"stoney" <stoney@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> skrev i en meddelelse
news:o6b3a41h8q3hcsgejm1e150idqq402ptgo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 03:19:07 GMT, Douglas Berry
> <penguin_boy@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, Message ID:
> <nlsf84drq43rhs9qgnhdqo74745scpqqsv@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in alt.atheism;
>
>>On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:10:36 +0100 "Katt" <kahgfghttt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> carved
>>the following into the hard stone of alt.atheism
>>>Saw this somewhere and wondered if it's actually accurate...
>>>-----
>>>"Wa****ngton and its apologists continually insist that the US is 'not
an
>>>imperial power'. Yet of the 192 supposedly 'sovereign' states
recognised
>>>by
>>>the United Nations, no fewer than *133* have a US military presence --
>>>which, in each and every case, the population was not consulted about;
>>>did
>>>not vote for; and cannot choose to remove..."
>>
>>Define "military presence" Does this count USMC Embassy Guards? The US
>>Navy weather stations in Greenland? Two field grade officers and a
>>small staff posted to Outer Wayouttherestan to train locals on the
>>equipment their government has bought? How about US troops taking part
>>in UN or NATO missions? Troops get around, and some of these presences
>>are as simple as US troops attending training in a nation.
>>
>>Oh, a short list of nations having a military presence in the US:
>>
>>Germany.
>>Canada.
>>The United Kingdom.
>>Japan.
>>Saudi Arabia.
>>Jordan.
>>Egypt.
>>Republic of Korea.
>>
>>All these have a significant number of troops assigned inside the US
>>at any given time. Germany maintains an entire Luftwaffe squadron at
>>Holloman AFB for training
>
> George AFB in Victorville, CA., had a full Luftwaffe squadron for
> training until it closed. Americans did all the maintenance. Although
> I was in the other wing, I was asked to install an advanced comm system
> on their flightline and sit in on their TCTO {Time Compliance Technical
> Order {{system maintenance modification meetings}}
(piggybacking here)
One observation about the above. The US, just like any other nation, is
far from perfect, but there is no reason to make up claims such as: "no
fewer than *133* have a US military presence -- which, in each and every
case, the population was not consulted about; did
not vote for; and cannot choose to remove..." Almost all of the nations
he
mentioned are functioning democracies. The freely elected governments
have
the right to cancel agreements with the US.
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