On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:19:38 +0200, "thomas p." <gudloos@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
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>"stoney" <stoney@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> skrev i en meddelelse
>news:o6b3a41h8q3hcsgejm1e150idqq402ptgo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 03:19:07 GMT, Douglas Berry
>> <penguin_boy@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, Message ID:
>> <nlsf84drq43rhs9qgnhdqo74745scpqqsv@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in alt.atheism;
>>
>>>On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:10:36 +0100 "Katt" <kahgfghttt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> carved
>>>the following into the hard stone of alt.atheism
>>>>Saw this somewhere and wondered if it's actually accurate...
>>>>-----
>>>>"Wa****ngton and its apologists continually insist that the US is 'not
an
>>>>imperial power'. Yet of the 192 supposedly 'sovereign' states
recognised
>>>>by
>>>>the United Nations, no fewer than *133* have a US military presence --
>>>>which, in each and every case, the population was not consulted about;
>>>>did
>>>>not vote for; and cannot choose to remove..."
>>>
>>>Define "military presence" Does this count USMC Embassy Guards? The US
>>>Navy weather stations in Greenland? Two field grade officers and a
>>>small staff posted to Outer Wayouttherestan to train locals on the
>>>equipment their government has bought? How about US troops taking part
>>>in UN or NATO missions? Troops get around, and some of these presences
>>>are as simple as US troops attending training in a nation.
>>>
>>>Oh, a short list of nations having a military presence in the US:
>>>
>>>Germany.
>>>Canada.
>>>The United Kingdom.
>>>Japan.
>>>Saudi Arabia.
>>>Jordan.
>>>Egypt.
>>>Republic of Korea.
>>>
>>>All these have a significant number of troops assigned inside the US
>>>at any given time. Germany maintains an entire Luftwaffe squadron at
>>>Holloman AFB for training
>>
>> George AFB in Victorville, CA., had a full Luftwaffe squadron for
>> training until it closed. Americans did all the maintenance. Although
>> I was in the other wing, I was asked to install an advanced comm system
>> on their flightline and sit in on their TCTO {Time Compliance Technical
>> Order {{system maintenance modification meetings}}
>
>(piggybacking here)
>One observation about the above. The US, just like any other nation, is
>far from perfect, but there is no reason to make up claims such as: "no
>fewer than *133* have a US military presence -- which, in each and every
>case, the population was not consulted about; did
>not vote for; and cannot choose to remove..." Almost all of the nations
he
>mentioned are functioning democracies. The freely elected governments
have
>the right to cancel agreements with the US.
Since when do facts matter to blatherers?
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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