David St. Albans wrote:
> Fallacy Number One. Neanderthal man was somehow less human or less
> intelligent than ourselves. This can never be determined, as they are
> an extinct species of man. Since their brain capacity was near ours,
> and their strength was greater (based on bone structure) they may have
> been extremely intelligent and capable. Since they lasted as a species
> for so long, there is no reason not to think this. What Hybrid does is
> "ethnocentric" thinking. He claims great things for Cro-Magnon, but
> claims Neanderthals were almost cave-dwelling monkeys. This is
> absolutely not true.They were capable hunters and gatherers. Their
> intellect might have been "different" than ours, just as ours is
> different from dolphins or whales, very intelligent beings which
> nevertheless have different paths of intellect than ours.
>
> Fallacy Number Two. Neanderthals and Cro-Magnon co-mingled and
> reproduced together. Evidence suggests otherwise. They diverged from
> one another at some point and became two wholly different species.
> There is no evidence whatsoever for any cohabitation or comingling of
> the two species. If there were, so what? It would simply mean that
> species can cross with one another. That it created a race of
> intellectual "superior" people is non-provable. Lions can comingle
> with tigers. And you get a liger. So what? They are both big cats. The
> trouble is they would not fit into either species group and would
> normaly perish as a separate species. They would breed either with
> tigers and become fully tigers or lions and become fully lions.
>
> Fallacy Number Three: Neanderthal Genomes were "different" than either
> Homo Sapiens, Home Erectus, or Homo Neanderthalis. This is a fallacy.
> All great apes, including the Homo genus all have the same or
> extremely similar genomes. All of us are related. It is the tiny
> "differences" in Homo Sapiens that have NOT been passed on to Chimps,
> Ourangs, Gorillas, Gibbons, or Ancient Neanderthals,that make us
> different from our relatives. So different that many of us, like
> Hybrid cannot seem to see the relation****p still exists! But we are
> MORE SIMILAR than we are different. Of course we have 99. whatever
> neanderthal genome, it is the same we share with all great apes. What
> we do not have is the Neanderthal Difference, or the Gorilla
> Difference or the Ourang difference, etc. And they did not and do not
> share ours. We are not intelligent because of a hybridization, but
> rather due to an EVOLUTION of our genetic structures as Homo Sapiens.
>
> Fallacy Number Four. Cain Knew His Wife. This is a Biblical line and
> it means actually that Cain had *** with his wife. That's all. Cain
> himself is a mythological character. There is no historical
> verification that such a person ever lived. and scientifically it is
> impossible. Cain and Able were the sons of Adam and Eve. To say that
> our entire race came from two people is scientifically impossible. It
> takes at least seven different genome patterns to establish a colony
> of human beings. The Bible does not say who Cain's wife was or where
> she came from. Since there were only Adam and Eve, there were no other
> women. This means the Bible is fallacious and is dealing with metaphor
> and myth. Hybrid's idea is that somehow Cain, Adam and Eve were all
> Homo Sapiens, and the rest of the world was inhabited by Henaderthals.
> All right. Fine. Maybe it was. The superior genetic coding of Cain
> would have superceded and sublimated ALL Neanderthal coding thereafter
> and all his offspring would be Homo Sapiens. Or there would be
> positive proof of hybridization. There is NO proof of any sort of
> hybridization. Therefore this argument of Hybrid's is moot. It is
> fallacious as well since no proof is ever brought forward. In fact
> most of his proofs are AGAINST his own arguments. Below is an example
> of his self-defeating argument.
>
>
>
>>The findings also appear to refute speculations by some scientists
>>that Neanderthals and humans interbred in more recent times. "We
>>see no evidence of mixing 30,000 years ago in Europe," Rubin said.
>>"We don't exclude it, but from the data that we have, we have no
>>evidence that pages were ripped from one genome and put in the
>>other."
>
>
> Fallacy Number Four: > Those pages they're looking for are, Genesis
> Chapter 1 to
>
>>Chapter 4:1...ripped genome..17, into.."Cain's wife"! From
>>the 'people in the wilderness', whom he thought would kill
>>him. The Neanderthal.....
>>
>
> Speculation: > The Almighty does work in mysterious ways....
>
>
> Speculation: Not proven: > And within 30,000+/- years the
> hybridization was complete.
>
>>(Cain must have interbred shortly after they ended up in
>>Northern Israel.)
>
>
> Rampant speculation and rewriting of Biblical texts: > Adam and Eve
> were kept on ice.....because when the 30,000
>
>>year hybridizing was complete, with Lamech. The second
>>genome Seth, was born. Same page, second genome.....26,
>>ripped and put in another. Inbreeding with the offspring of
>>his brother. Who were modern intelligent, human beings.
>>NOT Neanderthals.....
>
>
> As we can see this is pseudo-science at its worst. It is not based on
> science or the Bible. So it is not even a theory. It is a fantasy.
>
> Fallacy Number Five is that the Bible has anything to do with modern
> science or vice versa. The idea that God exists, created mankind and
> the world in six days is not within the realm of scientific
> specualtion at all. Since the Bible makes many inaccurate statements
> about geology, astronomy, measurements, weights, types, species,
> engineering, physics and biology we can contend that the Bible is not
> a sound basis for Science at all. And that science does not appear in
> the Bible in a modern form. So if Hybrid wants to continue his
> fallacious arguments, so be it. Have fun. But it is all specious
> garbage.
>
>
> Saint
Sorry, so far there is no viable scientific evidence that human and
neanderthal are anything but as described in Genesis (despite the OP's
slightly inaccurate evaluation of the Genesis text). Genome sequencing
is a clear marker only when one understands that similarity is not the
ultimate indicator but difference no matter how slight is.
If atheist evolutionists didn't obsess so on proving that God doesn't
exist they might get a clearer picture of how science works. In this
regard you may benefit from reading some Kuhn:
http://www.des.emory.edu/mfp/Kuhn.html
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