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> > On May 12, 8:23 pm, Greg Procter <proc...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > veritas wrote:
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> > > > On May 11, 8:16 pm, Greg Procter <proc...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > veritas wrote:
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> > > > > > On May 11, 4:25 pm, Greg Procter <proc...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > > > veritas wrote:
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> > > > > > > > On May 6, 1:40 pm, Reggie <Reggie...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > > > > > Latest News-at-a-Glance =A0- Courtesy of
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http://tvnewslies.org/tvnl/index.php/latest-news-at-a-glance
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> > > > > > > > > John Bolton: US should bomb Iranian camps
> > > > > > > > > Tuesday, 06 May 2008 14:25
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> > > > > > > > > Mr Bolton said that striking Iran would represent a
major =
step towards
> > > > > > > > > victory in Iraq. While he acknowledged that the risk of
a =
hostile
> > > > > > > > > Iranian response harming American=92s overseas interests
e=
xisted, he said
> > > > > > > > > the damage inflicted by Tehran would be =93far higher=94
i=
f Wa****ngton took
> > > > > > > > > no action.
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> > > > > > > > > =93This is a case where the use of military force
against =
a training camp
> > > > > > > > > to show the Iranians we=92re not going to tolerate this
is=
really the most
> > > > > > > > > prudent thing to do,=94 he said. =93Then the ball would
be=
in Iran=92s court
> > > > > > > > > to draw the appropriate lesson to stop harming our
troops.=
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> > > > > > > > > More...
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> > > > > > > > > Inquiry: Hospitals couldn't handle terror attack
> > > > > > > > > Tuesday, 06 May 2008 13:29
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> > > > > > > > > WA****NGTON =97 Hospital trauma centers in seven major
citi=
es do not have
> > > > > > > > > the capacity to handle even a modest terrorist attack,
acc=
ording to
> > > > > > > > > findings released Monday from a House committee
investigat=
ion.
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> > > > > > > > > Lawmakers looked into hospitals' ability to deal with a
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dden influx of
> > > > > > > > > victims in the five cities considered at highest risk
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terrorist
> > > > > > > > > attack and in the two cities hosting this summer's
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> > > > > > > > > House panel subpoenas top Cheney aide
> > > > > > > > > Tuesday, 06 May 2008 13:19
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> > > > > > > > > WA****NGTON (AP) =97 The House Judiciary Committee voted
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esday to compel
> > > > > > > > > a top aide to Vice President Dick Cheney to testify to
the=
committee
> > > > > > > > > about the Bush administration's interrogation practices.
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> > > > > > > > > David Addington, Cheney's chief of staff, refused to
testi=
fy without a
> > > > > > > > > subpoena. No date has been set for his appearance before
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ongress.
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> > > > > > > > > Addington is one of several lawyers believed to have
playe=
d a key role
> > > > > > > > > in crafting the administration's interrogation policies
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ortly after
> > > > > > > > > the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, policies which some say
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> > > > > > > > > Guant=E1namo Briton sues UK over 'torture evidence'
> > > > > > > > > Tuesday, 06 May 2008 12:49
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> > > > > > > > > The last British resident left in Guant=E1namo Bay is
suin=
g the UK
> > > > > > > > > government for refusing to produce evidence that he was
a =
victim of
> > > > > > > > > extraordinary rendition and torture.
>
> > > > > > > > > Binyam Mohamed faces a US military commission which
could =
sentence him
> > > > > > > > > to death, and his lawyers say proving that the case
agains=
t him is based
> > > > > > > > > exclusively on evidence extracted by torture, following
hi=
s rendition by
> > > > > > > > > the CIA, is vital to his defence.
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> > > > > > > > > Today, they lodged papers at the high court in London,
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king a
> > > > > > > > > judicial review to force the Foreign Office to release
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ormation on
> > > > > > > > > his movements.
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> > > > > > > > > Fuelling the world food crisis
> > > > > > > > > Tuesday, 06 May 2008 12:39
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> > > > > > > > > Yesterday=92s Wa****ngton Post front-page lead story
summed=
up in seven
> > > > > > > > > words what=92s going on: "Siphoning Off Corn to Fuel Our
C=
ars."
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> > > > > > > > > Yes, cars on American roads will burn up close to
one-thir=
d of the
> > > > > > > > > enormous corn crop American farmers will grow this year.
B=
ut because the
> > > > > > > > > United States is the world=92s biggest producer of corn,
a=
n essential
> > > > > > > > > staple, this massive diversion from the food bowl to the
f=
uel tank
> > > > > > > > > threatens to wreak increasing havoc from here to
Timbuktu.=
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> > > > > > > > Well, then Timbuktu will have to pay more for the corn
than =
the fuel
> > > > > > > > people. =A0Ecomomics
> > > > > > > > at work. =A0Then maybe oil will go down under a
$100.00/barr=
el. =A0They
> > > > > > > > can't eat oil. =A0Well,
> > > > > > > > maybe they can in Timbuktu, but not the middle east. =A0
Ken=
Hogan
>
> > > > > > > If "economics" in the sense of "free enterprise economoics"
ma=
de sense,
> > > > > > > oil would be $300- per barrel and rising.
>
> > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > Greg.P.- Hide quoted text -
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> > > > > > > - Show quoted text -
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> > > > > > Economics of "free enterprise economics" is all that works.
=A0A=
s for
> > > > > > $300 a barrel of oil.
> > > > > > So what? =A0It costs us a 1/4 of one cent to print a dollar
bill=
..
> > > > > > Figure out the math. =A0We
> > > > > > get a barrel of oil and they get .75/cents of paper.
=A0Meanwhil=
e our
> > > > > > ex****ts are going full blast and we bought the barrel of oil
for=
.75
> > > > > > cents. =A0So, let it raise. =A0If they don't want to sell it
any=
more, they
> > > > > > are on their own. =A0Let them eat the oil. =A0Or we just come
ta=
ke it.
> > > > > > Either way, we get the oil and to our advantage.
>
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Ken Hogan
>
> > > > > Hi Ken,
>
> > > > > it doesn't work that way - if you print more money your economy
re=
mains
> > > > > the same value so the value of the US dollar drops. (that has a
fa=
miliar
> > > > > ring to it)
> > > > > You get one ****pment of oil and then you pay in Euros
thereafter. =
You
> > > > > produce bugger-all that the world wants so you have no Euros.
> > > > > The price of oil goes up until demand begins to droop. The oil
pro=
ducing
> > > > > countries have finally realized that their resources are worth
mor=
e than
> > > > > the US wants to pay and that it doesn't matter how much they
charg=
e
> > > > > because we will pay it.
> > > > > Your invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq has shown your military
thre=
at is
> > > > > next to toothless.
>
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Greg.P.- Hide quoted text -
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> > > > > - Show quoted text -
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> > > > There are not enough Euros in the world to take care of all the
> > > > economic transactions tht go on every day.
>
> > > AFAIK the number of US$ and Euros are close to equal.
>
> > > > The Euros would have run-
> > > > away inflation if they printed or stamped all that money.
>
> > > Certainly - exactly the same as if you printed excess US dollars.
>
> > > > There are a
> > > > lot of bodies in Afghanistan, and Iraq buried in the sand with no
> > > > teeth marks I guess.
>
> > > sure - we don't hold either the US or it's former ally Saddam
Hussein =
in
> > > any high regard.
>
> > > > not many are ours.
>
> > > Not enough - I just wish you would get what you deserve. (well, not
> > > really, that would be an awful lot of innocent yanks slaughtered!
>
> > > > Just remember, we didn't use
> > > > all we had, we used what we felt was necessary.
>
> > > You've used more than you've got, that's why your currency is taking
> > > it's current decline.
>
> > > > If we were like the
> > > > muslims, they all would be under the sand if we chose.
>
> > > The only difference between you and "the Muslims" =A0is that they
> > > generally want peace - you want to continue to steal their
resources.
>
> > > > We chose not
> > > > to. =A0We wouldn't even break a sweat. =A0That's called winning
hear=
ts and
> > > > minds, wait until we don't give a damn about winning hearts and
mind=
s,
> > > > then we just take them all.
>
> > > If you did that you would be the pariah of the planet - trade would
en=
d
> > > with you and you'd be isolatedand on a par with Myanmar.
>
> > > > So don't get to mouthy, we aren't done
> > > > yet. =A0We don't have 4 carrier groups in the Indian Ocean for the
f=
ine
> > > > weather.
>
> > > LOL, =A0you can't even subdue minor countries of peasants in black
paj=
amas
> > > carrying bamboo sticks, let alone two stoneage ME nations, how do
you
> > > imagine you'd subdue the entire Muslim world?
>
> > > > Regards.
> > > > Ken Hogan- Hide quoted text -
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> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
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> > > - Show quoted text -
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> > Ah, now you get into politics, that is a different story. =A0We don't
do=
> > lots of things because of politics.
>
> The world is about politics!
>
> > We wouldn't bomb the dikes in
> > North Vietnam. =A0It would have starved them,
>
> The Vietnam war was about politics - you were the bad guys backing a
> vicious dictator to keep a nation divided.
> What's not politics about that?
>
> > and Ho Chi Min hated the
> > Chinese more than us.
>
> Of course.
> Stupid US presidents could well have achieved whatever it was they
> wanted to achieve there just by co-operating with China.
>
> > They would have intervinded, and neither side
> > wanted anything to do with China. ( We probably would not have fought
> > there if we would have just put him in charge in the first place.)
> > Nor the harbor where the Russian ****ps were unloading supplies. =A0We
> > couldn't even fire our guns unless fired upon. =A0After 50,000 dead,
>
> Don't forget you murdered several million Vienamese people in your
> attempt to alienate the people of S.Asia.
> No-one but you will forget.
>
> > the
> > President and McNamara knowing they lied to us all, the kids
> > (including myself) saying I'm not going over there, we aren't going to
> > win, and have no intention of winning. =A0We are getting into
different
> > conversations. =A0The Lt.s and Capt.'s in Vietnam are Generals now,
they=
> > have been in that trap. =A0We don't WANT the countries, we just want
to
> > profit from them. =A0
>
> Sure, that involves the repression of the populations through installing
> corrupt forms of dictator****p or monarchy.
> See, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Iran, Iraq etc and now Afghanistan and Iraq
> again.
> You've lost all the respect of people around the World for the USA as a
> nation.
>
> > If Iran doesn't play nice, we will take them out.
>
> If you do that you will become the pariah nation of the world.
>
> > If Saddam had played nice, he could still be torturing his own people.
>
> You see why you've lost respect?
>
> > =A0 ENTIRE Muslim world? =A0You act like they have a Pope or
something.
> > They are the most scattered religion in the world except maybe the
> > Buddhists. =A0
>
> Sure, the Moslem religion is one of peace.
>
> > Destroy Iran's capability
>
> What Iran's capability"? Have you been listening to US propaganda again,
> like 1941 "Japanese will never make good pilots because they all have
> poor eyesight and poor balance" LOL.
>
> > and see how the Sunnis stand up
> > and applaud. =A0The Saudis might even drop oil prices for us.
>
> You forget that you've installed corrupt people in power in Saudi -
> corrupt people don't drop prices just because they like what you've
> done, they look for op****tunities to be even more corrupt.
First off, as any economics major or minor knows, the printing of to
many dollars to pay bills rather than raise taxes
is the cause of inflation. Not the other way around, inflation was
thought of as rising prices, that is the RESULT of the government
printing to much money. Inflation is caused by governments, not by
business, or people. Milton Friedman should have made that perfectly
clear in "Free to Chose".
As far as the respect of all of the nations, if we sat on our hands,
with our finger up our butt, we would be disliked by most of the
nations of the world. Our system creates wealth, and theirs do not
and they dislike us for it. We can do no right, whatever our
discision may be.
If a christian decides to become an atheist, or a muslim, or a
buddhist, nobody cares. If a muslim decides he or she does not want
to be a mulsim anymore, it is the duty and right of the other mulsims
to kill them. If a daughter disobeys her father or dishonors her
family, it is their right and duty to "Honor" kill her. If you do
business with anyone who is not a Muslim, you must make them pay
extra. You can do business with people who are not Muslim, but you
cannot be friends with them. You are not allowed to be anything but
Muslim in a Muslim country or face severe sanctions. Read the Koran,
it will spell it all out for you. If Muslims come to power, you will
become a Muslim or be beheaded. One of peace, that is a bunch of
crap.
It took us four years and a lot of lives to defeat the Japs, "never
underestimate your enemy". If Iran is dreaming of nuclear power, we
will turn it into a nightmare for them. They will never have it, no
matter the cost. That decision was made on both sides of the house
long ago. We will do what is neccessary to accomplish it.
Corrupt people know who to give into. The Sunnis will never let the
****ites mass murder the minority Sunnis in Iraq. They will do what we
want them to do, except watch the Sunnis be mass murdered in Iraq if
we pull out.
You just needed some economic and history lessons and stop watching
the B.S. on the tube.
Regards,
Ken Hogan
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