Re: 17 Proofs Of No Evolution

Drafterman wrote:
> On Apr 23, 11:19 am, Tokay Pino Gris <tokay.gris.b...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> Mark Earnest wrote:
>>> "Tokay Pino Gris" <tokay.gris.b...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>> news:fulstj$4fd$02$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> Mark Earnest wrote:
>>>>> "David St. Albans" <whisperind...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>>>>
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>>>>>>> But how will you know the difference between good and evil unless
>>>>>>> God lets you know somehow?- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>> The answer is: You are already part of God. You already know. In
fact
>>>>>> you cannot be ignorant of it. There is no way to "not know" the
>>>>>> difference. You either choose one way or the other. God does not
tell
>>>>>> anyone what to do, where to go, how to think, eat, wor****p, ****,
>>>>>> procreate, sleep, breathe or watch TV. The Bible is a way to make
>>>>>> people do things. Not to teach them right from wrong.
>>>>>> Thou shalt not steal??? Yeah, uh I think that was probably a given
>>>>>> even in Og the Caveman's day. No God had to tell him that. Besides
>>>>>> which, Hammurabo wrote that law down long before Moses existed. So
we
>>>>>> know God did not invent that commandment. In fact he invented no
>>>>>> commandments, because Seon is right. God gives uncondtional free
will.
>>>>>> It is the only just way to allow a person to make up his or her own
>>>>>> mind what path they will follow.
>>>>> Without the commandment not to steel, written first in the book and
from
>>>>> that onto men's hearts, man would steel if he thought he could get
away
>>>>> with it.
>>>>> That is his nature.
>>>> Wrong.
>>>> I can imagine situations where stealing is far from "evil".
>>> You can find goodness in almost any deed of man.
>>> Even the infamous Judas probably thought he was forcing Jesus
>>> to prove himself to the world.
>>> Even Hitler probably thought he was avenging Jesus for what the Jews
>>> did to him.
>>>> The world is not black and white. Nothing is.
>>>>> And forget Og.  All humanoids before 4,000 B.C. were animals.
>>>>> Animals just live to eat and procreate, and always steel whatever
food
>>>>> they can, except from their babies.
>>>> Full circle again, but another topic: evidence for this?
>>> Nothing but the ultimate premise.
>>> When you find out what that one is, you will have your evidence.
>> That is the difference: In science, you have NO ultimate premise.
> 
> I apologize for jumping in the middle here but yo be fair science, as
> in all systems of knowledge, must rest on axioms. Axioms are the
> ultimate premises, or first principles.
> 
> Such as the law of non-contradiction.
> Or that science assumes the universe is as it appears to be (that is,
> it does not take a solipsistic approach).
> Science also uses math and, thus, inherents all mathematical axioms as
> well.
> 
> That is not to say we cannot scrutinize the axioms, but there can be
> no a prioi sup****t for them.

Hm, ok. I stand corrected. However, even these axioms COULD in theory be 
proven wrong. Maybe we find out one day that the world we see is NOT how 
it is. Unlikely and not worth considering UNTIL you can disprove it, but 
nonetheless, the option is there.


Tokay


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