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Re: 17 Proofs Of No Evolution

by "David H. Ellison" <life@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 29, 2008 at 04:46 AM

I think it is just as ridiculous to allow "science" to define proof, as 
it is to allow "religion" to do so.... uhmm or are we talking God?


XeNO wrote:
> Apparently you use a much broader definition of proof than science does.
>
> If God is the cause of nature, then there should be some aspect of god 
> that is definable and testable.  
Why?
> Oh, and people have tried that... the best conclusion one can come up 
> with is that supernatural phenomenon are at best not discernible from 
> natural phenomenon.  So we simply take the simplest explanation, 
> because in order to "prove" god did something you would first have to 
> be able to build a model for god... but you yourself claim that god is 
> uncomprehendible, and beyond human understanding--or do you deny that 
> he's posited as being beyond the realm of human senses?
>
> So which is it?
>
> 1.  God is comprehendible by man.
>
> 2.  God is not comprehendible by man.
Wow, there are only 2 possible conclusions in such a large universe, or 
--- in such a small imagination.
>
> If God is not comprehendible by man, then it is fruitless to try to 
> describe nature in terms of God because why should we engage in 
> "comprehending the incomprehensible?"  We can only describe nature in 
> terms of nature--we are limited by our 5 senses, hence Evolution, 
> heliocentrism, quantum physics, etc.
>
> If God is comprehendible by man, then there should be some aspect 
> somewhere that we can empirically confirm or refute him... in other 
> words we'd have to have the capacity to prove or disprove God 
> exists--but we've all figured out that this act is not possible.  
> (Even though lack of evidence certainly suggests otherwise.)  So if 
> God is comprehensible by man--what faculty allows us to do this?
>
> --XeNO
> aa#1901
The major limitation of  western thought, seems to be language. The law 
of the excluded middle, as if (don't you love those two little words?) 
either/or, is some sort of "Universal" (LOL when was the last time 
anyone journey off planet?) determinate.

So here is a good either/or, who is more close-minded, or who 
proselytizes more, a Jehovah's Witness or an Atheist? I think they are 
about as different as natural and super-natural, or Godly and Godless 
--- that is to say, not at all. Let me know when you're through dividing 
the the universe amongst yourself, I can use a good laugh.
>
>
>
> "HVAC" <MR.HVAC@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
>
news:f53cf3c7-85d7-49ac-8566-cc75c202eaf3@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> Here's the best *proof*
>>
>>
>> 17. THE BIBLE
>> Lastly, and most im****tantly, the Bible says that God created the
>> universe and every living thing, so the world must have been created.
>> In denying this we call God a liar. And so you can see how evolution
>> theory undermines the omniscience and even the existence of God. And
>> if there is no God, why not do our own thing? Or if God is not all-
>> knowing, indeed, a liar, why put our trust in Him? Evolution theory
>> logically leads to these humanistic ideas. Christians must take a
>> stand for the Word of God, or be accountable on that judgment day for
>> the souls of those whom we did not warn.
>>
>>
>> http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evolution%20Hoax/evidences.htm#17

>
 




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17 Proofs Of No Evolution
HVAC <MR.HVAC@[EMAIL P  2008-04-20 04:43:27 
Re: 17 Proofs Of No Evolution
Richard Anacker <spam.  2008-04-20 15:20:13 
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bushlyed <bushlyed@[EM  2008-04-20 06:25:35 
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"Seon Ferguson"  2008-04-21 13:54:15 
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Conspiracy of Doves <m  2008-04-20 07:20:21 
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"XeNO" <xeno  2008-04-20 09:35:30 
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"Hybrid Angel/Messen  2008-04-23 12:56:52 
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"David H. Ellison&qu  2008-04-29 04:46:52 
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DanielSan <danielsan19  2008-04-28 21:48:00 
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"David H. Ellison&qu  2008-04-29 15:56:34 
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BDK <BDK@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-20 12:03:39 
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"David H. Ellison&qu  2008-04-29 15:59:13 
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Tokay Pino Gris <tokay  2008-04-20 18:09:21 
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Dubh Ghall <puck@[EMAI  2008-04-20 19:10:33 
17 Evidences Against Evolution - refuted!
Budikka666 <budikka1@[  2008-04-20 14:20:58 
Re: 17 Evidences Against Evolution - refuted!
"Bill M" <wm  2008-04-20 19:23:02 
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"Seon Ferguson"  2008-04-21 13:53:07 
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"Mark Earnest"   2008-04-20 23:08:27 
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DanielSan <danielsan19  2008-04-20 21:14:53 
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Free Lunch <lunch@[EMA  2008-04-20 23:15:49 
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"Seon Ferguson"  2008-04-21 15:45:53 
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"Mark Earnest"   2008-04-21 01:01:30 
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"Seon Ferguson"  2008-04-21 16:26:00 
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Tokay Pino Gris <tokay  2008-04-21 17:09:52 
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"Mark Earnest"   2008-04-21 16:01:48 
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Richard Anacker <spam.  2008-04-21 23:04:41 
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Tokay Pino Gris <tokay  2008-04-22 20:47:06 
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Dubh Ghall <puck@[EMAI  2008-04-22 07:46:49 
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Tokay Pino Gris <tokay  2008-04-22 20:46:43 
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"Mark Earnest"   2008-04-21 01:12:36 
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"Seon Ferguson"  2008-04-21 16:30:36 
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Drafterman <drafterman  2008-04-23 14:24:28 
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Dubh Ghall <puck@[EMAI  2008-04-24 01:25:27 
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"David St. Albans&qu  2008-04-20 21:15:54 
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"Mark Earnest"   2008-04-20 23:50:15 
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Tokay Pino Gris <tokay  2008-04-21 07:24:54 
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"Mark Earnest"   2008-04-21 01:04:02 
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Tokay Pino Gris <tokay  2008-04-21 17:11:15 
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"Mark Earnest"   2008-04-21 16:04:43 
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Tokay Pino Gris <tokay  2008-04-22 20:49:11 
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"Mark Earnest"   2008-04-22 19:05:51 
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Dubh Ghall <puck@[EMAI  2008-04-23 07:15:08 
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"Mark Earnest"   2008-04-23 17:24:46 
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Dubh Ghall <puck@[EMAI  2008-04-24 01:27:26 
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"Mark Earnest"   2008-04-23 22:23:17 
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Azure <laddie'o'lugh@[  2008-04-23 22:01:48 
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Dubh Ghall <puck@[EMAI  2008-04-24 09:54:41 
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Tokay Pino Gris <tokay  2008-04-23 17:22:26 
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"Mark Earnest"   2008-04-23 17:25:41 
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Kelsey Bjarnason <kbja  2008-04-24 10:08:03 
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"Hybrid Angel/Messen  2008-04-24 19:32:10 
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"David St. Albans&qu  2008-04-20 21:22:21 
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"Mark Earnest"   2008-04-20 23:48:46 
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"Seon Ferguson"  2008-04-21 15:47:13 
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"*_//!!_//!!*"   2008-04-22 22:22:36 
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me@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-23 14:40:55 
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Free Lunch <lunch@[EMA  2008-04-23 18:08:18 
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"*_//!!_//!!*"   2008-04-24 10:10:38 
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"*_//!!_//!!*"   2008-04-24 10:10:24 
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Free Lunch <lunch@[EMA  2008-04-24 18:43:10 
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Dubh Ghall <puck@[EMAI  2008-04-25 10:22:39 
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Free Lunch <lunch@[EMA  2008-04-24 18:42:17 
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george <gblack@[EMAIL   2008-04-20 21:23:45 
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Richo <m.richardson61@  2008-04-20 21:29:16 
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Dubh Ghall <puck@[EMAI  2008-04-21 11:07:03 
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"David St. Albans&qu  2008-04-22 00:06:23 
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"David St. Albans&qu  2008-04-22 00:13:29 
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Tokay Pino Gris <tokay  2008-04-22 21:00:26 
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"David St. Albans&qu  2008-04-22 00:17:48 
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"Mark Earnest"   2008-04-22 02:54:15 
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Tokay Pino Gris <tokay  2008-04-23 01:38:28 
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"Mark Earnest"   2008-04-22 19:04:18 
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Tokay Pino Gris <tokay  2008-04-23 17:19:36 
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"Mark Earnest"   2008-04-23 17:21:37 
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Kelsey Bjarnason <kbja  2008-04-22 21:08:02 
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"Mark Earnest"   2008-04-22 19:01:24 
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Free Lunch <lunch@[EMA  2008-04-23 02:48:18 
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Tervicz <tervicz2003@[  2008-04-23 06:11:05 
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Drafterman <drafterman  2008-04-23 08:30:07 
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Tokay Pino Gris <tokay  2008-04-23 19:54:55 
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Dubh Ghall <puck@[EMAI  2008-04-23 19:02:02 
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"Mark Earnest"   2008-04-23 17:23:16 
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Dubh Ghall <puck@[EMAI  2008-04-24 09:04:43 
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Kelsey Bjarnason <kbja  2008-04-24 10:08:03 
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Kelsey Bjarnason <kbja  2008-04-24 10:08:04 
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"Mark Earnest"   2008-04-24 18:05:33 
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Dubh Ghall <puck@[EMAI  2008-04-24 23:45:11 
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"Mark Earnest"   2008-04-24 20:18:21 
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"Art" <art@[  2008-04-24 18:53:06 
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"Mark Earnest"   2008-04-24 22:12:34 
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Dubh Ghall <puck@[EMAI  2008-04-25 10:26:50 
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Kelsey Bjarnason <kbja  2008-04-24 10:08:02 
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Kelsey Bjarnason <kbja  2008-04-28 16:00:15 
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"David H. Ellison&qu  2008-04-29 16:36:06 

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