"Government ****ll #2" <gov.****ll@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Sat, 3 May 2008 11:08:09 +1000, "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Government ****ll #2" <gov.****ll@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> On Fri, 2 May 2008 19:31:42 +1000, "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Government ****ll #2" <gov.****ll@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>> On Fri, 2 May 2008 18:35:05 +1000, "Seon Ferguson"
<seongf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Government ****ll #2" <gov.****ll@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>> On Fri, 2 May 2008 14:16:20 +1000, "Seon Ferguson"
>>>>>>> <seongf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If you believe the lies the Zionists/necons are making up about
Iran
>>>>>>>>then
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>your dumber than me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And that would take *some* doing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>Yeah thats saying a lot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I fell for the WMD's lie but now I'm older and wiser
>>>>>>>>and know how the propaganda is used.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, if I understand your post, you don't believe Iran could have
>>>>>>> nuclear
>>>>>>> bomb
>>>>>>> technology by 2008? Why do believe that? Based on what evidence?
>>>>>>> What
>>>>>>> convinces
>>>>>>> you what is propaganda and what isn't?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>Well where's the evidence it wants to develop Nuke's? all we have is
>>>>>>Israel
>>>>>>saying Iran will develop a nuke (and it has its own agenda for
saying
>>>>>>that)
>>>>>>and the neocon's. I studied history, I know how propaganda was used.
>>>>>>Come on these assholes lied to you about WMD's, are you really so
>>>>>>naive
>>>>>>that
>>>>>>your going to believe them about Iran?
>>>>>
>>>>> I never said anything about my beliefs, one way or another. What I
did
>>>>> was
>>>>> ask
>>>>> you why you believe that and on what *evidence* you base that
belief.
>>>>> So
>>>>> far you
>>>>> have provided none.
>>>>>
>>>>Well I guess I base my "beliefs" on two things. The lack of evidence
and
>>>>the
>>>
>>> I see... so the evidence upon which you believe that it would
impossible
>>> for
>>> Iran to build a nuclear weapon is a lack of evidence that they have
>>> built
>>> a
>>> nuclear weapon. Right...
>>>
>>Well you and I both reject Religion based on the lack of evidence. Why
>>cant
>>we do it with other things?
>
> Well... if you believe this old article, some in high places in Iran
have
> the
> desire to use nuclear weapons:
>
>
http://www.iran-press-service.com/articles_2001/dec_2001/rafsanjani_nuke_threats_141201.htm
>
> "RAFSANJANI SAYS MUSLIMS SHOULD USE NUCLEAR WEAPON AGAINST ISRAEL
>
> TEHRAN 14 Dec. (IPS) One of Iran's most influential ruling cleric called
> Friday
> on the Muslim states to use nuclear weapon against Israel, assuring them
> that
> while such an attack would annihilate Israel, it would cost them
"damages
> only".
>
> "If a day comes when the world of Islam is duly equipped with the arms
> Israel
> has in possession, the strategy of colonialism would face a stalemate
> because
> application of an atomic bomb would not leave any thing in Israel but
the
> same
> thing would just produce damages in the Muslim world", Ayatollah Ali
Akbar
> Hashemi-Rafsanjani told the crowd at the traditional Friday prayers in
> Tehran."
>
>
> And they are developing the means to build one:
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4900260.stm
>
> "Iran declares key nuclear advance
>
> Iran's president says his nation has successfully produced the enriched
> uranium
> needed to make nuclear fuel."
>
>
> I don't need any nefarious "neocons" to tell me that there is a real
> *chance*
> that this desire and developing ability are not good things. I can work
> these
> things out for myself.
>
>
>>>>fact that they have lied to me before. its like when a girl lies to
me.
>>>>Its
>>>>going to be very hard for me to get over it and learn to trust her
>>>>again.
>>>>Its the same with the neocons.
>>>
>>> The neocons being anyone who says Iran wants to build a nuclear
weapon?
>>>
>>No as I said again and again the neocon's are a political thought
process
>>based on the philosophy of Irving Kristol who calls himself a neocon.
Many
>>self proscribed neocon's are in the Bush administration and there own
>>doc***ents say they want to invade Iraq (done), Iran, Serya and North
>>Korea.
>>So its pretty sufficant to say invading Iran only would only serve the
>>purpose of the neocons and of course Israel.
>
> FFS it's their and Syria.
>
typical.
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