On Sat, 3 May 2008 19:59:18 +1000, "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>"Government ****ll #2" <gov.****ll@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> On Sat, 3 May 2008 11:08:09 +1000, "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> wrote:
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>>>"Government ****ll #2" <gov.****ll@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>> On Fri, 2 May 2008 19:31:42 +1000, "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>> wrote:
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>>>>>"Government ****ll #2" <gov.****ll@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>> On Fri, 2 May 2008 18:35:05 +1000, "Seon Ferguson"
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>>>>>> wrote:
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>>>>>>>"Government ****ll #2" <gov.****ll@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>>> On Fri, 2 May 2008 14:16:20 +1000, "Seon Ferguson"
>>>>>>>> <seongf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>If you believe the lies the Zionists/necons are making up about
Iran
>>>>>>>>>then
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>your dumber than me.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And that would take *some* doing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Yeah thats saying a lot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I fell for the WMD's lie but now I'm older and wiser
>>>>>>>>>and know how the propaganda is used.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So, if I understand your post, you don't believe Iran could have
>>>>>>>> nuclear
>>>>>>>> bomb
>>>>>>>> technology by 2008? Why do believe that? Based on what evidence?
>>>>>>>> What
>>>>>>>> convinces
>>>>>>>> you what is propaganda and what isn't?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Well where's the evidence it wants to develop Nuke's? all we have
is
>>>>>>>Israel
>>>>>>>saying Iran will develop a nuke (and it has its own agenda for
saying
>>>>>>>that)
>>>>>>>and the neocon's. I studied history, I know how propaganda was
used.
>>>>>>>Come on these assholes lied to you about WMD's, are you really so
>>>>>>>naive
>>>>>>>that
>>>>>>>your going to believe them about Iran?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I never said anything about my beliefs, one way or another. What I
did
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> ask
>>>>>> you why you believe that and on what *evidence* you base that
belief.
>>>>>> So
>>>>>> far you
>>>>>> have provided none.
>>>>>>
>>>>>Well I guess I base my "beliefs" on two things. The lack of evidence
and
>>>>>the
>>>>
>>>> I see... so the evidence upon which you believe that it would
impossible
>>>> for
>>>> Iran to build a nuclear weapon is a lack of evidence that they have
>>>> built
>>>> a
>>>> nuclear weapon. Right...
>>>>
>>>Well you and I both reject Religion based on the lack of evidence. Why
>>>cant
>>>we do it with other things?
>>
>> Well... if you believe this old article, some in high places in Iran
have
>> the
>> desire to use nuclear weapons:
>>
>>
http://www.iran-press-service.com/articles_2001/dec_2001/rafsanjani_nuke_threats_141201.htm
>>
>> "RAFSANJANI SAYS MUSLIMS SHOULD USE NUCLEAR WEAPON AGAINST ISRAEL
>>
>> TEHRAN 14 Dec. (IPS) One of Iran's most influential ruling cleric
called
>> Friday
>> on the Muslim states to use nuclear weapon against Israel, assuring
them
>> that
>> while such an attack would annihilate Israel, it would cost them
"damages
>> only".
>>
>> "If a day comes when the world of Islam is duly equipped with the arms
>> Israel
>> has in possession, the strategy of colonialism would face a stalemate
>> because
>> application of an atomic bomb would not leave any thing in Israel but
the
>> same
>> thing would just produce damages in the Muslim world", Ayatollah Ali
Akbar
>> Hashemi-Rafsanjani told the crowd at the traditional Friday prayers in
>> Tehran."
>>
>>
>> And they are developing the means to build one:
>>
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4900260.stm
>>
>> "Iran declares key nuclear advance
>>
>> Iran's president says his nation has successfully produced the enriched
>> uranium
>> needed to make nuclear fuel."
>>
>>
>> I don't need any nefarious "neocons" to tell me that there is a real
>> *chance*
>> that this desire and developing ability are not good things. I can work
>> these
>> things out for myself.
>>
>>
>>>>>fact that they have lied to me before. its like when a girl lies to
me.
>>>>>Its
>>>>>going to be very hard for me to get over it and learn to trust her
>>>>>again.
>>>>>Its the same with the neocons.
>>>>
>>>> The neocons being anyone who says Iran wants to build a nuclear
weapon?
>>>>
>>>No as I said again and again the neocon's are a political thought
process
>>>based on the philosophy of Irving Kristol who calls himself a neocon.
Many
>>>self proscribed neocon's are in the Bush administration and there own
>>>doc***ents say they want to invade Iraq (done), Iran, Serya and North
>>>Korea.
>>>So its pretty sufficant to say invading Iran only would only serve the
>>>purpose of the neocons and of course Israel.
>>
>> FFS it's their and Syria.
>>
>typical.
Did you even read the rest of my response?
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