On Thu, 8 May 2008 21:38:27 +1000, "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> So what we live then we die and thats it?
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>> Is your life so worthless, so futile, that you cannot enjoy it?
>> In the end, all we are is a vessel for our DNA. How lucky we
>> are to have been a part of the ride!
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>Hey I enjoy my time here. I'm not sure why I'm here so I try to make the
>most of it.
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>>> nothing more than this physical
>>> plane and everyone who saw Ghosts, aliens, had past life memories,
NDE's
>>> and
>>> OBE's are just what all having delusions?
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>> Pretty much that wraps it up.
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>> The immortality you seek is in your children.
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>Well I believe our conscious is immortal. Modern X ray's cant find it so
it
>must be beyond our body.
Ever x-rayed your computer? When you do, let me know when you get a
picture of the software that runs in it. Then see if the x-rays are
different if the machine is turned on, and off.
>If its beyond our body then chances are it will
>continue to exist beyond death. I don't seek immortality. I believe we
all
>have immortal consciousness or souls if you will.
Well, if that's the case then IMO we will become quite different from
what we are.
>But as I told the fascist who plonked me one of the great things about
life
>is that people will disagree on so many things. If we all believed in the
>same thing life wouldn't be as exciting.
Yes, well... But I imagine few people would be interested in the
"excitement" of having their family splattered all over the wall.
>Oh and saying they are all delusions without looking at the facts for
every
>case is a bit narrow minded but maybe thats just me.
Still, I suppose there is hope: if there is a possibility for
immortality IMO it's to do with Leibniz's Identity of Indiscernibles.
Mind you that said there is a downside.
As Charles Stross notes in his short story "A colder war".
<http://www.infinityplus.co.uk/stories/colderwar.htm>
The key passage is:
"-- Evitable,'' echoes the distant horizon. Something dark and angular
skims across the stars, like an echo of extinct pterosaurs. Turbofans
whirring within its belly, the F117 hunts on: patrolling to keep at
bay the ancient evil, unaware that the battle is already lost. "Your
family could still be alive, you know.''
He looks up. "They could?'' Andrea? Jason? "Alive?''
"The void laughs again, unfriendly: "There is life eternal within the
eater of souls. Nobody is ever forgotten or allowed to rest in peace.
They populate the simulation spaces of its mind, exploring all the
possible alternative endings to their life. There is a fate worse than
death, you know.''
Roger looks at his cigarette disbelievingly: throws it far out into
the night sky above the plain. He watches it fall until its ember is
no longer visible. Then he gets up. For a long moment he stands poised
on the edge of the cliff nerving himself, and thinking. Then he takes
a step back, turns, and slowly makes his way back up the trail towards
the redoubt on the plateau. If his analysis of the situation is wrong,
at least he is still alive. And if he is right, dying would be no
escape.
He wonders why hell is so cold at this time of year.
Available on <www.audiable.co.uk>.
Scary!
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