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The Real Junk Science

by Dan Clore <clore@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 15, 2005 at 01:55 AM

The Real Junk Science
By George Monbiot, AlterNet
May 14, 2005
http://www.alternet.org/story/22008/

For the past three weeks, a set of figures has been working 
a hole in my mind. On April 16, New Scientist published a 
letter from the famous botanist David Bellamy. Many of the 
world's glaciers, he claimed, "are not shrinking but in fact 
are growing. . . . 555 of all the 625 glaciers under 
observation by the World Glacier Monitoring Service in 
Zurich, Switzerland, have been growing since 1980."

His letter was instantly taken up by climate change deniers. 
And it began to worry me. What if Bellamy was right?

He is a scientist, formerly a senior lecturer at the 
University of Durham. He knows, in other words, that you 
cannot credibly cite data unless it is well-sourced. Could 
it be that one of the main lines of evidence of the impacts 
of global warming -- the retreat of the world's glaciers -- 
was wrong?

The question could scarcely be more im****tant. If man-made 
climate change is happening, as the great majority of the 
world's climatologists claim, it could destroy the 
conditions which allow human beings to remain on the planet. 
The effort to cut greenhouse gases must come before 
everything else. This won't happen unless we can be 
confident that the science is right. Because Bellamy is 
president of the Conservation Foundation, the Wildlife 
Trusts, Plantlife International and the British Naturalists' 
Association, his statements carry a great deal of weight. 
When, for example, I challenged the Society of Motor 
Manufacturers and Traders over climate change, its spokesman 
cited Bellamy's position as a reason for remaining sceptical.

So last week I telephoned the World Glacier Monitoring 
Service and read out Bellamy's letter. I don't think the 
response would have been published in Nature, but it had the 
scientific virtue of clarity. "This is complete bull****." A 
few hours later, they sent me an email.

"Despite his scientific reputation, he makes all the 
mistakes that are possible." He had cited data which was 
simply false, failed to provide references, completely 
misunderstood the scientific context and neglected current 
scientific literature. The latest studies show unequivocally 
that most of the world's glaciers are retreating.

But I still couldn't put the question out of my mind. The 
figures Bellamy cited must have come from somewhere. I 
emailed him to ask for his source. After several requests, 
he replied to me at the end of last week. The data, he said, 
came from a website called http://www.iceagenow.com
.

Iceagenow.com was constructed by a man called Robert W. 
Felix to promote his self-published book about "the coming 
ice age." It claims that sea levels are falling, not rising; 
that the Asian tsunami was caused by the "ice age cycle"; 
and that "underwater volcanic activity -- not human activity 
-- is heating the seas."

Is Felix a climatologist, a vulcanologist, or an 
oceanographer? Er, none of the above. His biography 
describes him as a "former architect." His website is so 
bonkers that I thought at first it was a spoof. Sadly, he 
appears to believe what he says. But there indeed was all 
the material Bellamy cited in his letter, including the 
figures -- or something resembling the figures -- he quoted. 
"Since 1980, there has been an advance of more than 55% of 
the 625 mountain glaciers under observation by the World 
Glacier Monitoring group in Zurich." The source, which 
Bellamy also cited in his email to me, was given as "the 
latest issue of 21st Century Science and Technology."

21st Century Science and Technology? It sounds impressive, 
until you discover that it is published by Lyndon Larouche. 
Lyndon Larouche is the American demagogue who in 1989 
received a 15-year sentence for conspiracy, mail fraud and 
tax code violations. He has claimed that the British royal 
family is running an international drugs syndicate, that 
Henry Kissinger is a communist agent, that the British 
government is controlled by Jewish bankers, and that modern 
science is a conspiracy against human potential.

It wasn't hard to find out that this is one of his vehicles: 
Larouche is named on the front page of the magazine's 
website, and the edition Bellamy cites contains an article 
beginning with the words "We in LaRouche's Youth Movement 
find ourselves in combat with an old enemy that destroys 
human beings . . . it is empiricism."

Oh well, at least there is a source for Bellamy's figures. 
But where did 21st Century Science and Technology get them 
from? It doesn't say. But I think we can make an informed 
guess, for the same data can be found all over the internet. 
They were first published online by Professor Fred Singer, 
one of the very few climate change deniers who has a vaguely 
relevant qualification (he is, or was, an environmental 
scientist). He posted them on his website 
http://www.sepp.org
, and they were then reproduced by the 
appropriately named http://junkscience.com
, by the Cooler 
Heads Coalition, the National Center for Public Policy 
Research and countless others. They have even found their 
way into the Wa****ngton Post. They are constantly quoted as 
evidence that manmade climate change is not happening. But 
where did they come from? Singer cites half a source: "a 
paper published in Science in 1989." Well, the paper might 
be 16 years old, but at least, and at last, there is one. 
Surely?

I went through every edition of Science published in 1989, 
both manually and electronically. Not only did it contain 
nothing resembling those figures; throughout that year there 
was no paper published in this journal about glacial advance 
or retreat.

So it wasn't looking too good for Bellamy, or Singer, or any 
of the deniers who have cited these figures. But there was 
still one mystery to clear up. While Bellamy's source 
claimed that 55% of 625 glaciers are advancing, Bellamy 
claimed that 555 of them -- or 89% -- are advancing. This 
figure appears to exist nowhere else. But on the standard 
English keyboard, 5 and % occupy the same key. If you try to 
hit %, but fail to press ****ft, you get 555, instead of 55%. 
This is the only explanation I can produce for his figure. 
When I challenged him, he admitted that there had been "a 
glitch of the electronics."

So, in Bellamy's poor typing, we have the basis for a whole 
new front in the war against climate science. The 555 figure 
is now being cited as definitive evidence that global 
warming is a "fraud," a "scam," a "lie." I phoned New 
Scientist to ask if he had requested a correction. He had 
not been in touch.

It is hard to convey just how selective you have to be to 
dismiss the evidence for climate change. You must climb over 
a mountain of evidence to pick up a crumb: a crumb which 
then disintegrates in your palm. You must ignore an entire 
canon of science, the statements of the world's most eminent 
scientific institutions, and thousands of papers published 
in the foremost scientific journals. You must, if you are 
David Bellamy, embrace instead the claims of an eccentric 
former architect, which are based on what appears to be a 
non-existent data set. And you must do all this while 
calling yourself a scientist.

George Monbiot is the author of 'Poisoned Arrows' and 'No 
Man's Land' (Green Books). Read more of his writings at 
http://Monbiot.com

http://www.alternet.org/story/22008/

-- 
Dan Clore

My collected fiction, _The Unspeakable and Others_:
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News & Views for Anarchists & Activists:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/smygo

Strange pleasures are known to him who flaunts the
immarcescible purple of poetry before the color-blind.
-- Clark Ashton Smith, "Epigrams and Apothegms"
 




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