On Sat, 3 May 2008 11:08:09 +1000, "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>"Government ****ll #2" <gov.****ll@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> On Fri, 2 May 2008 19:31:42 +1000, "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> wrote:
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>>>"Government ****ll #2" <gov.****ll@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>> On Fri, 2 May 2008 18:35:05 +1000, "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>> wrote:
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>>>>>"Government ****ll #2" <gov.****ll@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>> On Fri, 2 May 2008 14:16:20 +1000, "Seon Ferguson"
<seongf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>> wrote:
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>>>>>>>If you believe the lies the Zionists/necons are making up about
Iran
>>>>>>>then
>>>>>>
>>>>>> than
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>your dumber than me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And that would take *some* doing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>Yeah thats saying a lot.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>I fell for the WMD's lie but now I'm older and wiser
>>>>>>>and know how the propaganda is used.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, if I understand your post, you don't believe Iran could have
>>>>>> nuclear
>>>>>> bomb
>>>>>> technology by 2008? Why do believe that? Based on what evidence?
What
>>>>>> convinces
>>>>>> you what is propaganda and what isn't?
>>>>>>
>>>>>Well where's the evidence it wants to develop Nuke's? all we have is
>>>>>Israel
>>>>>saying Iran will develop a nuke (and it has its own agenda for saying
>>>>>that)
>>>>>and the neocon's. I studied history, I know how propaganda was used.
>>>>>Come on these assholes lied to you about WMD's, are you really so
naive
>>>>>that
>>>>>your going to believe them about Iran?
>>>>
>>>> I never said anything about my beliefs, one way or another. What I
did
>>>> was
>>>> ask
>>>> you why you believe that and on what *evidence* you base that belief.
So
>>>> far you
>>>> have provided none.
>>>>
>>>Well I guess I base my "beliefs" on two things. The lack of evidence
and
>>>the
>>
>> I see... so the evidence upon which you believe that it would
impossible
>> for
>> Iran to build a nuclear weapon is a lack of evidence that they have
built
>> a
>> nuclear weapon. Right...
>>
>Well you and I both reject Religion based on the lack of evidence. Why
cant
>we do it with other things?
Well... if you believe this old article, some in high places in Iran have
the
desire to use nuclear weapons:
http://www.iran-press-service.com/articles_2001/dec_2001/rafsanjani_nuke_threats_141201.htm
"RAFSANJANI SAYS MUSLIMS SHOULD USE NUCLEAR WEAPON AGAINST ISRAEL
TEHRAN 14 Dec. (IPS) One of Iran’s most influential ruling cleric called
Friday
on the Muslim states to use nuclear weapon against Israel, assuring them
that
while such an attack would annihilate Israel, it would cost them "damages
only".
"If a day comes when the world of Islam is duly equipped with the arms
Israel
has in possession, the strategy of colonialism would face a stalemate
because
application of an atomic bomb would not leave any thing in Israel but the
same
thing would just produce damages in the Muslim world", Ayatollah Ali Akbar
Hashemi-Rafsanjani told the crowd at the traditional Friday prayers in
Tehran."
And they are developing the means to build one:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4900260.stm
"Iran declares key nuclear advance
Iran's president says his nation has successfully produced the enriched
uranium
needed to make nuclear fuel."
I don't need any nefarious "neocons" to tell me that there is a real
*chance*
that this desire and developing ability are not good things. I can work
these
things out for myself.
>>>fact that they have lied to me before. its like when a girl lies to me.
>>>Its
>>>going to be very hard for me to get over it and learn to trust her
again.
>>>Its the same with the neocons.
>>
>> The neocons being anyone who says Iran wants to build a nuclear weapon?
>>
>No as I said again and again the neocon's are a political thought process
>based on the philosophy of Irving Kristol who calls himself a neocon.
Many
>self proscribed neocon's are in the Bush administration and there own
>doc***ents say they want to invade Iraq (done), Iran, Serya and North
Korea.
>So its pretty sufficant to say invading Iran only would only serve the
>purpose of the neocons and of course Israel.
FFS it's their and Syria.
****ll #2
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