back to heaven.
  11.. Both claim that the version we have in our hands today are
identical 
to what the prophet revealed and that parts are not lost, altered and 
corrupted. Of course the proof that these claims are invalid is found in
two 
books. The Mormon claim is proven false by a book called "3913 Changes to 
Book of Mormon" by Sandra Tanner. The Islamic claim is proven false by a 
book (In Arabic language) called, "Making Easy the Readings of What Has
Been 
Sent Down" by Muhammad Fahd Khaaruun. Both books show that the copy of the

book of Mormon and the Koran used today is different from what was 
originally used when each religion was started.
  12.. Both claimed to be a final prophet of God.
  13.. Both claimed they were persecuted because of their pure faith.
  14.. Both were polygamists who had many wives.
  15.. Both borrowed from paganism/polytheism. Muhammad incorporated that 
polytheistic moon god called "Allah" and "Allah's three daughters" into 
Islam. Basically Muhammad chose Allah from within 350 known gods that were

worshipped in Arabia and proclaimed the moon god to be the greatest and
only 
God. Smith borrowed from a doctrine called "pyramidology" and the Masons
and 
other magic systems.
  16.. Both received "after the fact corrective revelations" from God. 
Muhammad retracted the Satanic verses and Smith retracted his divine order

mandating polygamy. But for Mormons it there is even a closer parallel. 
Sounds exactly like Muhammad and his satanic verses.
    "As many false reports have been circulated respecting the following 
work, and also many unlawful measures taken by evil designing persons to 
destroy me, and also the work, I would inform you that I translated by the

gift and power of God, and caused to be written, one hundred and sixteen 
pages, the which I took from the Book of Lehi... which said account, some 
person or persons have stolen and kept from me, notwithstanding my utmost 
exertions to recover it again - and being commanded of the Lord that I 
should not translate the same over again, for Satan had put it into their 
hearts to tempt the Lord their God, by altering the words, that they did 
read contrary from that which I translated and caused to be written; and
if 
I should bring forth the same words again, or, in other words, if I should

translate the same over, they would publish that which they had stolen,
and 
Satan would stir up the hearts of this generation, that they might not 
receive this work: but behold, the Lord said unto me, I will not suffer
that 
Satan shall accomplish his evil design in this thing: therefore thou shalt

translate from the plates of Nephi, until ye come to that which ye have 
translated... I will shew unto them that my wisdom is greater than the 
cunning of the Devil." (Book of Mormon, 1830 edition, Preface)
  17.. Immediately after the death of Muhammad and Smith, a fight broke
out 
from among the "faithful converts" as to who would succeed Muhammad and 
Smith. Both groups were plunged into irreparable division that has endured

ever since. Islam and Mormonism both have squabbles among themselves as to

who is the one true splinter group of their prophet!
  18.. Mormons, contrary to the Bible, "baptize the dead" by gathering 
genealogies of all men who lived on earth. This contradicts the Bible:
"But 
avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and strife and disputes about 
the Law, for they are unprofitable and worthless." Tit 3:9 While the Bible

says avoid focusing in Genealogies, the Mormon church makes it their
central 
focus of mission. Mormons have even been criticized for baptizing, by
proxy, 
the Jews had died in Nazi Holocaust camps. When lists of genealogies are 
collected, living Mormons are baptized, on behalf of, those on the lists, 
who have already died. In this way, Mormons view every man who lived, as 
being Mormons. In the same way Muslims claim that all men are born Muslims

and when they learn the truth of Christianity, they are apostatizing from 
their first faith. Muslims re-write history by proclaiming Jesus and the 
Apostles were Muslims in a similar way Mormons baptize Jews (for example) 
with the expectation they will be Mormons in the next life. Yet gathering
of 
large genealogical lists no more makes dead people Mormons in the next
life, 
than re-writing history makes Jesus into a Muslim.
  19.. Both the Islam and Mormon religions have those who follow the 
"original doctrine" of the founding leaders and like these founding
leaders, 
are violent, polygamists, and have revelations justifying their evil 
actions.
  20.. Both Muslims and Mormons (and Jehovah's Witnesses) have progressive

revelation. Jw's call it "new light". Muslims call it "Nasikh". Jehovah's 
Witnesses were once instructed to celebrated Christmas, birthdays and
salute 
the flag, but "new light" changed all that. Mormons like all Muslims, were

originally polygamists until Joseph Smith conveniently got a revelation
from 
God on the eve of the US government outlawing the practice of polygamy.
New 
revelation always replaces older revelation that became inconvenient to
the 
prophet.
?




 1 Posts in Topic:
Modern Mohammedanism has its Mecca at Salt Lake... Clearly the K
"God Teaching You&qu  2008-04-06 22:44:33 

Post A Reply:
  Go here to Signup

AddThis Feed Button


About - Advertising - Contact - Frequently Asked Questions - Privacy Policy - Terms of Use - Signup

Contact
tan12V112 Fri Jul 4 14:25:49 CDT 2008.