Re: Religion Instead of Science

wcb wrote:
> Richard Forrest wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Robert J. Kolker wrote:
> >> Richard Forrest wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Robert J. Kolker wrote:
> >> > <snipped>
> >> >
> >> >>In the West they invented operations to take out inflamed
appnedices.
> >> >>In the Moslem countries they invented operations to remove the
> >> >>****orises of females. There go your Moslems, Thomas. Different
God,
> >> >>different mountain.
> >> >>
> >> >>Bob Kolker
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > The Islamic world pioneered modern medicine and surgery
> >>
> >> That is lovely. Then their progress stopped in the 13-th century.
That
> >> is only 700 years of darkness. Al Islam has betrayed its early
promise.
> >> While the rest of the world, particularly the seclar west advanced,
Al
> >> Islam sunk back into darkness. The Moslems are the greatest thinkers
of
> >> the Middle Ages.
> >>
> >> Now the Moslems are not only retrograde and reactionary, they are
> >> positively dangerous to the rest of us.
> >>
> >> Bob Kolker
> >
> >
> > So you were wrong about their contribution to science because you are
> > ignorant on the subject.
> >
> > Perhaps you are also wrong about their 'danger to the rest of us'
> > because you are ignorant on the subject.
> >
> > Incidentally, 'Christians' in Northern Ireland were guilty of
> > indiscriminate bombings, and pioneered the use of car bombs.
> >
> > RF
>
> If you really knew much about Islamic science and
> Medicine, you'd know many of its  best were usually
> considered at best luke warm Moslems.

I'm not claiming any great knowledge of Islamic science, merely
pointing out that Kolker made two factually incorrect statements
because he is blinded by the ignorance of predjudice and racism.

Abdominal surgery was not invented in the West.
Female cir***cision was not invented by Islamic surgeons.


> When medicine came to the West, it remained the same.
>
> "Where you have three physicians, you have two atheists".
>   An old medieval saying.
>
> And of course we always ignore the Byzantine contribution
> to both Western and Islamic medicine.
> And of course we do note that Islamic comntributions did
> taper off rapidly after al Ghazali and the cru****ng of philosophy
> by the mullahs.
>

Perhaps there's a lesson in there for the USA.

>
> --
>
> When I shake my killfile, I can hear them buzzing!
> 
> Cheerful Charlie