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Re: Creationists Don't Like Other Sciences, Either

by Dick C <foo.dickcr@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jan 21, 2007 at 10:39 AM

Luminoso wrote in talk.origins

> Ernest Major <{$to$}@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> 
>>In message <45b13034.8694484@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, Luminoso 
>><luminoso@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes
>>>On 19 Jan 2007 10:07:50 -0800, riplin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Luminoso wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>    With the ice coming
>>>>>    out of the equation there would be a (relatively) rapid
>>>>>    temperature increase until the new equilibrium point
>>>>>    is reached.
>>>>
>>>>The then is: what is that point, and can we survive it ?
>>>
>>>   Sure.
>>
>>What about surviving, but with trillions of dollars of economic losses?
> 
>    Pulling the plug on carbon-based fuels would also result in
>    trillions lost ... and a far more rapid ****ft towards Chinese
>    industrial domination, since China won't stop using such fuels.

What? Do you think that we are all going to get up tomorrow and just
stop using fossil based fuels? Stop driving our cars, stop generating
electricity, stop manufacturing our goods? Stop heating our homes?
That is not going to happen, and nobody except the  most demented
extremists would even consider that. What needs to be done is to invest
in research and development of alternative fuels. And that investment
will pay off massively, even without global warming. Simply because we
are running out of fossil fuels. 
 The U.S. is probably the biggest consumer of fossil fuels, and we need
to be looking for viable alternatives to them. Something that will be
more efficient and cheap. We are not going to give up the luxuries we have
easily, so we need to find someway to make them work. We are not likely to
give up our cars. Most people live too far away to walk, and buses are an
excellent alternative for some, they are no alternative for many or most
people. 
We are not going to quit heating our houses, but we need some clean and 
safe alternative to heating oil, or coal powered generators, or even 
natural gas. 
We need to develop the alternatives. And we need to do it now. One sad
note
in the whole debacle is that Jimmy Carter, when he was president, had a 
program that offered tax credits for the development of alterative fuels. 
When Reagan took over one of the first programs to go was that.
And the interesting thing about all of this, is that the companies that 
whine the loudest, and fight the hardest against these ideas are the very 
companies that are the most threatened by not developing alternative
fuels.
The big oil companies are in the best position to research, develop and 
distribute alternative fuels. And that would give them the tax credits
they
are always crying for, and ultimately would make them the profits they
love 
so much.


-- 
Dick #1349
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little tem****ary 
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
~Benjamin Franklin

Home Page: dickcr.iwarp.com
email: dickcr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 




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Creationists Don't Like Other Sciences, Either
Dan Clore <clore@[EMAI  2007-01-12 09:55:13 
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"jcon" <cire  2007-01-12 11:26:29 
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"George" <ge  2007-01-12 14:54:59 
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"Kermit" <un  2007-01-12 12:05:08 
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bdbryant@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-01-12 20:27:13 
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Shane <remarcsd@[EMAIL  2007-01-13 08:20:58 
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"John Bode" <  2007-01-12 13:34:36 
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"Desertphile" &  2007-01-12 14:08:34 
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CreateThis <CreateThis  2007-01-12 21:40:04 
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HiEv <spam@[EMAIL PROT  2007-01-13 05:36:43 
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"eyelessgame" &  2007-01-15 09:19:29 
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riplin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-01-12 14:18:43 
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moxmaniac@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-01-12 16:25:50 
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Luminoso <luminoso@[EM  2007-01-13 02:48:48 
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Free Lunch <lunch@[EMA  2007-01-12 20:51:57 
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Luminoso <luminoso@[EM  2007-01-14 06:22:44 
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Dan Clore <clore@[EMAI  2007-01-13 13:01:19 
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Free Lunch <lunch@[EMA  2007-01-13 15:19:58 
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Luminoso <luminoso@[EM  2007-01-14 06:23:39 
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Free Lunch <lunch@[EMA  2007-01-14 09:44:10 
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luminoso@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-01-14 19:24:00 
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Free Lunch <lunch@[EMA  2007-01-14 18:16:49 
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luminoso@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-01-15 11:50:23 
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Ye Old One <usenet@[EM  2007-01-15 13:05:06 
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luminoso@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-01-15 20:33:20 
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Free Lunch <lunch@[EMA  2007-01-15 14:42:20 
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Ye Old One <usenet@[EM  2007-01-15 21:03:01 
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luminoso@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-01-15 22:48:30 
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Robin Levett <rnlevett  2007-01-16 00:20:40 
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riplin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-01-16 00:58:08 
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luminoso@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-01-18 21:48:57 
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riplin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-01-19 10:07:50 
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luminoso@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-01-19 21:52:18 
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Ernest Major <{$to$}@[  2007-01-19 22:31:07 
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Luminoso <luminoso@[EM  2007-01-21 03:02:15 
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Ernest Major <{$to$}@[  2007-01-21 10:55:40 
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Dick C <foo.dickcr@[EM  2007-01-21 10:39:16 
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Jim Lovejoy <nospam@[E  2007-01-21 22:29:07 
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luminoso@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-01-30 14:20:58 
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Ye Old One <usenet@[EM  2007-01-30 18:01:22 
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luminoso@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-01-30 21:41:14 
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Ernest Major <{$to$}@[  2007-01-30 21:57:08 
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luminoso@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-01-30 22:39:50 
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bdbryant@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-01-20 01:58:18 
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Luminoso <luminoso@[EM  2007-01-20 05:10:52 
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HiEv <spam@[EMAIL PROT  2007-01-16 04:16:42 
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Mark Isaak <eciton@[EM  2007-01-16 19:44:34 
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luminoso@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-01-18 22:05:27 
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Mark Isaak <eciton@[EM  2007-01-19 18:00:32 
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luminoso@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-01-19 22:13:11 
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Mark Isaak <eciton@[EM  2007-01-19 23:56:09 
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Luminoso <luminoso@[EM  2007-01-20 05:06:39 
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Mark Isaak <eciton@[EM  2007-01-20 23:25:59 
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Luminoso <luminoso@[EM  2007-01-21 03:15:31 
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Mark Isaak <eciton@[EM  2007-01-21 16:01:38 
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luminoso@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-01-22 12:37:12 
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Mark Isaak <eciton@[EM  2007-01-22 18:28:13 
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luminoso@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-01-22 19:42:47 
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HiEv <spam@[EMAIL PROT  2007-01-22 13:42:25 
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Ernest Major <{$to$}@[  2007-01-22 18:41:13 
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luminoso@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-01-22 19:47:15 
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Ernest Major <{$to$}@[  2007-01-22 20:14:39 
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Luminoso <luminoso@[EM  2007-01-23 03:07:53 
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HiEv <spam@[EMAIL PROT  2007-01-23 03:03:27 
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luminoso@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-01-23 12:14:05 
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bobg@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2007-01-23 14:44:20 
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luminoso@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-01-23 20:49:10 
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Robin Levett <rnlevett  2007-01-24 04:31:31 
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luminoso@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-01-24 14:29:32 
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bobg@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2007-01-24 15:36:09 
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catHORMELes@[EMAIL PROTEC  2007-01-24 16:49:46 
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HiEv <spam@[EMAIL PROT  2007-01-16 02:42:21 
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Free Lunch <lunch@[EMA  2007-01-15 09:02:43 
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luminoso@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-01-15 20:37:59 
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Free Lunch <lunch@[EMA  2007-01-15 14:45:09 
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luminoso@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-01-15 22:54:17 
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Robin Levett <rnlevett  2007-01-16 00:29:47 
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luminoso@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-01-14 19:19:13 
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bdbryant@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-01-14 20:45:17 
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Free Lunch <lunch@[EMA  2007-01-14 18:27:03 
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luminoso@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-01-15 12:15:25 
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Free Lunch <lunch@[EMA  2007-01-15 09:07:26 
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"Fooj" <dean  2007-01-15 17:01:32 
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HiEv <spam@[EMAIL PROT  2007-01-16 01:08:30 
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"jcon" <cire  2007-01-16 10:03:40 
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"Lee Jay" <l  2007-01-14 16:30:11 
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luminoso@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-01-15 12:23:02 
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HiEv <spam@[EMAIL PROT  2007-01-15 08:31:30 
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HiEv <spam@[EMAIL PROT  2007-01-14 21:00:07 
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luminoso@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-01-15 13:13:33 
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HiEv <spam@[EMAIL PROT  2007-01-15 08:50:37 
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bobg@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2007-01-15 14:25:48 
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Dan Clore <clore@[EMAI  2007-01-15 16:53:11 
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"Desertphile" &  2007-01-14 08:00:20 
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"eyelessgame" &  2007-01-15 09:23:35 
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HiEv <spam@[EMAIL PROT  2007-01-16 01:13:08 
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"Rolf" <rolf  2007-01-13 11:30:32 
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Rich Townsend <rhdt@[E  2007-01-13 08:14:44 
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HiEv <spam@[EMAIL PROT  2007-01-13 18:05:28 
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"Desertphile" &  2007-01-14 08:09:42 

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