"Enkidu" <zwi6iv402@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> In article <8932-410016E8-183@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> truthpilot@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says...
> > desdinova,
> >
> > You ask us to explain our beliefs. It really is pointless to throw
seeds
> > on the parched Earth of these newsgroups but then again some day the
> > rain wil come, and who knows, maybe a seed or two will sprout.
> >
> >
> > Science has proven that the physical world is an illusion. There is
no
> > SOLID matter. There is more empty space than particles that could be
> > called matter. Even these protons and neutrons are not solid and can
be
> > divided. It is all energy assuming forms under the guidance of
> > something.
>
> Well, this isn't a great start. You clearly don't understand modern
> physics. Just because the quantum domain does not follow your
> preconceived notions does not mean "there is no solid matter". It means
> that matter/energy is a more complex phenomena than was once thought.
>
> And the "guidance" idea. Where did that come from? You have some
> justification for introducing it, other than needing to slip God in
> somewhere early so you can pull him out later? That's called "begging
> the question" and invalidated any argument.
>
>
> > Sometimes this guidance is in the form of a human hand whch
> > is itself a matter phantom. SpaceTime is the illusion created for a
> > purpose we can not fathom.
>
> And the "created for a purpose" idea. Where did that come from? You
> have some justification for introducing it, other than needing to slip a
> created universe in somewhere early so you can pull a creator out later?
> That's called "begging the question" and invalidated any argument.
>
> > Quantum Physics opens up the possibility of
> > parallel worlds(mutiverse) or in other words, completely valid
spacetime
> > universes other than the one we appear to be in.
>
> Mathematically, perhaps. But since we don't have a complete model that
> explains our observable universe yet, it's pointless to speculate based
> on extrapolations of our current conflicting and incomplete models.
>
> > I don't want to give away too many specifics of my beliefs in this
> > forum as a weasel like ERIC V. GILL will find some way to charge
people
> > $30 for it.
>
> I think it more likely that you can't put you beliefs in a coherent form
> that will withstand criticism. Frankly, you've botched the job so far.
>
> > Let me say that those who seek power are those that feel powerless.
>
> Or those who have power and want to keep it.
>
> > Those who seek to control are the ones who feel out of control.
>
> Or those who are in control and want to maintain control.
>
> > Those who seek notice are the ones that feel unnoticed.
>
> Everyone wants his 15 minutes, I guess. But this is pointless. You are
> criticizing motivation rather than arguments people. I don't give a
> rat's ass if Stephen Hawking is advancing his cosmological models
> because he needs an outlet for his suppressed ***uality or to "feel
> noticed". Is he right? That's the only im****tant question.
>
> > The physical reality
> > we are in is based upon dichotomy. In quantum physics when a particle
is
> > split into two connected particles(I really have a hard time
explaining
> > how a particle can be two but still be one) these connected particles
> > will be polar opposittes.
>
> What? This is crap. Photons (no charge, no magnetic moment) can be
> entangled. You have trouble explaining it because you don't understand
> it.
>
> > Now we can take this quantum example and apply it to human social
> > interactions. If your Dad is a religious Zealot then there is a good
> > chance you will become an Atheist Zealot.
>
> Hip waders aren't enough! The ****'s too deep! I need my mask and
> snorkel. You don't understand quantum electrodynamics. You take a
> flawed reading of a theory you don't understand, and you extrapolate it
> into a realm it does not apply, and your result is counter to every
> survey and study, anecdote and casual observation ever made about how
> humans acquire religious beliefs. There can be no doubt that the vast
> majority of humans follow the religious teachings of their parents.
>
> > I guess what you want to know is how GOD does and doesn't exist at the
> > same time. It is the limitations of the spacetime illusion you are
> > living that makes this sound impossible.
>
> God exists in your frightened little mind, and comforts you like a
> stuffed rabbit comforts a small child. God does not exist in the real
> universe. That is how God exists and doesn't exist at the same time.
>
> > To say that there is no God is just as valid and false as saying that
> > there is a GOD.
>
> One half-right statement in your entire post, and you saved it for the
> end. Next time put it at the top, and label it so I don't have to read
> the entire post.
>
Simply put: Everything exists and doesn't exist? Who are these guys?
S'cuse me whilst I go figure........
--
Desdinova aa #2182
EAC Director of Research and Destroy, Black Helicopter Pilot
"Religion is what the common people see as true,
the wise people see as false, and the rulers see as useful."
-Seneca
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