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Re: (Back-Talk) Kathy Lee Gifford

by Noinden <theardri@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 1, 2008 at 10:16 AM

On Jul 1, 11:42=A0am, Alexandra Ceelie <the.netkit...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:
> Noinden wrote:
> > On Jun 30, 9:55 pm, Alexandra Ceelie <the.netkit...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > wrote:
> >> Noinden wrote:
> >>> Ren, honestly this was not directed at Neopagans. Come on!
> >> I don't know... I think I'm with ren on this one.
>
> >> The question she was asking may not have been about neopagans, but
her
> >> delivery left little question as to her feelings on the subject.
>
> >> It was akin to calling Jews nasty and bad... and trying to cover up
> >> saying, "Oh, she didn't mean YOU guys... she meant the ones who have
> >> been dead for a few thousand years..."
>
> >> Blah. A slur is a slur.
>
> >> It wasn't funny. It wasn't tasteful... and as a public spokesperson
she=

> >> really ought to have known better than to send such a hateful
message.
>
> >> My thoughts.
>
> >> =3D^..^=3D
> >> Xandra
>
> > Ahhh but one assumes she even knew what a neopagan was? It's not a
> > slur, we as a sub culture have co-opted a term, that to be honest
> > Christians have been using in a certain way longer than we have.
>
> > Further more, no Paleopagans (the term for the prechristian ones, and
> > yes a modern term) would have called them selves "pagans". Thus it's
> > not a slur.
>
> > To go furhter, the ring on the other hand.... is culturally specific,
> > and many cultures did not even do the ring thing, QED who cares?
>
> > Sorry but we look like wankes when we react like this!
>
> React like what? Having an opinion? I would feel the same had any other
> cultural reference been made and she said the same thing.
>
> Besides, it wasn't about the question... it was her snide commentary.
=A0I=

> found it offensive and unnecessary, and if being a "Wank" is the price I
> pay for having that opinion and voicing it, so be it.
>
> =3D^..^=3D
> Xandra- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Reacting like it was a deliberate attack on Pagans. It was not.
 




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(Back-Talk) Kathy Lee Gifford
ren <ren1999@[EMAIL PR  2008-06-30 08:59:58 
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Dwayne Ingles Glasscock &  2008-06-30 14:48:10 
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Noinden <theardri@[EMA  2008-06-30 13:26:55 
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Alexandra Ceelie <the.  2008-06-30 22:55:50 
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aine <aine_nicneven@[E  2008-06-30 18:21:16 
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aine <aine_nicneven@[E  2008-06-30 23:33:46 
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aine <aine_nicneven@[E  2008-07-01 00:55:16 
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Alexandra Ceelie <the.  2008-07-08 08:59:14 
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"Ares, God of War&qu  2008-07-08 10:35:10 
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mark <whitroth@[EMAIL   2008-07-07 20:29:14 
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Kerry Weaver <replyonu  2008-07-04 22:29:47 
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Noinden <theardri@[EMA  2008-07-01 06:56:48 
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Alexandra Ceelie <the.  2008-07-01 12:42:43 
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Noinden <theardri@[EMA  2008-07-01 08:15:15 
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aine <aine_nicneven@[E  2008-07-01 09:44:58 
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Alexandra Ceelie <the.  2008-07-01 13:17:31 
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Alexandra Ceelie <the.  2008-07-01 13:41:36 
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aine <aine_nicneven@[E  2008-07-01 10:07:59 
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Natalie Teeger <replyo  2008-07-01 15:19:31 
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Dwayne Ingles Glasscock &  2008-07-01 15:31:19 
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aine <aine_nicneven@[E  2008-07-02 16:22:43 
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Noinden <theardri@[EMA  2008-07-01 10:15:59 
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Noinden <theardri@[EMA  2008-07-01 10:16:14 
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aine <aine_nicneven@[E  2008-07-01 14:41:23 
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aine <aine_nicneven@[E  2008-07-07 23:52:41 
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Theoneflasehaddock <ar  2008-07-01 14:59:30 
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aine <aine_nicneven@[E  2008-07-05 12:20:47 
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mark <whitroth@[EMAIL   2008-07-06 19:35:10 
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aine <aine_nicneven@[E  2008-07-08 15:30:35 
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aine <aine_nicneven@[E  2008-07-01 16:18:06 
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Alexandra Ceelie <the.  2008-07-02 10:02:20 
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Dwayne Ingles Glasscock &  2008-07-02 10:47:49 
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Alexandra Ceelie <the.  2008-07-02 17:13:41 
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Dwayne Ingles Glasscock &  2008-07-02 22:28:03 
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aine <aine_nicneven@[E  2008-07-05 11:44:15 
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ren <ren1999@[EMAIL PR  2008-07-01 17:07:38 
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ren <ren1999@[EMAIL PR  2008-07-01 17:17:59 
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Noinden <theardri@[EMA  2008-07-02 05:17:24 
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ren <ren1999@[EMAIL PR  2008-07-02 07:26:09 
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Paul Bearer <replyonus  2008-07-02 14:27:31 
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aine <aine_nicneven@[E  2008-07-02 10:31:55 
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mark <whitroth@[EMAIL   2008-07-06 19:28:02 
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mark <whitroth@[EMAIL   2008-07-02 21:48:35 
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