On May 12, 8:23=A0pm, Greg Procter <proc...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> veritas wrote:
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> > On May 11, 8:16 pm, Greg Procter <proc...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > veritas wrote:
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> > > > On May 11, 4:25 pm, Greg Procter <proc...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > > > veritas wrote:
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> > > > > > On May 6, 1:40 pm, Reggie <Reggie...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > > > > > Latest News-at-a-Glance =A0- Courtesy of
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> > > > > > > John Bolton: US should bomb Iranian camps
> > > > > > > Tuesday, 06 May 2008 14:25
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> > > > > > > Mr Bolton said that striking Iran would represent a major
step=
towards
> > > > > > > victory in Iraq. While he acknowledged that the risk of a
host=
ile
> > > > > > > Iranian response harming American=92s overseas interests
exist=
ed, he said
> > > > > > > the damage inflicted by Tehran would be =93far higher=94 if
Wa=
****ngton took
> > > > > > > no action.
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> > > > > > > =93This is a case where the use of military force against a
tr=
aining camp
> > > > > > > to show the Iranians we=92re not going to tolerate this is
rea=
lly the most
> > > > > > > prudent thing to do,=94 he said. =93Then the ball would be
in =
Iran=92s court
> > > > > > > to draw the appropriate lesson to stop harming our
troops.=94
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> > > > > > > More...
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> > > > > > > Inquiry: Hospitals couldn't handle terror attack
> > > > > > > Tuesday, 06 May 2008 13:29
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> > > > > > > WA****NGTON =97 Hospital trauma centers in seven major cities
d=
o not have
> > > > > > > the capacity to handle even a modest terrorist attack,
accordi=
ng to
> > > > > > > findings released Monday from a House committee
investigation.=
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> > > > > > > Lawmakers looked into hospitals' ability to deal with a
sudden=
influx of
> > > > > > > victims in the five cities considered at highest risk for
terr=
orist
> > > > > > > attack and in the two cities hosting this summer's political
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> > > > > > > House panel subpoenas top Cheney aide
> > > > > > > Tuesday, 06 May 2008 13:19
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> > > > > > > WA****NGTON (AP) =97 The House Judiciary Committee voted
Tuesda=
y to compel
> > > > > > > a top aide to Vice President Dick Cheney to testify to the
com=
mittee
> > > > > > > about the Bush administration's interrogation practices.
>
> > > > > > > David Addington, Cheney's chief of staff, refused to testify
w=
ithout a
> > > > > > > subpoena. No date has been set for his appearance before
Congr=
ess.
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> > > > > > > Addington is one of several lawyers believed to have played
a =
key role
> > > > > > > in crafting the administration's interrogation policies
shortl=
y after
> > > > > > > the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, policies which some say
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> > > > > > > Guant=E1namo Briton sues UK over 'torture evidence'
> > > > > > > Tuesday, 06 May 2008 12:49
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> > > > > > > The last British resident left in Guant=E1namo Bay is suing
th=
e UK
> > > > > > > government for refusing to produce evidence that he was a
vict=
im of
> > > > > > > extraordinary rendition and torture.
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> > > > > > > Binyam Mohamed faces a US military commission which could
sent=
ence him
> > > > > > > to death, and his lawyers say proving that the case against
hi=
m is based
> > > > > > > exclusively on evidence extracted by torture, following his
re=
ndition by
> > > > > > > the CIA, is vital to his defence.
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> > > > > > > Today, they lodged papers at the high court in London,
seeking=
a
> > > > > > > judicial review to force the Foreign Office to release
informa=
tion on
> > > > > > > his movements.
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> > > > > > > Fuelling the world food crisis
> > > > > > > Tuesday, 06 May 2008 12:39
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> > > > > > > Yesterday=92s Wa****ngton Post front-page lead story summed
up =
in seven
> > > > > > > words what=92s going on: "Siphoning Off Corn to Fuel Our
Cars.=
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> > > > > > > Yes, cars on American roads will burn up close to one-third
of=
the
> > > > > > > enormous corn crop American farmers will grow this year. But
b=
ecause the
> > > > > > > United States is the world=92s biggest producer of corn, an
es=
sential
> > > > > > > staple, this massive diversion from the food bowl to the
fuel =
tank
> > > > > > > threatens to wreak increasing havoc from here to Timbuktu.
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> > > > > > Well, then Timbuktu will have to pay more for the corn than
the =
fuel
> > > > > > people. =A0Ecomomics
> > > > > > at work. =A0Then maybe oil will go down under a
$100.00/barrel. =
=A0They
> > > > > > can't eat oil. =A0Well,
> > > > > > maybe they can in Timbuktu, but not the middle east. =A0 Ken
Hog=
an
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> > > > > If "economics" in the sense of "free enterprise economoics" made
s=
ense,
> > > > > oil would be $300- per barrel and rising.
>
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Greg.P.- Hide quoted text -
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> > > > Economics of "free enterprise economics" is all that works. =A0As
fo=
r
> > > > $300 a barrel of oil.
> > > > So what? =A0It costs us a 1/4 of one cent to print a dollar bill.
> > > > Figure out the math. =A0We
> > > > get a barrel of oil and they get .75/cents of paper. =A0Meanwhile
ou=
r
> > > > ex****ts are going full blast and we bought the barrel of oil for
.75=
> > > > cents. =A0So, let it raise. =A0If they don't want to sell it
anymore=
, they
> > > > are on their own. =A0Let them eat the oil. =A0Or we just come take
i=
t.
> > > > Either way, we get the oil and to our advantage.
>
> > > > --
> > > > Ken Hogan
>
> > > Hi Ken,
>
> > > it doesn't work that way - if you print more money your economy
remain=
s
> > > the same value so the value of the US dollar drops. (that has a
famili=
ar
> > > ring to it)
> > > You get one ****pment of oil and then you pay in Euros thereafter.
You
> > > produce bugger-all that the world wants so you have no Euros.
> > > The price of oil goes up until demand begins to droop. The oil
produci=
ng
> > > countries have finally realized that their resources are worth more
th=
an
> > > the US wants to pay and that it doesn't matter how much they charge
> > > because we will pay it.
> > > Your invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq has shown your military threat
i=
s
> > > next to toothless.
>
> > > Regards,
> > > Greg.P.- Hide quoted text -
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> > There are not enough Euros in the world to take care of all the
> > economic transactions tht go on every day.
>
> AFAIK the number of US$ and Euros are close to equal.
>
> > The Euros would have run-
> > away inflation if they printed or stamped all that money. =A0
>
> Certainly - exactly the same as if you printed excess US dollars.
>
> > There are a
> > lot of bodies in Afghanistan, and Iraq buried in the sand with no
> > teeth marks I guess.
>
> sure - we don't hold either the US or it's former ally Saddam Hussein in
> any high regard.
>
> > not many are ours.
>
> Not enough - I just wish you would get what you deserve. (well, not
> really, that would be an awful lot of innocent yanks slaughtered!
>
> > Just remember, we didn't use
> > all we had, we used what we felt was necessary.
>
> You've used more than you've got, that's why your currency is taking
> it's current decline.
>
> > If we were like the
> > muslims, they all would be under the sand if we chose.
>
> The only difference between you and "the Muslims" =A0is that they
> generally want peace - you want to continue to steal their resources.
>
> > We chose not
> > to. =A0We wouldn't even break a sweat. =A0That's called winning hearts
a=
nd
> > minds, wait until we don't give a damn about winning hearts and minds,
> > then we just take them all. =A0
>
> If you did that you would be the pariah of the planet - trade would end
> with you and you'd be isolatedand on a par with Myanmar.
>
> > So don't get to mouthy, we aren't done
> > yet. =A0We don't have 4 carrier groups in the Indian Ocean for the
fine
> > weather.
>
> LOL, =A0you can't even subdue minor countries of peasants in black
pajamas=
> carrying bamboo sticks, let alone two stoneage ME nations, how do you
> imagine you'd subdue the entire Muslim world?
>
>
>
>
>
> > Regards.
> > Ken Hogan- Hide quoted text -
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Ah, now you get into politics, that is a different story. We don't do
lots of things because of politics. We wouldn't bomb the dikes in
North Vietnam. It would have starved them, and Ho Chi Min hated the
Chinese more than us. They would have intervinded, and neither side
wanted anything to do with China. ( We probably would not have fought
there if we would have just put him in charge in the first place.)
Nor the harbor where the Russian ****ps were unloading supplies. We
couldn't even fire our guns unless fired upon. After 50,000 dead, the
President and McNamara knowing they lied to us all, the kids
(including myself) saying I'm not going over there, we aren't going to
win, and have no intention of winning. We are getting into different
conversations. The Lt.s and Capt.'s in Vietnam are Generals now, they
have been in that trap. We don't WANT the countries, we just want to
profit from them. If Iran doesn't play nice, we will take them out.
If Saddam had played nice, he could still be torturing his own people.
ENTIRE Muslim world? You act like they have a Pope or something.
They are the most scattered religion in the world except maybe the
Buddhists. Destroy Iran's capability and see how the Sunnis stand up
and applaud. The Saudis might even drop oil prices for us.
Regards,
Ken Hogan
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