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by "John Winston" <johnfw@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 9, 2008 at 07:10 AM

Subject:  Something About Babaji.          May 8, 2008.

  It has been my pleasure to study about Babaji for
a long time.  I first read about him in the book
called "Autobiography Of A Yogi" written by
Paramahansa Yogananda.  I had a friend who went through
the training school that was establish by Paramahansa
Yogananda down in the southern part of Calif.  Finally
I was sent information about the physcical
manifestation of Babaji over in the East.  He would
stay in the physical body for a few years and then pass
on to the etheric and then years later he would tell
his friends that he would be manifesting in the form of
a light for a while and last of all he would appear in
the physcical form again.

  Here is some information about him but be sure and
and not get thrown by them suggesting that you wor****p
Babaji.  It is my opinion that if you did this to him
he would suggest that you stand up and treat him like
any other person because you and he are alike.

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  About Yantra
  Sri Babaji Siddha Mandala & Karya Siddhi
  Yantra is being issued through the "Sri Mahavatar
Babaji Sannidhan Seva Trust" with the D-vine guidance
of Mahavatar Babaji to Dr. N Rajgopal. It is purely for
the benefit of thousands of people across the globe.
  The Yantra is not a remedy, but a rare relic
conceived through a di-ine revelation. It would
day-by-day bestow auspicious happenings in the family
such as a Happy home, Comfortable Life, Confidence &
Happiness, Courage against any odds, Family progress at
all times, Favors from P-litics & G-vernment, Favors
from Superiors, Fulfillment of Desires, H-aling from
Disease, Knowledge & Wisdom, Power & Authority,
Prosperity, Protection from all Troubles, Protection
from Dangers to Self & Family, Protection from E-il
Eyes, Sound Finances for Self & Dependants, Sound
Health & Wealth, Success in all Activities, Success in
Profession & Business.
  Time and space have no conceivable beginning or end.
It is space, which regulates the idea of time. Through
space envelopes the whole universe. , the human
experiences are influenced and confined to the Zodiacal
path of planets demarcated by the stars or
constellations. Hence as guided by Sadguru Mahavatar
Sri Babaji, this Yantra is designed and encompassed
with the Twelve Ri****s, the Sun & all the planets;
Stars and their 108 Padas; New Moon, Ful Moon; Day Day
and Night. Sadguru Mahavatar Babaji is seated at the
center, amidst 18 Siddhas. Babaji's birth details are
given in the inner circle of the Sun. The other side of
the Yantra has several r-ligious symbols and numbers,
which would produce several auspicious results for the
possessor.

             A little about Babaji
  Heard about the immortal master of the Himalayan?
  Aged over several thousand years but ever youthful,
he is a great server of humanity, has every power,
travels by mere thought, and manifests anything needed
from the air and still stays youthfully in his physical
body, guiding the matured, aged Saadhus, Sanyasins, and
Seers seated around him.
  The Himalayan Master SadGuru Mahavatar Sri Babaji's
s-iritual state is beyond human comprehension. The
dwarfed vision of men cannot pierce to his
trascendental star. One would attempt in vain even to
picture the Avatar's attainment. It is incoceivable.
However, if one can meditate upon the adorable
effulgence of the glowing immortal Great M-ster, Babaji
will illumine his intellect and whole life. By just
repeating Babaji's name with reverence, one receives
the sp-ritual blessings of Divibe G-ru!
  Just try to hear "the truth" by approaching a
spi-itual ma-ter. Inquire from him submissively and
render service unto him. The self-realized s-ul can
impart knowledge unto you because he has seen "the
truth"

             Babaji's Birth Details
  Babaji was born in the year of 562 B.C in Parangi
Pettai "****to Nova", now a small village near Cuddalore
in Tamil Nadu, India. This was revealed to Dr. N
Rajgopal by Babaji.
  Babaji was named "Nagaraj" by his devout parents,
which means king of serpents. Nagaraj's father was a
temple priest at the local ****va temple.

              About Dr. N Rajgopal
  Since over two decades, Mahavatar Babaji has been
playing a major role in the life of Dr. N Rajgopal.
  Mahavatar Bajaji has guided him to make this Yantra.
Babaji has also gifted Dr. N Rajgopal with a unique
astrological technique called Mindscope.
More information about Dr. N Rajgopal can be found on
his website
http://www.sacredcatalog.com/iambridge/redirect/
http://www.babajisannidhan.com

                      W-r****p
  Place the Yantra in the Pooja Room/ Wo-****p place.
Offer flowers, lit lamp, incense sticks etc. Jack
fruit is very favourite fruit of Babaji. You may offer
this, among other items, as Prasadam, if you so desire.
  Daily do recite SADGURU BABAJI NAMAH:
11/21/108 or as many times as possible by you. Every
year, Babaji's birthday falls on Karthika month on the
day when Pushya Star is in operation.
  You can celebrate and wor-hip him on this day and
offer donations/charity. You can buy and donate the
Yantra to your friends & relatives, their prosperity
will bring more prosperity to you

                  Satsang with Babaji
  On every Tuesday evening between; 8:15 and 9:15PM
IST, you can be at your own place and meditate upon
Sadguru Mahavatar Sri Babaji, by just closing your
eyes. It is at this time Dr. N Rajgopal will also be in
the meditative state and at times he will be in
communion with Babaji. You can also send your
experience and valuable feedback or worsh-pping Sri
Babaji Siddha Mandala & Karya Siddhi Yantra by clicking
http://www.sacredcatalog.com

John Winston.  johnfw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Milk Colored Rain In Reno.        May 6. 2008.

  Here is a re****t on some milk colored rain that
fell in Reno, NV.

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Subject: Raining milk in Reno? What is this stuff?

  Alrighty!!!  All you super (souper) sleuths out
there.  We have a real mystery on our hands in Reno,
NV.

  This is from a WGEN reader in the Reno area -  this
is something new to me so I am tossing it out to the
WGEN list and beyond.  If anyone has any 'realistic'
thoughts on what this might be - let me know.
  Area 51?  Art Bell? or this government doing more
experiments on targeted areas?

Jackie Juntti
WGEN  idzrus@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 net
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  Jackie,

  Another weird thing .. It rained last night, leaving
a milky white residue on everything.  No coverage in
media.  I did a web search and the only thing I found
was a reference to it happening in New Mexico in
January.  I couldn't get in their archives to get the
whole article or I'd give you the link.  Have you heard
from others having this happen?

Randi

  Wednesday, January 16, 2008
  Rainy Riddle Milky-White Showers Shake Up Silver City
Area
  By Rene Romo
  Albuquerque Journal Southern Bureau

  LAS CRUCES

  You've heard of the Milky Way. Now there's the milky
rain.

  Scientists and others are trying to get to the bottom
of a meteorological mystery in southwestern New Mexico:
What caused the milky-white rain that fell last week
over a large swath of Grant County, from Silver City to
the Gila Cliff Dwellings?

  "I don't know what it was, but it left a milky, white
residue on all the vehicles in town," said Lt. Eddie
Ortiz, 48, of the Grant County Sheriff's Department,
talking about the unusual Jan. 7 rainstorm.

  "It was like someone spilled milk on your wind****eld
and it dried up," Ortiz said. "It was very weird, very
strange. I've lived here all my life, and I've never
seen anything like it."

  The storm left the few carwashes in Silver City busy
for days as residents tried to remove the white residue
the storm left behind.

  Efforts to analyze the mysterious rain began quickly.
Among those collecting samples were Gila resident
Russel Dobkins, the Gila Resources Information Project,
or GRIP, a Silver City-based environmental group and
the state Environment Department.
  Rain samples were sent last week to laboratories at
the New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology in
Socorro and the University of Texas at El Paso. A New
Mexico State University professor was also enlisted to
examine weather patterns the day the white rain fell.

  "This was an unusual event, and we are trying to
determine what caused it," said Environment Department
spokeswoman Marissa Stone.

  Based on his own research, Dobkins, a biochemistry
student at Western New Mexico University, said the
white rain fell over a 200-square-mile area from the
Arizona border to the Mimbres Valley.

  The rain apparently caused no permanent damage to
cars or other property, according to the sheriff's
department, and there have been no confirmed re****ts of
health problems resulting from the event.

  But Allyson Siwik, a GRIP executive director, said
local residents want to know what turned the rain a
milky white in order to put any concerns to rest.

  "There's definitely a buzz around town," Siwik said.
"We hope to figure out what it is and turn the
speculation into something based on science."

  Paul Maynes, manager at the Silver City Auto Spa,
said he had heard speculation that dust from a
volcanic eruption in South America mixed with rain to
create the white appearance.

  But Richard Aster, a seismologist and geophysicist at
New Mexico Tech, shot that theory down Tuesday.

  "There is absolutely no credence to that," Aster
said. "There haven't been any large global events that
would have sent anything our way."

  Thomas Gill, an associate professor of geological
sciences at UTEP, who is investigating the white rain
event, said he suspects that a dust storm or storms
that blew northeast into Grant County from the state's
Bootheel and southeastern Arizona were a "major
contributor to this phenomenon."

  Gill said that chemical analyses could link the white
rain's content to dusty playas -- large dry lake beds
in the Bootheel area.

  If that is the explanation, Gill said, it does not
diminish how unusual it was for rain to have formed
milky puddles in Silver City and the surrounding areas.

  "I haven't really heard of milky rain before," Gill
said. "I've heard of dusty rain or muddy rain, but it's
usually not a milky color."
------------------------------------------------

  Thursday, January 24, 2008
  Silver City's White Rain? Dust, Maybe
  By Rene Romo
  Albuquerque Journal; Journal Southern Bureau

  LAS CRUCES A N-SA photograph taken from space might
be a key to unlocking the meteorological mystery of
Silver City's milky rain.

  The image taken by a NA-A satellite on Jan. 7 -- the
same day the mysterious rain doused much of Grant
County -- shows a whitish plume of material flowing
under the cloud layer over a large dry lake bed south
of Willcox, Ariz., according to Joel Gilbert of the
University of Texas at El Paso.

  The lakebed, known as the Willcox playa, covers 50 to
60 square miles and is about 120 miles southwest of
Silver City. A high-wind advisory was in effect in the
Willcox area on Jan. 7, and dust was blowing across the
area, according to the Arizona Department of Public
Safety.
  "It looks like there's a plume of dust coming off the
Willcox playa, and the Willcox playa has been a
significant source of dust in the past," said Gilbert,
an environmental science coordinator who is part of a
group of scientists studying the milky rain.

  "The plume looks like it was blowing in the right
direction to Silver City.
  It's possible the dust seeded the rain clouds and
caused the precipitation in the first place."

  Finding the cause of the white rainfall appears weeks
away, but the NA=A image "is the best evidence we have
so far," said Gilbert.

  Cars and homes across Grant County were drenched with
the milky white rain that locals said they had never
seen before.

  Concerns about what the strange rain contained
prompted some Silver City area residents to launch an
investigation that has drawn in researchers from the
New Mexico Tech, New Mexico State University, UTEP and
the state Environment Department.

  Gilbert said his analysis of six rain samples
gathered from Silver City showed high levels of
calcium, which is "not too unusual" given the geology
of the Southwest.

  Additional tests still must still be conducted.
Gilbert said he and other researchers are awaiting the
arrival of samples of residue left behind by the milky
rain for testing.

  New Mexico Environment Department spokeswoman
Marissa Stone said that it will be perhaps two weeks
before material collected in air quality monitoring
devices is analyzed.

  In addition, Gilbert said, getting soil samples from
the Willcox playa will be an im****tant part of the
effort to establish a link between the lakebed and the
rain that fell on Silver City.

  The investigation, Gilbert noted, could be
compromised by one other factor -- the quality of the
rain samples collected from Silver City.

  Some of the rain samples were collected from rooftop
run-off, others from rain gauges. Because the rainfall
probably mixed with other material while it was
collected, the samples might not accurately reflect
what fell from the sky that day.

  "The data we are getting is still going to be
questionable," Gilbert said.

  (JW  As one of my friends commented on this
situation, "It looks like one of the things that
Charles Fort would have investigated, if he was still
alive.")

John Winston.  johnfw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Do We Have A Base In Antarctica?  May 4, 2008.

  Here are some people who believe in a base in
Antarctica.

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         THE AMERICAN BASE IN ANTARCTICA.
  The s-cret American Antarctic Base is an integral
part of America's network and linked via satellite to
Pine Gap and other bases in Australia, Christchurch in
New Zealand, Punta Arenas in Southern Chile and the
long standing C.-.A./N-A base in Cape Town, South
Africa according the the F-rtress Australia writer.
  Large trenches were mined in which buildings were
placed in neat rows, then covered with now deep ice and
snow, due to the natural ice build up. Due to the
large airspaces in the trenches, now tunnels, the
ambient temperature of the air was raised to above
freezing level without effecting the surrounding ice.
This combined with the individual heated buildings make
it a comfortable place to live.
  The main purpose of the base appears to be top s-cret
experimentation in the area of electromagnetism and the
earth's magnetic field. An Australian scientist with
the Southern Lights research team at the main
Australian Antarctic Base, situated at Mawson told the
author about American activities there. He said that
when they conducted their regular experiments, big
changes occurred in the Aurora and communications were
effected. He believed they were driving electromagnetic
energy into the earth's magnetic field which was
causing the disruption in the Aurora and probably
related to the H-ARP experiments in Alaska as the
effects on the Northern Lights were similar.
  HAS HUBBLE SEEN AN ALIEN INVASION OF HUGE MAGNITUDE?
  According to the Fo-tress Australia article the
Tidbinbilla tracking station, jointly established
between UK, U-A and Australia close to Canberra is the
most im****tant in Australia. It is a vital control
center for the Hubble orbital telescope. The first
images received by Tidbinbilla found that virtually
every star has a solar system. The truth angered the
American control-room staff that the Australians and
British now knew. Hubble now operates satisfactorily
and photographs are airbrushed before release. The
Parks Radio telescopes according to a g-vernment source
first detected intelligent signals from outer space
more than twenty five years ago. It has been involved
with the SETI program. Parks hit rate was alarmingly
high so the plug had to be pulled in 1995 before too
much leaked out. Intelligent radio and television
signals were identified in several parts of the galaxy
and emanating from areas up to three thousand light
years away from the earth. It's classified above top
se-ret that technical civilizations equal or superior
to our own were very active more than three thousand
years ago.
  They captured enhanced television pictures showing
the daily life of a number of alien civilizations of
ages past and still do. NS- has close co-operation with
Parks and has liaison staff posted there on a full time
basis, as an outpost of the -SA's vital intelligence
gathering network. Nothing is sure, only that obvious
and massive preparations are being made to protect and
secure the Australian continent from a cataclysmic
event. No doubt time will tell. The For-ress Australia
author would like to mention that as far as possible
the information contained in this re****t was checked
and where possible attempts were made to verify it.
However it has to be borne in mind that some
information may contain some inaccuracies due to the
impossibility of verifying source material.
Never-the-less the author considers the majority of the
information well founded and truthful. It should also
be pointed out that many of the providers of this
information required their identities to be covered in
such a way that they could not be identified. This
involved some minor alterations to the narrative to
produce such cover and has not compromised the
information described in any way. Rumours have
persisted in Australia that all the initial SDI
experiments and developments were successful and a
large part of the system is fully operated and
controlled by America's sec-et Australian and
Antarctic bases.
        TRACKING DEEP SPACE ACTIVITIES?
  It has been said that the real secr-t is in Canberra,
not Alice Springs at the Tidbinbilla tracking station,
outside Canberra. Which, besides controlling and
tracking m-litary satellites is also involved in deep
space vehicle control. CDSCC is responsible for the
tracking of spacecraft that partake in interplanetary
missions. The Complex is a -ASA facility operated under
a -SA-Australian Gov-rnment agreement which involves
JPL, CSIRO Australia and British Aerospace Australia.
Re****ts coming in from Tidbinbilla, by someone who
worked there, were on weather control, UFOs, k-ller
satellites and much more. There is a huge high-tech
James Bond type operation hub in Canberra. There is a
rumored system called the Deakin Exchange which is the
grown up big brother of Echelon, and not under the NRO.
  PINE GAP FOR THE E-ITE AFTER THE STOCK MARKET CRASH.
  Dr. G-lle writes that several times, locals have seen
w-ite disks about 30' in diameter being unloaded from
large US cargo planes at the air****ts serving Pine Gap
with the US-F emblem on them. It seems likely that
disks are assembled and based at Pine Gap because many
disks seen at night would confirm this. Much furniture
has been delivered by plane from the Uni-ed States. The
locals also say that an enormous amount of food is
stocked in warehouses of what could well be a true
multi-leveled underground city. Dr. Gil-e writes that
shares put on the market at the same time will cause a
stock market crash of such magnitude that all the
national economies of the West will collapse at the
same time. Cash will worthless and the risks of a
global confrontation (planned!) will be high.
  The purpose of Pine Gap and other underground bases
purpose will become obvious. If a global confrontation
is going to break out, those bases will serve as a
place of safety for the p-liticians and their staff, as
well as the international financiers, their family and
friends. Plastic cards will be necessary, there will be
abolishment of all owner****p rights and and the setting
up of a W-rld Go-ernment that will 'ensure peace'. The
underground bases will make possible the disappearance
of those who do not conform. There are already many
c-ncentration camps. Our new "Masters' will end up
saying they have the aliens sup****t, and that we are on
the eve of a golden age and it will be the worst
dictator****p ever known to mankind according to Dr.
Gill-.
  William C-oper says all the C-A Directors and
Secretaries of State were all members of the C-uncil on
Foreign Relations and also the M- 12, which includes
K-ssinger.
  They rule US. George B-sh, former CI- director was
called upon by the committee to s-uggle the d-ugs in
through his off-shore oil platforms in 1955 as there
are no customs on these. The secre- govern-ent k-ll
America's children for the alien projects with their
agreements with alien nations to rule the world
jointly.
  They can make US currency worthless at any time and
bring everyone under control with their global credit
card.
           WHAT ELSE IS AT PINE GAP?
  Stan Deyo also asks if Pine Gap could be a man-made
city of multiple levels, used to shelter key U.S.
personnel in the event of some disaster. Among some of
the major contractors and suppliers for Pine Gap have
been C-llins Radio, M-Mahon Construction, L.-.V.
aero-space company, a conglomerate of electronics and
aircraft manufacturing subsidiaries and I.-.M. Stan
says it is rumored that there are super IB- computer
systems on a floating platform, 'down the well'
underneath the facility. -BM has mammoth computers
which can recognize both voice and visual patterns.
Their main memory sizes are said to be in excess of
2,000,000,000 bytes. The first 2 antennas for
controlling and communicating with satellites were
constructed in 1966-67. Pine Gap became operational in
1970. In 1974 unauthorized photos and other information
from inside the faculty are re****ted to have been sold
to R-ssia.
  In 1991 Pine Gap is instrumental in tracking Iraqi
SCUD missiles, with satellite imagery tracking the
Iraqi troops.
  By 1996 witnesses saw a triangular craft crash or
land rapidly at an area west of Pine Gap.
  Diane H-rrison of the Australasian Ufologist magazine
wrote a good description of Pine Gap and says there are
now about 18 satellite control antennas, making it one
of the largest satellite control stations in the world
for satellites parked in fixed orbits above the
equator. The most recent satellites are 300 feet
diameter.
  They intercept signals in the VHF, UHF and millimeter
wave frequency bands. Within that frequency there are 4
categories of signals.
  The first category monitors signals transmitted in
the course of advanced w-apons development,
particularly ballistic missiles.
  The first satellites were designed for this and
monitored Ru-sian missile development programs and now
monitors other countries. The newer satellites are now
primarily for the Soviet Union.

       This intelligence is shared.
  THE TECHNOLOGICAL ACHIEVEMENTS OF PINE GAP
  The second category monitors signals from large
radars, including ones associated with anti-ballistic
missile fields. air d-fense radars, radars on ****ps.
Analysis of this tells a lot about the capabilities of
those anti-missile and anti-aircraft systems in the
various air defense fields around the globe.
  Thirdly intercepting the communications of other
satellite systems, i.e. communications which are going
up from ground to communication satellites which are
also based in fixed orbits.

Part 1.

John Winston.  johnfw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Do We Have A Base In Antarctica.  Part 2 of 2.
May 8, 2008.

  This gives more information about Pine Gap.

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  Listening satellites parked close to the
communications satellites. Finally they monitor a wide
range of other microwave emissions on the earth's
surface including: long distance phone calls
transmitted via terrestrial microwave circuits enabling
them to monitor m-litary, p-litical and g-vernment
agencies or private individuals. Diane says that a
satellite can be parked over the interior of a country
and intercept the microwave emissions coming from it.
The satellites are under the control of the C-A, who in
turn answer to the N-O (National Reconnaissance
Office). There are 8 large radomes, that cover the the
antenna arrays which keeps sand etc. away and conceal
the antenna's position from e-emy s-y satellites. There
are a wide range of communication devices: HF radio,
underground cable, telstra telephone and telex, 2
satellites communication terminals to occupy the on
average 1,200 staff.
  The staff have to wear color coded ID to match the
color ribbons running along the walls. US Mi-itary
Airlift Command carry thousands of tapes home for
further study and send parts and supplies twice weekly.
There are direct links from Pine Gap to the US bases in
the Philippines, Guam, Krugerdorp South Africa and the
Amundsen-Scott base at the South Pole.
            THE PINE GAP COMPUTER ROOM
  The computer room is almost 5,600 meters and the
operators use headsets to communicate. Within the
central operations building at Pine Gap people are
keeping the satellite and its antenna focused on the
signals they are intercepting. Then other staff process
the enormous volume of interpreted signals. Then the
signals are analyzed for intelligence data. Up to 1980
Australians were not allowed access to the voice
intercepts, coming into the signal analysis section.
But now they have full access to all areas except the
cryptographic room, officially anyway. Univac computers
encrypt transmissions, including voices and these go to
Redondo Beach in California. About 25 to 30 messages
are sent from Pine Gap each day to US and about half go
to the CI- headquarters in L-ngley Virginia. Though
occasionally data is sent directly to the -RO
Headquarters in the P-ntagon, or to the N-A
headquarters at Fort M-ade Maryland. Diane writes that
there is a group called the Joint R-connaissance
Schedule committee, who meet each morning to decide who
is going to be listened to for the next 24 hours to
focus the antennas on the satellites. e.g. who is doing
a missile test, or if a po-itical crisis occurs
somewhere. Australians are involved in this. In the
90's there has been a need to collect political
intelligence on allies and to also download economic
intelligence from these countries. In a reprint from
Co-spiracy Nation Alan H-ward wrote that Pine Gap has
many, many levels below the basement, like the
Pe-tagon and the W-ite House.
             THE TOP BRASS AT PINE GAP
  The computer room at Pine Gap when it was new was one
of the biggest computer rooms in the world, it has now
tripled in size. There are said to be over 1,000 staff.
A similar station to Pine Gap is located in South
Africa with 1,200 staff. It like Pine Gap is also
linked to another VLF station at the South Pole. Dr.
G-lle writes that Pine Gap has enormous computers
connected to US, Krugersdorp South Africa, Guam,
Canberra, Antarctica US base counterparts, which
collect information from these countries, about
finance, technology, and everything about the average
citizen. The Amundsen-Scott base at the South Pole is
located on a sensitive magnetic spot of our planet, in
that it holds exactly the same assets as Pine Gap, and
that all the information about most of the average
citizens of Western Europe is stored there in memory
banks tens of meters under the icepack. Canberra
computers were connected to all banks, every post
office, all telephones, all police stations and customs
houses, every arrival and departure desk for air or
sea travelers and to the other data centers collecting
data on private citizens in the U-ited States and
Europe. Peter S-wyer, a former high-ranking Australian
civil servant found out that all data about every
citizen of the Western World ends up being stored. All
financial, economic, pol-tical and mil-tary
information. The pr-sident of the Ro-kefeller
Foundation supervised in person the construction of 20
luxury residences in Canberra, which is meant to
accommodate the wo-ld gove-nment-to-be and the 20
luxury residences will be allocated to the different
foreign members of that govern-ent. The Australian
premier, Bob H-wk, was a Rhodes scholar, and as such he
worked toward the setting up of a One Wo-ld Govern-ent.
http://www.angelfire.com/oz/cv/pinegap.html

Part 2 of 2.

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Dena and I invite you to our home on Saturday,
May 31st, at 10:00 AM to circa 3:00 PM.  It is
at 11555 Yankee Hill Rd, Columbia, CA, which
is within Marble Quarry RV Park.

Bring a brown bagger to enjoy during the noonish
break.  I have invited a special speaker, who will
speak either at this meeting, or the next meeting
on Sunday, June 29th.  On the date that she does
not speak, we can watch and discuss a couple of
DVDs.  See you here!

Don't forget that the deadline for an early registration
discount at West Coast Conference is soon, May
12th.  www.dowserswestcoast.org  Check the site to
learn why YOU should be there, and download a
registration form.

Ralph

Subject: Recreation For Space People.      May 3, 2008.

  Here is a person who thinks something is going on
underground.  Winifred sent the following information
to me.

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Subject: R&R For The SPACE FLEET
  R+R For The Space Fleet Posted by: 'david e-alt'
dvdewalt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Thu May 1, 2008 7:54 am (PDT) Bullhead City Az, pop.
of about 33,000 is the only small town I've ever seen
that has a K-mart, a Wal-mart and a Target store all
within a five mile stretch on the same street. Does
that sound a little odd to you, to have so much
shopping capacity in so small a town?  Just across the
river is Laughlin NV, pop. about 7000 which has seven
high rise casinos and only a few miles south on the
Mojave indian reservation is another casino. I just
happened to be camped on the edge of the indian
reservation where I heard semi regular sonic booms
coming from underground.
  I heard them several times a week as did others
camping there. The only thing I can think of that would
make sonic booms like that are the mag-lev trains said
to operate all over this country underground. They run
at supersonic speeds and emit a sonic boom as they pass
through the sound barrier both arriving and leaving.
There are said to be terminals in Page Az, Santa Fe NM
as well as Dulce NM. Many Dulce workers had houses in
Santa Fe and commuted back and forth on these trains,
still do probably. So how can a town of 33,000 justify
8 large high rise casinos and way too much shopping
capacity unless they have a large inflow of tourist
traffic which there is not at least on the surface?
Somebody has to sup****t all that stuff? Stories that it
is a kind of R*R mecca for the space fleet as well as
all the dozens [some would say hundreds] of other r-ces
said to be here watching us during the transition. Most
of these are said to be able to shape****ft well enough
to be able to blend in with us in a crowd. It must get
pretty tiresome orbiting month after month or year
after year even if your ****p is bigger than an ocean
liner. The chance to spend time on the surface would
be highly prized I'm sure. There are also the
underground ra-es living here who can shape****ft and
blend in with us quite easily. There are hundreds of
these ****ps in orbit that have been photographed by us,
but that knowledge is suppressed. Radar operators see
them everyday flying too high and fast to be ours, they
call them fast walkers, this knowledge is suppressed
also.  One of these ****ps came over me one night camped
next to the Mojave indian reservation at Bullhead City.
  It was shaped like half of a Borg cube in that it was
only about half as high as it was wide. It was only a
few hundred feet up and sounded like a jet but it was
going slower than helicopter speed. It was all lit up
with white lights on the corners and edges so I could
easily see the shape. It was maybe 300 ft. wide and
deep and half that high.  It made a big U-turn over
Bullhead City, the lights changing all the time until I
lost it in the distance. If anybody wants to check this
out you can camp at the old rock quarry just NW of
Mojave indian reservation where I heard the booms. I
have camped there for two winters now and heard the
booms each time. Both times my reputation as a UFO
researcher and underground base hunter preceded me such
that I had quite a few people trying to encourage me to
leave. I think they were afraid I would find just what
I did.

  (JW  This all reminds that while I was reading
George Van Tassel's newsletter many years ago, he had
a person in one of his meetings who said he was a
person from space.  He then proceeded to make himself
diappear and reappear.  He also said that there more
space people in the group who chose to not make
themselves know because they had job in the towns and
didn't want to make themselves know to the general
public.
  At a later time, I went to San Jacinto, Calif. abd I
interviewed Kelvin Rowe who wrote the book "A Call At
Dawn".  He said that the space people who took him of
rides in their space ****ps, some of them, work at a
local store.  I didn't ask him what kind of store they
worked in.  His wife told me that she could recognize
these people from space as they drove on the road in
front of her house.
  I didn't asked her how she was able to do this.)

John Winston.  johnfw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Why Things Are Like They Are.     May 5, 2008.

  Here is some information that you might choose to
pass up if you think that everything is just fine.

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  A Tribute to Svali, I-luminati Whistleblower
  ProjectCamelot.org
  Comment: For more information on Il-uminati Mind
Control, see my section, "G-vernment & Mind Control",
Wes Penre,
www.illuminati-news.com
  Baphomet
  Of all the courageous warriors for truth to whom we
pay tribute on these pages, Svali is an exception. Her
name is a pseudonym, and it is not known whether she is
d-ad or in hiding.
  But her testimony is so shocking, and of such
critical im****tance, that in our view it is utterly
clear that we must honor her here.
  Svali is, or was, an American woman born into an
Ill-minati bloodline. When she was twelve years old,
she was taken to the V-tican for a ceremony she was
told would be very im****tant. What she witnessed - an
actual child s-crifice (the child was 3 or 4 years old,
and appeared to be compliant) on an obsidian slab over
a large p-ntagram in a basement catacomb - is told in
her extraordinary interview with Greg S-ymanski.
  Everyone visiting our site must hear this:
  Click here for the MP3
  [PC users, right-click and Save As]
  All Illu-inati children are heavily conditioned to be
obedient, patient, self-controlled, and totally loyal
to the "family". Some are groomed for the m-litary or
p-litics; others are prepared for business - or even
'businesses' such as p-ostitution. Marriages are
arranged, one reason being to strengthen ties between
different bloodlines. All the members of the families
have respectable fronts as "normal" people to the
degree that no-one who is not in the group would ever
suspect the duality of their character and of their
life.
  Meetings often occur at night. In these meetings
children are "trained" using d-ugs, h-pnosis, and
shock-reward conditioning. They can, in Svali's words,
all handle and fire a w-apon with d-adly accuracy by
the age of 8.
  Higher levels of po-itics are heavily Illumi-ati
occupied and controlled, in all western countries. In
the U-ited States, the population is about 1%
Illumina-i or Illuminat- assets. Do the math: that's
about 3 million people. You may even know some of them,
and have never suspected.
  Svali is also an exception in that very few
-lluminati members ever leave. The conditioning is just
too great... and to leave means abandoning spouse,
parents, children, house, money, everything. Very few
people make the break. Svali re****ts that she was only
able to leave after it dawned on her that, because she
was telling l-es to the I-luminati children as an
Il-uminati "trainer" (her role or job in the "family"),
she must have been li-d to herself when she was young.
She converted to C-ristianity ('real' Ch-istianity: she
described various Chr-stian c-urches as heavily
Ill-minati controlled) and this gave her the strength
to leave. She gave one major radio interview, and had a
website (suite101.com) which has now been taken down.
She wrote prolifically for a while, but has not been
heard from since 2006.
  There is a lot of information on her on the internet:
Google 'Svali' and start reading.
  Click here for one of the most im****tant interviews
you will ever hear, mentioned above.
  Click here for the transcript, which was prepared by
our friend David W-lcock, who corresponded with Svali
before she disappeared, and appears briefly on Greg
Sz-manski's interview.
  The simplest summary of the entire Il-uminati agenda
and net of control is probably Henry M-kow's 2002
article here. It is reproduced below.

---------------------------------
  Illu-inati Defector Details Pervasive C-nspiracy
  By Henry Ma-ow Ph.D.
  October 14, 2002
  [reprint]
  If you detect the d-vil's hand in current events, you
may be closer to the truth than you think.
  A woman who was raised in the Ill-minati cult
describes a powerful s-cret organization comprising one
per cent of the U.S. population that has infiltrated
all social institutions and is covertly preparing a
mil-tary takeover. Her revelations cast the "w-r on
terror" and "homeland s-curity" in their true light.
  "Svali" is the pseudonym of the woman, age 45, who
was a mind "programmer" for the cult until 1996. She
was the sixth head trainer in the San D-ego branch and
had 30 trainers re****ting to her. She has risked her
life to warn humanity of the Illum-nati's covert power
and agenda.
  She describes a sadistic S-tanic cult led by the
richest and most powerful people in the world. It is
largely h-mo***ual and pedophile, practises animal
sacrifice and ritual m-rder. It works "hand in glove"
with the C-A and F-eemasonry. It is A-yan supremacist
(German is spoken at the top) but welcomes J-wish
apostates. It controls the world traffic in d-ugs,
guns, ****ography and pr-stitution. It may be the hand
behind po-itical a-sassination, and "t-rrorism",
including Sept. 11, the Maryland sniper and the Bali
b-mb blast.
  It has infiltrated go-ernment on a local, state and
national level; education and financial institutions;
re-igion and the media. Based in Europe, it plans a
"w-rld order" that will make its earlier attempts,
N-zism and C-mmunism, look like picnics. One other
detail: these people are not happy.
  Svali's courageous testimony explains why our
children are no longer taught civic values, why they
are being habituated to ho-o***uality and violence, and
why our "culture" is descending into nihilism and
s-xual depravity. It raises the possibility that George
W. B-sh and his Administration are Il-uminists and much
of the world "e-ite" is engaged in a mind-boggling
criminal co-spiracy.
  In March 2000, Svali began writing a monthly column
for survivors of Illu-inati ritual abuse at
Suite101.com. In December 2000, H.J. S-ringer, the
editor of CentrExNews.com contacted Svali and conducted
an extended 18-part interview with her by email, which
is reproduced on line and is copyrighted.
  [Project Camelot note: suite101.com and
centrexnews.com are no longer on the net. 13 of the 18
parts of Springer's interview are reproduced here.]
  "I am convinced she is the real McCoy," Spr-nger
wrote to me. "I have personally relayed numerous email
messages to her from other members -- ritually abused,
brainwashed, r-ped, se-ually abused people & you name
it -- some of them confirming to me her story. So I
have absolutely no doubt that Svali has been part of
the Illum-nati since childhood."
  I also trust Svali's testimony because it confirms my
intuition and intensive research. Everything fits: from
the d-ad hand that seems to suppress humanity to why
C-inton gave se-ret technology to the Chinese, to
persistent re****ts of c-ncentration camps in the US. It
explains why people I know behave in a co-spiratorial
way. I thank Svali for giving me a frightening but
incredible key to understanding the world.
  A friend urged me to beware of a hoax and offered to
help confirm Svali's personal story. I accepted. I
invite you to read her entire testimony and make up
your own mind. Read "Part 1" to "Part 18" first,
starting at the middle of the list and working up.
  With their permission, here are some highlights of
Svali's correspondence with CentrExnews.com's H.J.
Spr-nger. I have also included material from her
article Are the Illumi-ati Taking Over the W-rld?
  Pervasive Presence
  Svali: "The Illumin-ti are present in every major
metropolitan center in the Un-ted States. The
Illumina-i believe in controlling an area through its:
banks and financial institutions (guess how many sit on
banking boards? You'd be surprised) Local gov-rnment:
guess how many get elected to local city councils? Law:
children are encouraged to go to law school and medical
school. Media: others are encouraged to go to
journalism school, and members help fund local papers.
  Beliefs
  Svali:
  "The Ill-minati is a group that practices a form of
faith known as "enlightenment". It is Lu-iferian, and
they teach their followers that their roots go back to
the ancient mystery re-igions of Babylon, Egypt, and
Celtic druidism. They have taken what they consider the
"best" of each, the foundational practices, and joined
them together into a strongly o-cult discipline. Many
groups at the local level wor****p ancient deities such
as "El", "Baal", and "Ashtarte", as well as "Isis and
Osiris" (JW  I have a great repect for Isis and Osiris.
IMHO, they tried to make this world a better place.)
and "Set".... I do know that these people teach and
practice e-il."
  We-shaupt
  Svali: "Weis-aupt did not create the Ill-minati, they
chose him as a figurehead and told him what to write
about. The financiers, dating back to the bankers
during the times of the Templar Knights who financed
the early kings in Europe, created the Illum-nati.
Weish-upt was their "go fer", who did their bidding."
  Mi-itary Takeover
  Svali:
  "Briefly, each region of the Un-ted States has
"nerve centers" or power bases for regional activity.
The Uni-ed States has been divided up into seven major
geographical regions. Each region has localities within
it that contain mili-ary compounds and bases that are
hidden in remote, isolated areas or on large private
estates.

Part 1.

John Winston.  johnfw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Why Things Are Like They Are.         Part 2.
May 5, 2008.

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  These bases are used intermittently to teach and
train generational I-luminati in m-litary techniques,
hand- to- hand combat, crowd control, use of arms, and
all aspects of mi-itary w-rfare. Why? Because the
Il-uminists believe that our g-vernment, as we know it,
as well as the go-ernments of most nations around the
world, are destined to collapse. These will be planned
collapses, and they will occur in the following ways:
  The Ill-minati has planned first for a financial
collapse that will make the great depression look like
a picnic. This will occur through the manoeuvring of
the great banks and financial institutions of the
world, through stock manipulation, and interest rate
changes. Most people will be indebted to the f-deral
go-ernment through bank and credit card debt, etc. The
gove-nments will recall all debts immediately, but most
people will be unable to pay and will be bankrupted.
This will cause generalized financial panic, which will
occur simultaneously worldwide, as the Illu-inists
firmly believe in controlling people through finances.
  Doesn't sound pleasant, does it? I don't know the
exact time frame for all of this, and wouldn't want to
even guess. The good news is that if a person is
debt-free, owes nothing to the gover-ment or credit
debt, and can live self sufficiently, they may do
better than others. I would invest in gold, not stocks,
if I had the income. Gold will once again be the world
standard, and dollars will be pretty useless (remember
after the Civil W-r? Our money will be worth about what
confederate money was after the collapse).
  Next there will be a mil-tary takeover, region by
region, as the govern-ent declares a state of emergency
and ma-tial law. People will have panicked, there will
be an anarchical state in most localities, and the
governm-nt will justify its move as being necessary to
control panicked citizens. The cult trained military
leaders and people under their direction will use arms
as well as crowd control techniques to implement this
new state of affairs. ...
  Mil-tary bases will be set up, in each locality
(actually, they are already here, but are covert).
  In the next few years, they will go above ground and
be revealed. Each locality will have regional bases and
leaders to which they are accountable.
  The hierarchy will closely reflect the current covert
hierarchy.
                    Leader****p
  Svali:
  "The national council [consists of] influential
bankers with OLD money such as: The R-ckefellers, the
M-llon family, the C-rnegie family, the R-thschild
family etc. I know I shouldn't name names, but I will.
  The "Supreme W-rld Council" is already set up as a
prototype of the one that will rule when the N-O comes
into being. It meets on a regular basis to discuss
finances, direction, policy, etc. and to problem-solve
difficulties that come up. Once again, these leaders
are heads in the financial world, OLD banking money.
The Ro-hschild family in England, and in France, have
ruling seats. A descendant of the H-psburg dynasty has
a generational seat. A descendant of the ruling
families of England and France have a generational
seat. The Ro-kefeller family in the US holds a seat.
This is one reason that the Illu-inati have been pretty
"untouchable" over the years. The ruling members are
very, very, very wealthy and powerful. I hope this
information is helpful. How do I know this? I was on a
local leader****p council (a head trainer), but I talked
to those on regional. Also, every Illum-nati child is
taught who their "leaders" are, and told to take an
oath of allegiance to them and the "New O-der to
come"."
                    Royalty
 Svali: "The Illumi-ati leader****p state that they are
descended from royal bloodlines, as well as unbroken
occult heritage.
  See, there were two definitions of "royalty" used.
Open royalty that is currently seen now, and "hidden
royalty" of royal lineage and extreme o-cult power.
Sometimes the two were concurrent, such as with the
P-ince of Wales.
  I never thought of which country/line held the most
power, since I was just a peon busily doing my job. But
my understanding was: The H-noverian / H-psburg
descendants rule in Germany over the B-uderheist. They
are considered one of the strongest lines for oc-ult as
well. The British line is just under them, with the
royal family. Definitely, they rule the UK branch under
the Rot-schilds in the occ-lt realm, even though
parliament rules the country openly.
  In France, again, descendants of the royal families
are also in power in the occu-t realm, but the French
Roths-hilds hold the reigns over all of them."
               Rank of the US
 Svali: "The U.S. is considered lower, and younger,
than the European branches. ...Germany, France, and the
UK form a triumvirate that rules in the European cult.
The USSR is considered im****tant, and has the strongest
mili-ary groups.
  The USSR has been promised fourth position in the New
Wor-d Order, BEFORE the role the U.S. would have,
because the USSR has been more helpful and cooperative
over the years with furthering the agenda.
  The descendants of the former ruling families there
are also involved in the occul- leader****p, along with
the newer ones. There is no M-rxism in the cult. China
will be ranked after the USSR, then the U.S. But a lot
of the current U.S. leader****p will be in Europe when
the change occurs, and many have homes there. They will
be "changing nationalities" overnight, as it were. This
is the little that I do remember. Wish I had been a
better student of this stuff, but I was too busy trying
to stay alive when I was in it.
  Russia will be the mil-tary base and powerhouse of
the group, since their mili-ary commanders (Illuminist)
are considered the best in the world, and very, very
disciplined. China, because of its roots in oriental
occu-tism, and its large population, will also be
considered a higher power than the US. But again, the
real power will reside in Europe, according to what I
was taught when part of the group.
              The U-ited Nations
 Svali: "The UN was created early in this century in
order to help overcome one of the biggest barriers to a
one-wo-ld gov-rnment ...That barrier is the one of
nationalism, or pride in one's country. This is why it
was NOT a popular concept when first introduced, it
took years of country ba****ng in the media and the
destruction of any sense of national pride by a (not so
subtle) media campaign over the years.
  The UN is a preparation, but it is not the real power
in the world, and will be relatively unim****tant when
the NW- comes into being. The real councils will then
step forward. But as a means of getting the general
public to accept the idea of a "global community" and
the "one wo-ld community" the UN is a stepping stone in
their working towards the -WO."
                      Israel
 Svali: "The conflict in the Middle East is only to the
advantage of the Illumin-sts. They HATE Israel, and
hope one day to see it destroyed, and are biding their
time. One of the olive branches offered by the UN when
it takes over is that they will prevent wa- in the
Middle East, and this will be greeted with joy by many.
  At the same time, the I-luminati covertly supply g-ns
and funds to BOTH sides to keep the conflict fuelled.
They are very duplicitous people. They used to funnel
gu-s through the USSR to Palestine, for example, in the
name of promoting "friendliness" between the USSR and
this state and other Arab nations. Then, the US
Ill-minists would help funnel -uns to Israel, for the
same reason.
  These people love the game of chess, and see w-rfare
between nations as creating an order out of chaos. The
USSR is going to get stronger again. It has too strong
a mili-ary both openly, and covertly (ALL Ill-minati
mil-tary trainers have visited Russia to learn from
them) to sit quietly and quiesciently to the side. In
the -WO, they will be stronger than us."
      Is the Illumi-ati a J-wish conspiracy?
  Svali:
  "Absolutely not. In fact, Hitler and his people
(especially Himmler and Goebbels) were top Illu-inists.
The Illumi-ati are r-cist in the extreme, and as a
child, I was forced to play "c-ncentration camp" both
on my farm in Virginia, and also in Europe in isolated
camps in Germany.
  The Je-s historically fought against the occ-lt (see
D-uteronomy and the Old Testament for how G-d through
the Je-ish people tried to cleanse the land of the
occ-lt groups that were operating there, such as those
who wor****pped Baal, Ashtarte, and other Canaanite and
Babylonian go-s.
  [from an email to Henry M-kow]
  Yes, there are some very powerful -ewish people in
this group. For instance, the Rot-schild family
literally runs the financial empire in Europe (and
indirectly the S-ates), and are a well-known J-wish
family. I have also known people whose parents were
Je-ish diamond merchants in the group, and at every
level. But to rise to power in the Ill-minati, a -ewish
person at night would be forced to renounce their
faith, and to give their first allegiance to L-cifer
and the beliefs of the Illu-inati. In return for this
betrayal, they believe that power (financial) and
rewards come; and in one sense they do, but at too high
a price (losing their eternal s-ul).

Part 2.

John Winston.  johfw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Why Things Are Like They Are.    Part 3 of 3.
May 7, 2008.

   Here a few more reasons we are in the condition we
are on this Earth.

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  The Nazi/c-ncentration camp mentality is very strong,
though, and I was told that Hitler, Himmler, Goebbels,
and others were high-ranking German members of the
group (Himmler was higher than the other two), and
Mengele their paid puppet as well, who later worked as
a high trainer of the A-erican branch between his
periods of hiding in South America. They honestly
believed that they were acting as agents of their
'g-ds' to exterminate the J-wish r-ce, and I am so, so
sorry that this group has enacted so many horrors on
the earth (and so, so glad that I left it).
  I hope this helps you. I have always wondered this,
though, why some of the highest ranking financial
families in the group (baron R-thschild of France is
one of the 13 European l-rds, or "kings" that run the
group in Europe, and sits on the W-rld Council) are
Je-ish, yet the group espouses hatred of their own
ra-e."
  Are they r-cist?
  Svali:
  "Lots of Ill-minists have Fourth Reich programming
inside. The Il-uminati are rac-st, and have a very
"A-yan" outlook. They believe strongly in the rule of
the "pure" and "intelligent" by their definitions, and
in their ceremonies, there will occasionally be
minorities k-lled in ceremonies.
  They are trying to breed a "genetically superior"
ra-e to rule, with their children and descendants. They
are also followers of Plato's Republic, and believe
that they will be the ones to usher in this "Utopian"
rule with the N-O in their opinion. In their Utopia,
the intelligentsia will rule, and the sheep like m*****
will follow their leaders (that is their view of the
world; that the o-cult leaders are "enlightened' and
intelligent, while the average person is a "sheep" to
be led by the nose)."
                F-eemasonry
 Svali:
  "The Fr-emasons and the Ill-minati are hand in glove.
I don't care if this steps on any toes, it's a fact.
The Ma-onic temple at Alexandria, Virginia (the city
itself was named after Alexandria, Egypt, and is a
hotbed of Illum-nati activity) is a center in the
Wa****ngton, DC area for Illumin-ti scholar****p and
teaching. I was taken there at intervals for testing,
to step up a level, for scholar****p, and high
ceremonies. The leaders in this Mas-nic group were also
Illum-nists.
  This has been true of every large city I have lived
in. The top Fre-masons were also top Illumin-sts. My
maternal grandparents were both high ranking Mas-ns in
the city of Pittsburgh, Pa. (p-esident of the Eastern
Star and 33rd degree M-son) and they both were also
leaders in the Illuminat- in that area.
  Are all Ma-ons Ill-minati? No, especially at the
lower levels, I believe they know nothing of the
practices that occur in the middle of the night in the
larger temples. Many are probably fine businessmen and
C-ristians. But I have never known a 32 degree or above
who wasn't Illumi-ati, and the group helped create
Free-asonry as a "front" for their activities."
  C-A, F-I are all infiltrated. So are M-rmons, etc.
  More-
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Part 3 of 3.

John Winston.  johnfw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Ancient Tablets Found In Latvia.  May 7, 2008.

  Here is something right down my alley because I work
as a volunteer in a museum.

........................................................
........................................................

  THE DISCOVERY OF THE AINO TABLETS.
  In 1922 on a Latvian farmstead south of the town of
Liepaja, a remarkable discovery was made by a local
farmhand. While plowing a field, Istvan Kogalniceanu
discovered several flat stones under the dirt and he
dug them up. What he discovered were 207 stone tablets
upon which were carved strange characters which he
could not read. The stones all appeared to have been
cut from one larger rock. Kogalniceanu carted the
tablets into a storage shed where they were eventually
forgotten. A few years later, the owner of the farm,
Stig Viksne, used the stones for a fence along the
perimeter of his property. Word of the tablets
eventually made it to Riga and the newly renamed
University of Latvia (formerly the Latvian Higher
Education School).
  Around 1927 or 1928, the tablets were ****pped to the
university where undergraduates transcribed all of
the runes on the stones and began the arduous task at
deciphering them. The runes were similar in fa****on to
Norse runes, but it was determined that the language
that the tablets were written in was not related. Few
breakthroughs were made at deciphering the stones, and
Viksne eventually retrieved the tablets before the
stones were to be ****pped to Moscow.
  Viksne's stones gained some interest locally and he
displayed them at a fair in neighboring Estonia in 1932
(conflicting accounts place the fair at Sauga or
Parnu-Jaagupi, both near the city of Parnu). Viksne
died in 1934 and the stones were soon forgotten,
sitting crated in the storage shed on his farm.
  The farm changed hands and its new owner, Agris
Mickus, soon discovered the stones in the shed. Despite
the fact that Latvian farmers were enamored by Karlis
Ulmanis and his new totalitarian regime, Mickus decided
to immigrate to the United States. He became a U.S.
citizen in 1940 just weeks before Soviet occupation of
Latvia on June 17, 1940. Unfortunately Mickus had not
placed much im****tance on the crates of tablets in the
farm shed, and he did not have them ****pped to the U.S.
  After World War II broke out, the tablets once again
served the purpose for a stone wall on the farm. Little
information has been found about what transpired on the
farmstead between 1940 and 1951, but Agris Mickus, who
had spoken of the stones to associates in the U.S.
decided to try to reclaim the tablets. He was
unsuccessful as the shed had been razed and the stones
were missing; however, Mickus was able to retrieve the
written transcriptions of the stones that had been made
in the late 20s at the University of Latvia.
http://www.aino.freeservers.com
  Mickus, who had no training in translating languages,
had no more success than the students of the University
of Latvia had at deciphering the runes. Eventually he
forgot about the stones and the transcripts.
  Agris Mickus died 1952 at age 73 on his farm in
central Missouri.
  The same month, the stones in Latvia had been
recovered. Once again they had found themselves as part
of a stone wall separating fields on the farm. The
tablets were boxed up and ****pped to the U.S. and put
in storage with the rest of Mickus's belongings. Having
no children or heirs, the tablets sat in storage in
Columbia, Missouri for almost half a century.
  Latvian farmstead near where the tablets were
unearthed
  NEW DISCOVERY OF AN ANCIENT CULTURE IN EUROPE?
  In August of 1998, the estate of Mickus was sold to
the general public, and a Thomas A. Lack purchased all
of the Latvian tablets. The transcript of the stone's
runes, however, had found their way into the possession
of a former neighbor of Mickus. Tracking down the
stones and the transcript was a student of archaeology,
Alan Trupnow, who had heard about the stones during an
expedition in Estonia. Trupnow attempted to view the
tablets that now were owned by Lack, but the young
college student was turned away. Trupnow bought the
transcript from Mickus's neighbor for twenty dollars
and a cheap watch.
  Trupnow, although an avid language buff, was not
formally trained in translating or deciphering.
However, by early the next year, Trupnow had
singlehandedly deciphered the entire alphabet of runes
from the tablets, and had made considerable progress
translating the text.
  Once the translation of the first two tablets was
complete in February of 2000, Trupnow once again sought
out Mr. Lack in hopes of examining the stones. For
after Trupnow saw what the tablets meant, he was
determined to prove that they were a hoax. Lack was not
to be found, nor the stones, and Trupnow failed to
relocate the man who had purchased the tablets.
  Trupnow decided that if the tablets were authentic,
he had stumbled upon perhaps one of the greatest
archeological discoveries of Europe. If it was a hoax,
he was still intrigued at its purpose. Why would
anybody painstakingly carve 207 tablets in an unknown
alphabet and language describing a diverse mythology of
an up-to-now unheard of culture in northern Europe?
  This site is in no way affiliated with the University
of Missouri.
  The Aino site is owned and maintained by Kendal
Selle.

  (JW  That's all I know about this subject so far.
I will continue to check this information out.)

John Winston.   johnfw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 How To Get Rid Of Kidney Stones.
April 28, 2008.

  Subject: Parsley Tea For Urinary Tract Infections
And Kidney Stones

  (JW Drink Parsley Tea with a little honey to sweeten
it or buy some fresh parsley in the grocery store and
eat about one stalk of it three times a day to disolve
Kidney Stones.
  Here are two other methods of getting rid of gall or
kidney stones.)

................

  First Method.

     First Day
  8:00 AM 8 oz. water, 8 oz. of apple juice.
  9:00 AM 8 oz. water.
  10:00 AM water, juice
  11:00 AM water
  12:00 AM water, juice
  1:00 PM water
  2:00 water, juice
  3    water
  4    water, juice
  5    water
  6    water, juice
  7    water
  8    water, juice

  Second Morning

  8 oz apple juice
  9  "  "      "
  10 "  "      "
  11 "  "      "
  12 "  "      "  - 4 oz. lemon juice.
  1 -  4 oz. olive oil - 4 oz. lemon juice.
  Drink it right down if you can.  I usually eat a
craker right after.
  * Can repeat process in 1 month, or 3 months or
whenever desired or needed.

..............

  Third method.

  Many people have spoken to have gall stones, (JW
Also possible kidney stones.) on top of their other
problems.  Here is what a top American nutrtionist told
me to do about this, simple and easily without surgery.
  My whole family have done this successfully.
  Drink a quart of apple juce daily for five days, This
will soften up the stones to such an extent that you
can squash them in your fingers.
  On the sixth day, skip dinner and at 6 p.m take a
tablespoon full of epsom salts with water.  Repeat at
8 p.m.   At 10 p.m. make a cocktail of four ounces of
olive oil and four ounces of fresh squeezed lemon
juice.  shake vigorously and drink right down.  In the
morning yhou will pass green stones varing from the
size of grains of sand to some as large as your
thumbnail. You won't feel a thing, but will be amazed
at the results. Thousands have done this instead major
of major surgery.

  In closing I would like to say that my heart goes out
to you . I don't know you but I know what you are going
through. Thousands are going through the same
experience.

John Winston.  johnfw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Fourth Way To Get Rid Of Kidney Stones.
April 28, 2008.

  I'll probably offend some of my friend in reposting
this information.  I know Coke contains 6 of more
teaspoonfulls of sugar and will raise your sugar level
but this is from a friend who I trust.  It may still
be a hoax but I've never tested it personally.

.......................................................
.......................................................

  Hello John,

  The fastest way to get rid of kidney stones
is to drink a 6 pack of Coke Classic in 20
minutes - or as much as you can to fill your
bladder.
  Kidney stones are uric acid based.  Coke
is very acidic - and acid dissolves acid.  I
helped a buddy in extreme pain - could
barely u-inate for 3 days.  It quickly
knocked the painful shards off and the stones
passed within a few hours.   He was ur-nating
in about a half hour.  My friend did not know
exactly when they passed because they
dissolved so completely he did not feel them
pass.  I learned this about 10 years ago from
a chiropractor and naturopath - 2 different
persons.  Coke is one of the many causes of
kidney stones, but in an emergency, serves in a
medicinal capacity.

E-

John Winston.  johnfw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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"John Winston"   2008-05-09 07:10:03 

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