"Therion Ware" <autodelete@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Thu, 8 May 2008 21:38:27 +1000, "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> wrote:
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>>"HVAC" <MR.HVAC@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message news:48225d4c
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>>>>>
>>>> So what we live then we die and thats it?
>>>
>>> Is your life so worthless, so futile, that you cannot enjoy it?
>>> In the end, all we are is a vessel for our DNA. How lucky we
>>> are to have been a part of the ride!
>>>
>>Hey I enjoy my time here. I'm not sure why I'm here so I try to make the
>>most of it.
>>
>>>> nothing more than this physical
>>>> plane and everyone who saw Ghosts, aliens, had past life memories,
>>>> NDE's
>>>> and
>>>> OBE's are just what all having delusions?
>>>
>>> Pretty much that wraps it up.
>>>
>>> The immortality you seek is in your children.
>>
>>Well I believe our conscious is immortal. Modern X ray's cant find it so
>>it
>>must be beyond our body.
>
> Ever x-rayed your computer? When you do, let me know when you get a
> picture of the software that runs in it. Then see if the x-rays are
> different if the machine is turned on, and off.
>
That's different, were not computers. So where is consciousness, why cant
we
see it?
>>If its beyond our body then chances are it will
>>continue to exist beyond death. I don't seek immortality. I believe we
all
>>have immortal consciousness or souls if you will.
>
> Well, if that's the case then IMO we will become quite different from
> what we are.
>
Maybe we will be. We were different before after all.
>>But as I told the fascist who plonked me one of the great things about
>>life
>>is that people will disagree on so many things. If we all believed in
the
>>same thing life wouldn't be as exciting.
>
> Yes, well... But I imagine few people would be interested in the
> "excitement" of having their family splattered all over the wall.
>
>>Oh and saying they are all delusions without looking at the facts for
>>every
>>case is a bit narrow minded but maybe thats just me.
>
> Still, I suppose there is hope: if there is a possibility for
> immortality IMO it's to do with Leibniz's Identity of Indiscernibles.
> Mind you that said there is a downside.
>
> As Charles Stross notes in his short story "A colder war".
>
> <http://www.infinityplus.co.uk/stories/colderwar.htm>
>
> The key passage is:
>
> "-- Evitable,'' echoes the distant horizon. Something dark and angular
> skims across the stars, like an echo of extinct pterosaurs. Turbofans
> whirring within its belly, the F117 hunts on: patrolling to keep at
> bay the ancient evil, unaware that the battle is already lost. "Your
> family could still be alive, you know.''
>
> He looks up. "They could?'' Andrea? Jason? "Alive?''
>
> "The void laughs again, unfriendly: "There is life eternal within the
> eater of souls. Nobody is ever forgotten or allowed to rest in peace.
> They populate the simulation spaces of its mind, exploring all the
> possible alternative endings to their life. There is a fate worse than
> death, you know.''
>
> Roger looks at his cigarette disbelievingly: throws it far out into
> the night sky above the plain. He watches it fall until its ember is
> no longer visible. Then he gets up. For a long moment he stands poised
> on the edge of the cliff nerving himself, and thinking. Then he takes
> a step back, turns, and slowly makes his way back up the trail towards
> the redoubt on the plateau. If his analysis of the situation is wrong,
> at least he is still alive. And if he is right, dying would be no
> escape.
>
> He wonders why hell is so cold at this time of year.
>
>
> Available on <www.audiable.co.uk>.
>
> Scary!
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