On Jul 24, 2:56=EF=BF=BDam, veritas <coming_s...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 07:44:19 +0200, Steve Hayes
>
> <hayesm...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >Karadzic's Arrest: Bosnian Myths Rehashed
>
> >by Srdja Trifkovic
>
> >July 22, 2008
>
> I find it amazing ( yet so predictable ) that the fools in Britain and
> in the other side of the Atlantic seek to tie the wars in Yugoslavia
> with something supposedly to =EF=BF=BDdo with Orthodoxy ( code for
Russia=
) .
>
> They(these rogue western protestant nations ) are so predicable and
> have been since 1204 !And to make matters =EF=BF=BDworse , many converts
=
to
> Orthodoxy from these nations seem to bring their prejudices with them.
>
> Get ready =EF=BF=BDfor lots of anti-Serb propaganda ...
>
> These traitors in the west are no better than the Muslim enemy
=EF=BF=BDw=
e are
> fighting . Both are sworn enemies of Christ and friends of Mammon.
>
> To hell with both of them..
>
> Peter
To hell with you and the fake Orthodox nationalist phyletists
among the Serbs.
Your own saint Velimirovich said that the main sin characterizing the
Serbs is PRIDE.
The fact is, that St. Paul in the Apostolic Deposit of Faith
warns that sedition is one of the acts of the flesh, and
people who follow the flesh are not inheriting the Kingdom
of Heaven.
I know you think you are Christ reincarnate because you
are technically in the church so part of Christ's body but
that doesn't mean your every lust and dream and folly is
a manifestation of Christ.
Rather, it is a manifestation of the old nature that you have
not crucified but rather confused with Christ.
The Bosnian Serbs decided to revolt without waiting for
provocation, when Bosnia went independent.
So they started the mess. And a testimony online about
the existence and plans and actions of the Black Hand
though republished by a Croatian source, is writting by
a BRITISH observer and a SERBIAN source elsewhere
described the unChristlike behavior of Serbs in WW I
and so forth.
Some of the main sources on Serbian atrocities are
Serbian doctors and other civilian, and a SERBIAN
woman warrior was fighting and leading raids out of
Srebrenica against the Serbs.
Your confusion of your nation with Christ is blasphemy
originated by a bishop in the Macedonian vicinity a few
centuries ago, who was bloodthirsty enough to be in
violation of some canons about bishops, if I recall right.
And his claiming Christ is a serb is blasphemy.
I am Orthodox and my priest says that to the extent one
is acting like these people were acting, one is not in fact
in Christ or being part of His mystical Body.
You people remind me of the pretensions of America as
Redeemer Nation and New Jerusalem, now more likely
to be found among some Mormons than Protestants thank
God.
Then Vuk the ****head well named wolf, a wolf in sheep's
clothing descended on the flock of Christ and undermined
the true faith, ****fting from wor****pping Christ as Christ to
wor****pping Serbia and Christ as means to Serbian identity
and lust and greed and ambition and sedition and violence
being made to appear virtuous by this, by moving Serbians
away from Slavonic back to their original language, so they
were more and more alienated from the services and could
learn less from going to Holy Liturgy and other services.
Finally your blindness is evident in your so called Compact
or Covenant that supposedly is shown in Lazar and is
about fighting and dying rather than live under tyranny blah
blah.
There is NOTHING like this in the hagiography and the
angelic visitation or the visit of the Theotokos to St. Prince
(NOT "tsar") Lazar. Nothing even remotely.
The Turks had already won ground, and at Kosovo St. Lazar
was given a choice by The Theotokos - a heavenly crown if
he agreed to loss, or an earthly crown if he was given victory,
BUT AT THE COST OF THE HEAVENLY CROWN WHICH
HE WOULD NOT HAVE.
As a captive he wondered if he should have made this
decision for his people without asking them, so obviously
he went to war NOT as a final act of bravery but rather a
cowardice, leading them into a loss he had AGREED to
rather than admitting to them that their fate was sealed, or
asking their opinion about this choice, which was, reign
on earth OR get to heaven, or at least have some rank in
heaven, BUT NOT BOTH.
The angel told him that the special saints of the Serbs
themselves were praying for the Turks to win, apparently
the Serbs had become so unworthy of bearing the Name
of Christ before the nations, that this embarassment was
to be shut down.
Now do you get it? Now go wail in a corner in shame and
confess as Daniel did "I and my fathers have sinned
against you O God," and repudiate your damnable friends
and nation and even your own lives like Christ said, live
for Him not yourselves.
Nationalism and Clan super loyalty is a kind of selfishness,
disguised as "spirituality" and often mislabelled spirituality
by fascists of all sorts. It gives a deceptive uplift and a
deceptive sense of being part of something greater than
yourself, but it is only the Greater Self, and extended self.
And consider that your Patriarch Pavle and the Moscow
Patriarch BOTH said that Serbs had sinned against
Bosnians and against Kosovars.
Justina
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